81-87 with 4/6 what brand/method?

[JB]

Post a shopping list of brands of 4/6 or 3/5 lowering kits with part numbers for me please (links would be fantastic). I need to buy one and want the best brand/method you would recomend. Dont forget about shocks too.

[CKTA]

DJM or Western Chasis.

No links.:tongue:

[cochino12]

check out this link

link (http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=84340)

[JB]

Originally posted by cochino12
check out this link

link (http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=84340)

Thanks, thats exactly what I needed :worship:

[kevhill85]

i use ground froce 3' in the front (springs) and 5 ' in back( flip kit ). i have no prblems with this kit yet . i bought it asll from www.summitracing.com

[Domeskilla]

McGaughys all the way www.mcgaughys.com

[JB]

Originally posted by kevhill85
i use ground froce 3' in the front (springs) and 5 ' in back( flip kit ). i have no prblems with this kit yet . i bought it asll from www.summitracing.com

When you say "flip kit", do you mean all you did was flip the springs to the underside of the axle? no hangers or shackles? Do you have to notch the frame for the flip?

yes Im a newbie to the lowered crowd :aniteef:

[grounded]

Yes you have to notch the frame with a flip kit....unless you like bottoming out.:D

[kevhill85]

on mine i did not use a c -notch. mine dose not bottom out . whenu look at the frame rail in the back it has a focy notch.

yes. i all u do is put the rear end on the top of your rear springs .

on the 81-87 don't need a c-notch with a flip kit .

[JB]

I thought you had to notch it :think:

Found this:

http://www.73-87.com/7387garage/chassis_suspension/csection/notch4.jpg

http://www.73-87.com/7387garage/chassis_suspension/csection/frame1.jpg

[cochino12]

you dont need to do a notch with just a flip. if you were to add hangers or something else a notch would be necessary. I also have a flip with no notch.

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/361000-361999/361139_21.jpg

[kevhill85]

not on r year . if u go more then the flip kit yes . i have 5 " before i hit my axle or rearend

[JB]

Gotcha :thumbup:

This is why its confusing, www.macsprings.com has the 3/5 and the flip kit comes with a c-notch, if its not needed why are they trying to sell me them in a kit?

http://www.macsspring.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MSOS&Product_Code=73C10-3-5

[kevhill85]

i guess so they can keep the price over 400.00 lol. that way to much for that . i have 200.00 in my whole set up . lol

[grounded]

Originally posted by 5-8CHEVY
I think it's more of a precaution than anything. Some springs and shocks are more worn out than others and may bottom out more. :read:
:word:

Guess if others are running without a notch you'll be alright.:think:

[JB]

Okay so how does this sound for 3" coils and a 5" rear flip with frt/rear shocks

http://www.macsspring.com



4809G Doetsch Tech Nitro Slammer Shock...........$96.00
4095G Doetsch Tech Nitro Slammer Shock...........$96.00
63C1030 Western Coils...................................$110.00
2104 Flip Kit............................................... ....$62.85
.................................................. ................$364.85


Now is this all I need?

Am I gonna need shims, u-bolts, anything else?

[kevhill85]

shipping is only 8.00 from summit . you'll save about 100.00 if u go to www.summitracing.com .. trying to help u save $$$$$ . this is where i got my stuff .your list above is all u need


ground force coil r 81.39 ---sum-g726
doetsch tech shock r 37.99 ---
flip kit it about 100.00

summit racing part number

[JB]

I went to summit and it came to $377.64, however that was with the deluxe flip kit which includes u-bolts DJM-FK-1024-LTD $150.69

I dont know if the western chassis kit comes with u-bolts and stuff :(

Summit is $12ea cheaper on shocks :head:

Are the GF springs good? better or same as DJM or Western?

[kevhill85]

i had DJM frist on my truck . then i put on the gf and had no problems . in my op they r the same . there was no change in the handling or ride . i even drove them both with out shock to see if there any thing that stand out . it still rode like i had shock on it . hope this helps . the only thing that was defferant was the price . lol

if this help . ijust bought the spring and block from gf for my s-10 blazer . i like how they did on my truck .

[JB]

Kevin you help me alot, I really appreciate it man :head:

Next thing you can help me on is building a badazz gauge system like you have :D

[JB]

Originally posted by 5-8CHEVY
If you get DJM get the deluxe kit, modding the stock plates is a major pain in the azz.

sounds like good advice, I think I will spend the xtra $$ and get the complete deluxe kit.

Is the flip an okay way to lower, are the hangers/shackles or any other method more preferred?

same question about the front, I see complete 4/6 or 3/5 kits but none are just coils and flips...whats the deal?

[00blackz71]

Anybody know where I can see some close up pictures of the grille in TexK5's sig? I have that grille but haven't installed it yet.

[TIMSPEED]

Originally posted by 5-8CHEVY
It is, we modded k's stockers and it would have been more than worth it to get the new ones plus they look better with the rest of the kit. :read:
What plate are we talking about modding??

[JB]

Maybe its the u-bolt spring plate :dunno:

Reg DJM Flip
FK-1024-5

http://www.djmsuspension.com/Images/Products/FlipKits/FK1024-5.jpg

Deluxe DJM Flip
FK-1024 LTD

http://www.djmsuspension.com/Images/Products/FlipKits/FK1024-LTD.jpg

You guys that did this on a swb, did you need any shims? I know every truck is different but what size shims should I order? I want to have everything I need to complete this.

[TIMSPEED]

Originally posted by 5-8CHEVY
Correct, the stock ubolt plate is a pain to mod. Hell you can make the flip too from some square tube but most don’t have the tools/time. :read:

Kendall did a 5/7 on his and didn’t need a shim. :read:
Why would I have to mod the spring plate? Mine worked just fine...


Originally posted by 5-8CHEVY
Correct, the stock ubolt plate is a pain to mod. Hell you can make the flip too from some square tube but most don’t have the tools/time. :read:

Kendall did a 5/7 on his and didn’t need a shim. :read:
Why would I have to mod the spring plate? Mine worked just fine...

[TIMSPEED]

Originally posted by 5-8CHEVY
You're supposed to drill a hole in the center of the stock spring plate so the leaf pin can stay in the spring plate similiar to the deluxe kit. :read:

http://www.djmsuspension.com/Instructions/Flip/FK1024-5.pdf
Hmm..There was a "pin" in my spring pack, but the Flip Bracket has a hole in it, that the "pin" goes in to, so it gets the pinion angle correct. If that's not what you're meaning, I can't figure out what you are...:think:

[TIMSPEED]

What other "pin" are we talking about...

[JB]

Hes talking about a hole in the bottom plate which used to be the top plate. Since the pin end and nut are now on the bottom and off center, they suggest making a new hole so it doesnt interfere. I bet thats why your u-bolts arent staight/vertical. :dunno:

[TIMSPEED]

Originally posted by 5-8CHEVY
Reverse the leaf spring center bolt so the nut is on the bottom.

Lower rear axle so the ne axle support fits up inside the existing rear axle pad welded to the axle. Mark and drill a hole in the factory spring plate for the spring center pin. This hole is offset just like the flip bracket.

You’re supposed to drill an offset hole on the stock spring plate to align the rearend. There is a pin on the bottom of the leaf and the bolt is on the top. :read:
Hmm..mine's been holding up perectly fine for a year like it is...so...:D

[83importkiller]

djm is the best..don;t go cheap you will regret it later

[JB]

Okay guys Im gonna order this stuff on monday but I have one last question.

The rear kit comes with some kinda shock extender, does this mean I can run my cuurent rear shocks (they are 2 months old)?

I need to know because this could save me about $80 if these brackets allow me to use stock shocks.

[kevhill85]

i ran the stock shock for awhile .

[Kenduhl]

JB, i highly reccomend DJM stuff, it handles great, and why just go 4/6:D ive got alot of clearance left with a 5/7 and a 28" tall tire in the front because im running DJM LCA's


(and yes the new spring plate is WELL worth the money)

[JB]

Originally posted by Kenduhl
JB, i highly reccomend DJM stuff, it handles great, and why just go 4/6:D ive got alot of clearance left with a 5/7 and a 28" tall tire in the front because im running DJM LCA's


(and yes the new spring plate is WELL worth the money)

4/6 is good enuf for me, I really dont wanna notch the frame. I want this reversible.

What tire are you running thats 28" tall? :think:

I was looking at Falkens 275/45/20 and those are 29.74"

[Kenduhl]

im running 245/40/20 front and a 295/40/20 rear.

[JB]

Okay, 3" lowering springs and DJM 5" flip with DT shocks are on the way from Summit, should be here tomorrow or Friday :rocking:

[Kenduhl]

its gonna be dropped for dustoff right?:D

[JB]

Originally posted by Kenduhl
its gonna be dropped for dustoff right?:D

Hell yeah it will be lowered, Im doing all this work by myself but Im determined to get it done this weekend :D

Im just gonna run the extenders in the back for now, the rear shocks only have about 1000 miles on them, when they wear out I will buy the DT's for the rear.

[JB]

Originally posted by kevhill85
i use ground froce 3' in the front (springs) and 5 ' in back( flip kit ). i have no prblems with this kit yet . i bought it asll from www.summitracing.com

Did you have to buy new spindles, because these springs are to short and are loose in the mounts, they have ALOT of play in them. I can actually move it around easily.

[kevhill85]

they r shorter then stock springs

[JB]

Originally posted by kevhill85
they r shorter then stock springs

They are ALOT shorter. These were 3"+ shorter than my heated stockers.

Anyway, thanks for the help today Kevin :head:

Hell I still gotta do the 5" rear flip tomorrow :crazy:

[kevhill85]

if u need any more help call my cell .