Front pics of bagged NBS anyone?

[lowryder99]

Okay, like the title states I just need some pics of a NBS truck bagged up front and what needs to be done to make the set up work.

I have a job coming up with KP cups and I just want to make sure I am trimming back in the right areas and what not (the truck will retain stock upper and lower control arms but will have drop spindles)

Anyhelp would be appriciated!

[joakwin]

what size tires/wheels?
with my stock wheels all i need to cut off is the bump stop bracket

my upper cup is tall enuff but i have djm 4in lca and stock uca and spindles

not sure how the height of the kp cups

[Stigo69]

will a nbs lay all the way out on stock tires??

[lowryder99]

I believe it will be on stock tires for now and then possibly going to a 255/35/20.

[|3lack$ilverado]

will a nbs lay all the way out on stock tires??


If you cut it up enough....

[Stigo69]

you gotta tub the fire wall and everything??

[|3lack$ilverado]

you gotta tub the fire wall and everything??


Raise the front fenders. I'm not sure about fully tubbing the firewall, but at least beat it with a hammer. You also have to cut through the bedfloor in the rear to allow the differential to clear.

[Stigo69]

yea i got all that done so i should be alright

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

I'd suggest tacking the lower cup into place to keep the bag and cup from floating. This is what happened to mine and I rubbed a hole in a bag. You will have to cut the stock bumpstop off, also.

[comegetsome]

a new silverado will lay on stocks but it takes about the sameas laying it on 22s.....a 255/35-20 doesnt require spindals or moving the front fenders...cut off the bumpstop bracket and slap in the bag and your good to go after you pull teh front plastic fenders

[Izzy]

I'd suggest tacking the lower cup into place to keep the bag and cup from floating. This is what happened to mine and I rubbed a hole in a bag. You will have to cut the stock bumpstop off, also.
:word: ESPECIALLY if you use the DJM LCA's. :read:

[lowryder99]

I thought the lower cups are bolt in with the KP cups? Or am I wrong? If not I should tack the lower cups to the stock arms?

[Izzy]

I thought the lower cups are bolt in with the KP cups? Or am I wrong? If not I should tack the lower cups to the stock arms?
Nope, just like every other lower bag cup they just sit in the coil pocket.

[Bradford]

I tacked mine in also, knowing what happened to Pat and also just didn't like how it looked floating. I'm not sure on the kp cups tho. And a 255/35-20 will lay just fine on a nbs with stock arms/spindles.

[Stigo69]

what all you gotta do to lay on a 22??

[lowryder99]

what all you gotta do to lay on a 22??

Dude seriously start your own thread :aniteef: I am trying to get pics here not advice on how to lay on 22's

[Stigo69]

Dude seriously start your own thread :aniteef: I am trying to get pics here not advice on how to lay on 22's

sorry about the :jacked: it was a :badidea: ......lol but it was a free bump for ya... :LOL:

[comegetsome]

spindals:jess:

[Izzy]

I tacked mine in also, knowing what happened to Pat and also just didn't like how it looked floating. I'm not sure on the kp cups tho. And a 255/35-20 will lay just fine on a nbs with stock arms/spindles.
The only time I've seen this happen is with the DJM's and of course nobody knew about it at the time.

[comegetsome]

i just put one tack weld on each sid eof eth cup on mine....a while back my tacks broke aloose and it made a bunch of racket goig down my dirt road...i could tell that something wasnt right...i can only imagine what it would sound like if they were like that all teh time

[matrixbackman01]

my bottom cups float and they have been just fine

[Outlawcrewcab]

cups should be 5" tops and 1" lowers. you need to trim bump stop and bottom edge of spring pocket. best way is to mock up bag and cup see where its close and tri. best way!!

[TukN22z]

Well i dont know if this will help out.. but this is my set up on the front of my truck. the guy just welded a plate to the lower control arm and then made his own upper cup. also here is a pic of the firewall notch too...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e384/LayNLow95/DSC00519.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e384/LayNLow95/DSC00516.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e384/LayNLow95/DSC00517.jpg

this is laying 22's with 2" drop spindals

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e384/LayNLow95/DSC00524.jpg

Once again i dont really know if that helps considering ur going to be running the Kp cups. i would just clear everything to lay.. and then just take a little at a time off the cups. just my 2 cents.

[Stigo69]

No front shocks?? Is that a bad idea or does it matter?

[Outlawcrewcab]

yes you want front shocks!!!

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

The only time I've seen this happen is with the DJM's and of course nobody knew about it at the time.
:word: Mad props to izzy for looking out for everyone else now that he and i know ya need to tack them in. It was a lesson learned for both of us that I'm happy to have made to let everyone else know about it...lol. I wish I could have seen into the future and my ride would still be bagged.

Pat

[|3lack$ilverado]

yes you want front shocks!!!

:word::word::word:

[twankydeuce]

No front shocks?? Is that a bad idea or does it matter?

haha I dont have shocks up front or a swaybar! the bags I'm running are slams so its a stiff bag and my truck rides really nice.

[Bradford]

I have no shocks up front for now and a sway bar. And with weight over the ass it rides nice.

[|3lack$ilverado]

haha I dont have shocks up front or a swaybar! the bags I'm running are slams so its a stiff bag and my truck rides really nice.


You guys are nuts IMO. I have slams with 8 valves, billet 2 way adjustable shocks and a beefy front sway, and it still rides waaay to sloppy for my liking without the rear sway in.

By 'rides nice' do you mean goes over bumps nice, or do you mean you can drive the $hit out of it and feel confident that it will stick like glue around the next turn..?

[Izzy]

By 'rides nice' do you mean goes over bumps nice, or do you mean you can drive the $hit out of it and feel confident that it will stick like glue around the next turn..?
Probably 2% of the bagged population care about how it corners. :LOL:

It's not a "suspension" without shocks. :read:

[Izzy]

:word: Mad props to izzy for looking out for everyone else now that he and i know ya need to tack them in. It was a lesson learned for both of us that I'm happy to have made to let everyone else know about it...lol. I wish I could have seen into the future and my ride would still be bagged.

Pat
Trust me, I still feel bad but hey I learned something new. :LOL: :looking:

[|3lack$ilverado]

Probably 2% of the bagged population care about how it corners. :LOL:



I don't understand. :think: I guess I'm one of those function over form people. IMO, it's nice that it looks stylin to be low, but its not a statue to be admired, it's a truck that meant to be driven.

My only stipulations when bagging my truck was that it had to be lower than my static drop, handle better, have at least the stock load carrying capacity, have better ride quality and be 100% reliable as this is my dd. So far it's decent, but without the rear sway, I can feel the whole ass end pivot about the watts crank when pushing hard through the turns.

[Izzy]

My ART setup I had on my 83 with monroes and all 20+ year old stock bushings front/rear rode great.

[matrixbackman01]

i don't shocks up front but i do have the swaybar with slam re7s and it rides great to me

[Dukemaster]

I didnt have shocks and thought it rided nice...but ooo mannnn shocks are sweet though! NO more bounce bounce on big bumps

[Bradford]

I didnt have shocks and thought it rided nice...but ooo mannnn shocks are sweet though! NO more bounce bounce on big bumps
Now I am looking foreward to that!

[joakwin]

on my obs i had slams in the front with no shocks and it rode pretty good, not bad, no sway bar also
but ones i put some doetsch shocks on, omg it rode sweet, night and day different

slams ride better then stones but slams with shocks are even better

ones u roll with shocks in the front, u will never go back

peace

[matrixbackman01]

any body got a pic of what they did to mount the shock to the stock lower arms?

[TukN22z]

Yeah im not running shocks, but i still have my sway bar. Im hopefully going to get the truck tomorrow after work. The roads are pretty nice with a few humps here and there. I guess will see how that goes

[comegetsome]

i have slam on mine now and no shock or sway bar but one day im gonna put some on there...just to lazy to actually go out and do it

[Izzy]

The SD shock relocator kit is the best setup imo, the smooth button head on the lower stud helps too.

[Bradford]

..... but without the rear sway, I can feel the whole ass end pivot about the watts crank when pushing hard through the turns.

Really? You can feel my watts move at all. My truck stays planted in corners. Even without shocks. God all this talk of shocks makes me want them so much more. If i could only weld. I hate relying on other people to do work for me.

[|3lack$ilverado]

Really? You can feel my watts move at all. My truck stays planted in corners. Even without shocks. God all this talk of shocks makes me want them so much more. If i could only weld. I hate relying on other people to do work for me.


The truck doesn't have side to side, but without a swaybar, the shocks are the only thing that keeps the rear from rotating about its roll centre (the watts pivot). The watts will only prevent lateral forces from moving the truck body, not rotational, or else you couldn't hit 'sides' with a watts. I'm not one for playing with my bags too much, so I'd gladly trade the ability to screw around for a tighter feel in the twisties. I have my shocks on setting 9 of 16, which is pretty damn stiff, but I can still feel a bit of body roll, and thats on winter tires. When I put my F1 Supercars on, I'm sure the suspension will replace my tires as the weakpoint in my handling.

[Bradford]

Ah i get ya. What kind of shocks are you using?

[|3lack$ilverado]

Ah i get ya. What kind of shocks are you using?


I'm running the ART billet dual 16 way adjustables up front (very short stroke, only 4'' :( ), and the ART billet single 16 way adjustables in the rear.