Sound Deadner GP?

[dabflyboy]

how about a sound deadner GP... like dynatmat or fatmat or something? im very interested in this and was wondering if anyone else is too? how would we go about getting one?

[tpichevy]

yeah ill do it if we can get a GP, that would be nice. does anyone know how to get one?

[dabflyboy]

isnt anyone interested in this?

[1buda]

I'm in if the price is right.

[dabflyboy]

well i have no clue on how to get one of these going so i figured id post it and maybe someone would chime in. you would think that a TON of people on this forum would jump on this band-wagon in a hurry but it seems not

[nebraskaz71]

Try to email the companies and ask if there willing

[RSTsilverado]

Id be in too...

[dabflyboy]

any suggestions for a brand?

[Mark]

I'll bite. Lemme see who will help us out. Email sent.

[DSZ71]

I might be able to get one going with RaamMat BXT (very similar to Dynamat Extreme). Let me email Rick over at Raam Audio to see if he is willing. Dont we need a mod's blessing?? What say you Mark...are we good to go on your end?

[Mark]

I say its a go whoever gets it going. Just get me the info. on whoever agrees to do it with us so we know who we're dealing with.

[dueprocess]

i would be in, i get the new system in on Friday!!!!!!

[DSZ71]

Well I emailed Rick McCallum over at Raam Audio, just waiting for him to reply. Seeing as how much trouble we had with our famed "RE Subs Group Buy" I dont want to be the middleman collecting the $$, as we can just order direct from Raam Audio. I can just help get the ball rolling.

[tpichevy]

im in depending on price.........just let us know.

[bthomas454]

im in

[muttman]

I am in as well depending on the price. Thanks for putting this together.

[DSZ71]

I got Rick McCallum over at Raam Audio to bite. He's down with the GB. YOu can find his product over at www.raamaudio.com
I have sent the information to Mark, so once he gives his final blessings, and okays everything we can get this deal going.

[Jokeman]

Whats the price?

[DSZ71]

Whats the price?

Waiting on final approval from Mark.

[dabflyboy]

hmmm how good is this stuff compared to fatmat and such? it seems on ebay you can get 100 sq ft of fatmat and a few others for about $100. but on raammat's website its showing for about 62.5 sp ft for $129, and i know im needing at least 200 sq ft for my truck and about the same for my fiances car

[Jimmy P]

i might be interested

[DSZ71]

Okay, here is what Rick McCallum (owner) emailed me to post as the OFFICIAL GROUP BUY RULES AND REGULATIONS:

"RAAMmat60 BXT Group Buy on for the month of May. BXT is butyl based like the
very best products on the market, aluminum backed and very easy to apply.
Retail price is $129 per 62.5 sq ft roll, it is on sale on Ebay at $99 but
our GB price is $89 per roll!

Ensolite foam is on the GB as well at $8.95 per running yard, 1/8" thick,
56" wide, minimum two yards, recommend at least three. This is the first
time it has been offered on a GB, not much off but RAAMaudio's regular price
is already the lowest around. Please check it out and the best glue to apply
it with on raamaudio.com.

For ordering info, installation guidance, advice to achieve your specific
goals, etc, email Rick, raam@raamaudio.com and send your zip code, he will
take care of all your needs on this GB.
RAAMaudio has a 300% growth rate this year, at times may take awhile to get
back to you but he will and is always glad to help you out. Below is
RAAMaudio's general install guide, please study it and then proceed with
your emails, etc.

"Here is what I recommend, this is from years of experience and alot of
customer feedback, it works very well.

-Front doors, doors with speakers, remove door panel and plastic moisture
barier, toss it in the trash.
-One layer of mat on most of the outer door skin, overlap the seems, add
two more smaller layers, about 12" sq, behind the speakers. Then the same
size piece of close cell foam on top of those layers(ensulite foam is best.
-Check for loose wires, cables, etc, inside the door, secure with foam tape,
tie wraps, etc. build up the speaker mounting location by making a solid
baffel that you can screw to the door then the speakers to it, MDF works
great and easy to work with.
-Seal up the door access holes with a piece of tin, I use perforated
aluminum, this gives the next layer of mat something to stick to and
tightens up the midbass response.
-Install one layer of mat over the inner door metal, seal all air passages
possible, cut the mat back around 1" from edge of door panel.
-Add a layer of 1/8" close cell foam, ensulite again is best but hard to
find, to the top of the mat, cut around all mounting points, same for the
mat, to make sure the door panel will fit back on ok, cut back around 1/2"
from edge of panel.
-Tap on the back of the door panel, being plastic it will have resonate
areas. Add patches of mat to those areas until it sounds deadened, usually
about 1/4 to 1/3 of the surface is enough, install the panel and test the
the door, slam it a few times and listen for rattles, etc.

Rear doors, as the front, if they have speakers in them.
Doors without speakers, just mat the inner door metal, covering the access
holes, like above no need to mat the outer door skin.
Rear side panels, outer metal skin, foam, varies from vehicle to vehicle,
try to seal up the best you can like the doors.
Rear hatch, same as above.

Floor, One layer everywhere, tap on the floor and add a second and sometims
a third layer to the resonate areas only, any more is a waste of mat and
effort, once and area is deadened, there is nothing more to gain with adding
more mat.
-Some tend to over use the mat in some areas and not enough in others.
-Add a layer of 1/4" close cell foam or two layers of 1/8" then the factory
carpet, done!

Notes:


If you want to go all out on the floor, you can add do a layering effect
over the really resonate areas of the floor. One layer of mat, a layer of
foam, another layer of mat then another layer of foam, only use 1/8" foam so
the floor does not get to high for the carpets to fit back in. This method
will absorb even more accoustical energy but mainly used for all out comp
car installs.

Roof, not usually needed, least results, alot of effort, once the rest is
done, test and decide what to do. On a black or very dark vehicle, a
tremendous amount of heat build up can occur on the roof, one layer is the
maximum I would use the cover it then add a solid layer of close cell foam.

If you have an exceptionally loud exhaust and or tires, they are the worst
offenders as they permeate the air around the vehicle and penetrate from
many areas. Sometimes they have to be changed no matter how well matted,
just want you to be aware of this issue."



Just make sure to mention you are part of the FSC (Full Size Chevy) Group Buy.

Okay lets start buying!

[DSZ71]

hmmm how good is this stuff compared to fatmat and such? it seems on ebay you can get 100 sq ft of fatmat and a few others for about $100. but on raammat's website its showing for about 62.5 sp ft for $129, and i know im needing at least 200 sq ft for my truck and about the same for my fiances car

Raam Mat BXT is superior to FatMat and some of the other cheaper products. This one compares to Dynamat Extreme, which sells for almost double what this product costs.

[Jimmy P]

maybe i missed it but how long is this on for?

[DSZ71]

maybe i missed it but how long is this on for?

Da month o' May

[dabflyboy]

Raam Mat BXT is superior to FatMat and some of the other cheaper products. This one compares to Dynamat Extreme, which sells for almost double what this product costs.
how much superior are we talking? not to doubt you, but is there any proof to this or others that could chime in too to give their suggestion? im just being cautious.

[Exalted512]

id put raam mat up against fatmat and brown bead any day...really good stuff at a great price...if that helps...
-Cody

[1buda]

How much would I need to do one layer maybe 2 on the doors, floor, and back wall on my 95 reg cab?

[dabflyboy]

id put raam mat up against fatmat and brown bead any day...really good stuff at a great price...if that helps...
-Cody
actually it does coming from you. i know you know what your talking about. ok, that settles it, im in and so is my fiance. i'll be buying for her.

[HAZARDOUS1500]

im in for a couple of rolls!!

[DSZ71]

one 62.5 ft^ roll might do the doors, and back wall, and maybe half of the floor. It would be safer to get 2 rolls, then add a second layer where you want it with the left over.

[tpichevy]

im in for 1 or 2 rolls, just let me know what i need to do next to get it!!

[DSZ71]

im in for 1 or 2 rolls, just let me know what i need to do next to get it!!

Just email Richard (Rick) at the email supplied in the thread above. Let him know you are with the group buy from FSC forums. Thats it. Its all handled between you and him, that way its kept simple and neat.

[Grunmn]

what a coincidence because I have been looking for some deadener. I was gonna get the 100 ft of brownbread, but this seems like a better deal (price)

[dabflyboy]

one 62.5 ft^ roll might do the doors, and back wall, and maybe half of the floor. It would be safer to get 2 rolls, then add a second layer where you want it with the left over.
are you talking about in a regular cab or extended?

[Exalted512]

this is the stuff i was planning on buying,you can't beat the price.but i might check into this raammat stuff also since i've got till end of may
http://edesignaudio.com/category.php?type=damp
their liquid deadening is like spray paint...it doesnt work at all. their mat isnt as good as raam mat and you have about a 50% chance that it sticks permanently even after prep work
-Cody

[Beaver Customs]

I'm in, I'll email him.

I suppose I should ask him but what would be neccesary again for an ext. cab.

[Beaver Customs]

I'm in, I'll email him.

I suppose I should ask him but what would be neccesary again for an ext. cab?

[DSZ71]

I'm in, I'll email him.

I suppose I should ask him but what would be neccesary again for an ext. cab?

I did mine (2000 Z71 extended cab) easily with 2 rolls, and even had some left over. I did floor, back wall, all doors (inner and outter panels).

[tpichevy]

i just got my order in :bling:

[cxpcman]

1 roll enough for my single cab ?

[DSZ71]

1 roll enough for my single cab ?

Maybe with one layer all around.

Bump

[cxpcman]

well gonna think about it. my pocket is kind of empty right now

[DSZ71]

well gonna think about it. my pocket is kind of empty right now

Well this is the time to get it for cheaper than it will ever be otherwise.

[Grunmn]

when you order will it arrive soon after payment or after the group buy is over? I didn't read the whole thing, so if it was already posted, my bad...

[DSZ71]

when you order will it arrive soon after payment or after the group buy is over? I didn't read the whole thing, so if it was already posted, my bad...

He will ship your order the same day or next. The special price just goes on for the month of May.

[tpichevy]

wow i got mine fast. this is what i got....
1.5) rolls of BXT mat $133.50
3) yards ensolite foam 29.85 (mat me just a bit more than you need but good to have around)
1) cans adhesive for ensolite 8.95
UPS ground shipping 14.91

Total $187.91
cant wait to put it in, GREAT guy he made me a deal and let me buy 1.5 rolls!!! everyone needs to jump on this fast!!!!

[DSZ71]

Glad to hear that. Rick is very easy to work with and always willing to do whatever it is to make you happy.

Daily bump.

[K5Chris]

how much would i need to do my K5? floor, 2 doors, and rear side panels

is this stuff also heat insulation?

[DSZ71]

I would think if Rick is willing to do 1/2 rolls, you could get away with 1.5 rolls, 2 rolls for better insulation. I will repel heat/cold to some extent. But I dont believe putting it in your engine bay or hood liner is good idea. If you want something on the inside of the cab/firewall area, its not a problem. As the adhesive may run some with extreme temps.

Daily bump

[DSZ71]

daily bump

[Grunmn]

wow i got mine fast. this is what i got....
1.5) rolls of BXT mat $133.50
3) yards ensolite foam 29.85 (mat me just a bit more than you need but good to have around)
1) cans adhesive for ensolite 8.95
UPS ground shipping 14.91

Total $187.91
cant wait to put it in, GREAT guy he made me a deal and let me buy 1.5 rolls!!! everyone needs to jump on this fast!!!!

Hey how good is the ensolite foam? I am thinking of ordering 2 rolls, but if one roll would be fine for a 98 ext. cab then I think your deal sounds pretty good. Lol I need to get in on this, but I still got a couple weeks

[tpichevy]

im not to sure how good it is, but i talked to the main guy thats sellin the stuff, and he said to go and do both, i guess the mat takes all the vibration and some noise out then the foam helpts to take the reast of the noise out and it make your speakers sound better and things like that, i dont know how well it would do by its self, i havnt had the chance to install my parts yet, but if i were you i would go and do what i did and get it all, its a good deal he was great to work with, and the shipping way vary fast, well worth the money to me if it cuts the noise down and makes it more injoyable to ride in!!

[DSZ71]

Only a few days left guys, get in on this one!!

[tpichevy]

yeah come on people

[Grunmn]

im not to sure how good it is, but i talked to the main guy thats sellin the stuff, and he said to go and do both, i guess the mat takes all the vibration and some noise out then the foam helpts to take the reast of the noise out and it make your speakers sound better and things like that, i dont know how well it would do by its self, i havnt had the chance to install my parts yet, but if i were you i would go and do what i did and get it all, its a good deal he was great to work with, and the shipping way vary fast, well worth the money to me if it cuts the noise down and makes it more injoyable to ride in!!

Hey what kind of truck do you have? that does sound like a good deal to me, but I have a 98 ext. cab and that sounds good, but I am not sure how much I would need. 1.5 rolls? hmm...

[toolfan91]

BXT is an AWESOME mat-based sound-deadener.... definetly a great deal here!

[tpichevy]

well i have a 92 reg cab, but he said with 1.5 rolls i will have some left over.....he said its good stuff to have layin around. the price is right i know that much!! you could always email him he was vary nice and hellped me out a lot!!!

[dabflyboy]

well i had ordered 3 rolls of raammat and and some ensolite and just put that stuff in my 2000 silverado ecsb AND my girlfriends 1994 honda accord coupe and even with doubling up on some areas i still have a bit left over. after it was all installed, we test drive both vehicles separately in the city and out on the highway. let me tell ya, it made a hell of a difference! both vehicles are soooo much quieter. im glad this GB was started. thanks y'all

[Grunmn]

made my order... :thumbup:

[Jonno]

I'm in just let me know a price.

Jon

[Grunmn]

I'm in just let me know a price.

Jon
prices are on page 2

[snowed500]

Last minute but,
1.5) rolls, BXT mat $133.50
3) yards ensolite 26.85
1) adhesive 7.95
UPS ground shipping 32.82 (my actual cost)

Total $210.12

Rick was knowledgeable and a pleasure to do business with, thanks to whoever got this Gp going :cheer:

[Grunmn]

Last minute but,
1.5) rolls, BXT mat $133.50
3) yards ensolite 26.85
1) adhesive 7.95
UPS ground shipping 32.82 (my actual cost)

Total $210.12

Rick was knowledgeable and a pleasure to do business with, thanks to whoever got this Gp going :cheer:

dunno if it matters, but you're total is 201.12. Ha I was wondering because mine was 208 and I live in alaska. Good deal though and :word: rick is a good guy to deal with

[snowed500]

Dude your right, I feel like an ass. I just sent Rick the total he gave me and never did the math myself...Thanks for doing it for me :cheer:

[snowed500]

Just to let you guys know it was an honest mistake and Rick took care of it immediately... :bowtie:

[dabflyboy]

hmmm i was over looking at the carsound forums and found this link to a raammat sale or something.
http://www.cureline.net/lex/raamsale.htm
its going for $79 a roll over there and we paid $89....something fishy?

[Grunmn]

yea that is lame

[cxpcman]

thats great thnk god i wait :P

[Grunmn]

oh well save $20

[dabflyboy]

for me it would have been $40 i ordered enough for mme and my girlfriend. thats almost a tank of gas!

[cxpcman]

to tell the truth i already buy some other brand (because of the price per sq ft). but now it seem competitive on that Group buy so I gonna buy a roll to give it a try.

[shyster7]

i wish i didnt miss this group buy, ill have to keep my eyes open next time.

[DSZ71]

Rick was knowledgeable and a pleasure to do business with, thanks to whoever got this Gp going :cheer:

It was I who contacted Rick about setting up this Group Buy, I also contacted him about the other pricing on the link listed above and he stated that the $79 per roll is for the normal Raammat 60 and not the Raammat BXT matting like we got. So its not as thick. The BXT is superior to the normal Raammat and is more like Dynamat Extreme.

[DirtyBlackHoe]

So its not as thick. The BXT is superior to the normal Raammat and is more like Dynamat Extreme.
He told me the same thing and I should be ordering here in a few days.

[dabflyboy]

ahhh ok that makes sense. the other GB didnt state that it was for the raammat 60 or bxt...i didnt even know they had anything but the bxt. thanks for clearing that up