takin a grinder to the leaf spings for tire clearence..bad idea?

[tpichevy]

so tonight i fixed the LCA issue with my 17x9.5 wheels, i took about 3-4" off the lip....now its on to the back...the 17x11s just clear the leaf but the 315/35 tires rub on them in the front...so in order to get them off the leaf i put some 3/8s spacers and now the studs are to short. so im goin to put longer studs in the rear but i was wonderin would it be a bad idea to take a grinder to about 4" of the leaf and take say about 1/4" or so out of them for some added clearence for the tires :banghead: or is this just a stupid idea :chair:

[Smithers]

well...i cant say i would do it. sorry man, just doesnt really seem to safe.

[Jimmy P]

im gunna have to go ahead and say no

[Blad]

can you post up pics of how wide the tires look under the bed

[crewon24s]

315-35 are wide ass hell i put some on my girls mustang with no prob with a 10 1/2 wheel if i were you i would four link it and put some coilovers or bags

[BagginA93chev]

i dont think that would be the best idea

[96thebossgrnchv]

naw man, i wouldn't shave the leafs, you have any pics of the lca's?

[ikon]

so tonight i fixed the LCA issue with my 17x9.5 wheels, i took about 3-4" off the lip....now its on to the back...the 17x11s just clear the leaf but the 315/35 tires rub on them in the front...so in order to get them off the leaf i put some 3/8s spacers and now the studs are to short. so im goin to put longer studs in the rear but i was wonderin would it be a bad idea to take a grinder to about 4" of the leaf and take say about 1/4" or so out of them for some added clearence for the tires :banghead: or is this just a stupid idea :chair:

Not to be a dick but it sounds like you shoulda done a little more research before you bought your rims and tires....

[tpichevy]

these are the wheels.. http://www.billetspecialties.com/itemdetail.asp?cid=16&scid=18&pid=13
i got them for a good deal, they were on a 96 bagged obs reg cab truck so the b.s. is setup for a 4-link and such...im lookin to do baggs down the road but for now ill have to run spacers, im fine with that!

[1fstgmcnd]

Good deal or not, that was a stupid ****ing move. WTF are you thinking?

Bad dog!

[ikon]

these are the wheels.. http://www.billetspecialties.com/itemdetail.asp?cid=16&scid=18&pid=13
i got them for a good deal, they were on a 96 bagged obs reg cab truck so the b.s. is setup for a 4-link and such...im lookin to do baggs down the road but for now ill have to run spacers, im fine with that!

With stupidity like that im suprised you didnt order ford wheels on accident.

[96thebossgrnchv]

mmm those are nice
http://www.billetspecialties.com/assets/500/0000000013-prod.jpg

[96thebossgrnchv]

With stupidity like that im suprised you didnt order ford wheels on accident.
:wtf: he didn't order them

[1fstgmcnd]

:wtf: he didn't order them

I think he was just kidding.

[Smithers]

the guy didnt ask for your advice on what size wheels, he asked a question about his leaf springs. if he wants to run some big ass wheels, thats his deal, you don't need to tell him he's stupid.

[tpichevy]

pic of the 315/35s on a 17x11 "old tires that came with the wheels" and my 275/35s on a 18x8.5 http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/moncarr6/ryanstruck038.jpg

[tpichevy]

sorry for the big pics...pic with the 275s http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/moncarr6/ryanstruck028.jpg

and pic of the 315s
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/moncarr6/ryanstruck017.jpg

pic of the LCAs
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/moncarr6/ryanstruck025.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/moncarr6/ryanstruck024.jpg

[tpichevy]

haha i dont give a flyin F*** if you think it was a stupid move or not....this is the look im wanting so thats why i did it! i have yet to see a obs truck with wide ass wheels/tires at all 4s that is nice a low. im lookin for a pro-touring/hotrod look. i have some power to back it up so why not!! so what if i have to run spacers in the rear for a while, ill be runnin longer studs so it should be fine, when i do a 4-link i wont have to use the spacers!! anyways more pics for the guys that care...
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/moncarr6/ryanstruck016.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/moncarr6/ryanstruck014.jpg
ill have to get better pics from the rear when its on the ground....right now im in the middle of pullin the trans...installin some longtubes...doin the rear disk brakes "i think" ummm doin a rear sway bar...also need to put longer studs in...hope to have it all done and back on the road for spring.

[96thebossgrnchv]

thanks for the lca pics, i need to do mine to run my spare, i like fat tires too, i'm running the biggest tire up front on my 4/6 drop possible (minimal rubbing) 275/40/20

[tpichevy]

Good deal or not, that was a stupid ****ing move. WTF are you thinking?

Bad dog!


haha commin from a guy that did air ride on a 4x4 imo thats f**kin stupid....everyone has there moments i guess

[ikon]

haha commin from a guy that did air ride on a 4x4 imo thats f**kin stupid....everyone has there moments i guess

Laf.....people bag 4x4's all the time...

[tpichevy]

thanks for the lca pics, i need to do mine to run my spare, i like fat tires too, i'm running the biggest tire up front on my 4/6 drop possible (minimal rubbing) 275/40/20
sorry the pics arnt the best...there are some better ones here...
http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248309
i have always liked to look of nice wide tires on most anythin camaros, corvettes, hotrods, i just think it gives it a mean look drivin down the road! i was runnin 275/35/18s at all 4s, now ill be runnin 275/40 17x9.5 and 315/35 17x11s

[1fstgmcnd]

Laf.....people bag 4x4's all the time...

w3rd and i wasnt the first bagged 4x4 either.

Talk about a low blow ouch haha.

Grow up buddy there is a reason i have two sticky threads on this forum. LOL.
Anyways. Moving on.

I was just posting to tell you to be safe. Bagging a 4x4 wasnt that hard, and its done all the time. Dont act stupid, or make stupid comments becuz you are in a rush to fit wheels. You rushed it and cheaped out, didnt do researched and ****ed up and its not safe. Thats all im stating. I have more pull on this page then you think, Grow up b4 you start acting like my little sister who is your age. Im building a 2wd now too. So all in all im telling you, do the right thing. We are all here to help, dont get pissed when people tell you, you are doing the wrong thing. Isnt that why you are posting and a member on this page in the first place?????

LOL

[Chevytodd]

Rims look sweet IMO tpichevy !! Billet Specialties = :boobies: (Over my budget range though, $$$ :bawl: ) Just wondering, was there ever a thread on your TPI conversion? Was it done on the original motor or is it out of a 3rd gen Camaro or something ??

[1fstgmcnd]

haha commin from a guy that did air ride on a 4x4 imo thats f**kin stupid....everyone has there moments i guess

LOL, i love it. keyword research!
I will say nothing more.

[tpichevy]

Rims look sweet IMO tpichevy !! Billet Specialties = :boobies: (Over my budget range though, $$$ :bawl: ) Just wondering, was there ever a thread on your TPI conversion? Was it done on the original motor or is it out of a 3rd gen Camaro or something ??

thanks for the comment....for 650$ i couldnt pass it up they were just what i was lookin for! and no there was never a thread on my swap i did it befor i was a member. the truck was a 4.3 5spd and i swaped for a 5.7 tpi that i built from a 91 z28 and a built 700r4 from my old 91obs. do a search tho you will find a lot out there for the tbi to tpi... im a member at thirdgen.org they also have a ton on this swap!

[1fstgmcnd]

thanks for the comment....for 650$ i couldnt pass it up they were just what i was lookin for! and no there was never a thread on my swap i did it befor i was a member. the truck was a 4.3 5spd and i swaped for a 5.7 tpi that i built from a 91 z28 and a built 700r4 from my old 91obs. do a search tho you will find a lot out there for the tbi to tpi... im a member at thirdgen.org they also have a ton on this swap!

I respect your work with motors and what you are doing, it takes time and know how. As with my situation back in the day when i built my supercharged bagged 4x4. Lets agree to disagree and work together, sounds like a nice swap.

[Chevytodd]

thanks for the comment....for 650$ i couldnt pass it up they were just what i was lookin for! and no there was never a thread on my swap i did it befor i was a member. the truck was a 4.3 5spd and i swaped for a 5.7 tpi that i built from a 91 z28 and a built 700r4 from my old 91obs. do a search tho you will find a lot out there for the tbi to tpi... im a member at thirdgen.org they also have a ton on this swap!
Sweet ! Thanks for the info !

[tpichevy]

see now if you say it that way its no big deal, i have no problem...i got a good deal on the wheels, i knew from the start the b.s. was not right for my setup right now, lack of research on my end...my ass! also i know spacers arnt the best thing to use, BUT thats why im takin the extra step and adding longer studs. i know of people runnin spacers and adapters that run 10s at the track and have never had probelms, does it still make it right or "safe" no but im goin to take the chance intell i do the 4-link. like you said this site is here to ask qs and get help.....i do have a problem when people go out of there way to try to make other members look stupid, its uncalled for and not needed on this site

[1fstgmcnd]

I respect that. good stuff as long as you are willing to do the right thing. As for you doing research. You seem to know your ****, so with me being blunt about it i figured you would have known better which you do. Its all good man, you are willing to make it right. Its all good man. NO hard feelings. I respect and love the OBS guys, thats what i am!!!! lets stick together.
good stuff. :fsg:



see now if you say it that way its no big deal, i have no problem...i got a good deal on the wheels, i knew from the start the b.s. was not right for my setup right now, lack of research on my end...my ass! also i know spacers arnt the best thing to use, BUT thats why im takin the extra step and adding longer studs. i know of people runnin spacers and adapters that run 10s at the track and have never had probelms, does it still make it right or "safe" no but im goin to take the chance intell i do the 4-link. like you said this site is here to ask qs and get help.....i do have a problem when people go out of there way to try to make other members look stupid, its uncalled for and not needed on this site

[Toolman]

Not to be a dick but it sounds like you shoulda done a little more research before you bought your rims and tires....


Not to be a dick but you should read the site rules before making a sig bigger than a site allows. Please make the change to a size no larger than 500x200. While you are at let take things down a notch.






TPI, You do not want to trim the leafs. They are tempered and you will mess it up if you cut into them. The only time that you can cut into them is to use it in a 2 link application.:crazy: (that is a joke)

[Loudnfast91]

tpichevy - the tire/wheel combo looks badass!!!

[Low88]

I say splurge and 4link it, I moved my whole 4link inside the chassis because I didn't know what wheels/tires I would run. Just food for thought.

[SolMan98]

TPI, You do not want to trim the leafs. They are tempered and you will mess it up if you cut into them. The only time that you can cut into them is to use it in a 2 link application.:crazy: (that is a joke)

:word:

[1badgmc]

Those fat ass tires stuffed under there look friggin' awesome!

[Marcos]

Good choice of wheels, man its gonna look sweet when you put it down on the ground, keep us updated.

[1BadZ71Tahoe]

haha i dont give a flyin F*** if you think it was a stupid move or not....this is the look im wanting so thats why i did it! i have yet to see a obs truck with wide ass wheels/tires at all 4s that is nice a low. im lookin for a pro-touring/hotrod look. i have some power to back it up so why not!! so what if i have to run spacers in the rear for a while, ill be runnin longer studs so it should be fine, when i do a 4-link i wont have to use the spacers!! anyways more pics for the guys that care...
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/moncarr6/ryanstruck016.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/moncarr6/ryanstruck014.jpg
ill have to get better pics from the rear when its on the ground....right now im in the middle of pullin the trans...installin some longtubes...doin the rear disk brakes "i think" ummm doin a rear sway bar...also need to put longer studs in...hope to have it all done and back on the road for spring.

Sounds like you have good plans. Get longer studs and run a 3/8" spacer for now. Pro Touring for life. :head:

And I know you know now, but don't touch your leaf springs. The only piece of suspension I would ever modify would be gussets on LCA's (Structurally that is). Tubular upgrade would be better but isn't usually financially viable, like your wheels. There are plenty of us in your boat, and you do what you can as close to how you like it, with the money you have.

Take Care,

- B

[ikon]

Not to be a dick but you should read the site rules before making a sig bigger than a site allows. Please make the change to a size no larger than 500x200. While you are at let take things down a notch.






TPI, You do not want to trim the leafs. They are tempered and you will mess it up if you cut into them. The only time that you can cut into them is to use it in a 2 link application.:crazy: (that is a joke)

Not to be a dick but ive already been informed about the 500x200 signature size and it has already been taken care of. And what do i need to "step down" i simply told him he should have done a little more research before he bought his rims. Had he investigated it properly he wouldnt have to worry about his rims rubbing his leafs. I was just stating the obvious...

[Chuggs]

Not to be a dick
Okay...

but ive already been informed about the 500x200 signature size and it has already been taken care of.
Look again -- still to tall :read:

And what do i need to "step down" i simply told him he should have done a little more research before he bought his rims. Had he investigated it properly he wouldnt have to worry about his rims rubbing his leafs. I was just stating the obvious...
How about just not responding to this thread anymore? You've made your point, so move on. If I wanted to be a dick, I'd call your responses in this thread and your response to Toolman demeaning to your fellow site members as well as to the FSC Staff. You should really put some serious thought before responding to this -- you're walking the line of a temporary ban.

TPIChevy & 2LOW4ND -- it might be best if you take notes here should you decide to respond again.

Back to topic -- notching your springs -- bad idea, regardless of how little you're trimming out.

[ikon]

Okay...

Look again -- still to tall :read:

How about just not responding to this thread anymore? You've made your point, so move on. If I wanted to be a dick, I'd call your responses in this thread and your response to Toolman demeaning to your fellow site members as well as to the FSC Staff. You should really put some serious thought before responding to this -- you're walking the line of a temporary ban.

TPIChevy & 2LOW4ND -- it might be best if you take notes here should you decide to respond again.

Back to topic -- notching your springs -- bad idea, regardless of how little you're trimming out.

PM sent

[454ss]

:shutup:

[ikon]

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/secsi_ikon/untitled.jpg?t=1168462572

Enjoy

[96thebossgrnchv]

dude 320x213 is to tall, the limit is 500x200, 213>200

[Quyonmob]

Those look badass! The pro-touring look rules. Good choice on the rims. :thumbup:

3/8 spacers with longer studs is a pretty ideal solution until you link it. Its relatively safe on the rear, just keep an eye on lug torque.

[JB]

so with the spacers the tires clear?

if so then go for the longer studs

[lowryder99]

Man I LOVE the look of a 315 tire being stuffed, great choice!

[tpichevy]

thanks guys!! yes with the 3/8 spacers the tires are off the leaf. does anyone know were i can find some longer studs for my truck? also does anyone know if i HAVE to pull the axels to put new ones in? i was thinkin about doin the rear disk swap also so if i take apart the rear drums i wonder if i will have the room to pound out the old and press in new without dropin the cover...

[Marcos]

im pretty sure you have to take the drum assembly off and the backing plate to get longer ones in, i know you have to squeeze the originals in when i replaced mine... but yeah just pound the sh1t out of the old one and impact the new one in...

[Marcos]

oh and summit will have longer ones, the ones you would use on race cars...

[Blad]

damn, that wheel/tire combo looks badass! since we are talking about strengh and safety, what do you think about widening wheels? because im planning on widening 17inch impala wheels to 10.5 in the back.

[bdiamond]

Did you widen the tubs in the bed? What backspacing are those wheels? When I measured mine it looked like a 12" wide tire would rub both inside and outside of the wheelwell.

[blazenlo95]

Those fat tires look awesome out back. I love that look! Can't wait to see some better pics from farther behind the truck!:head:

[1fstgmcnd]

Those fat tires look awesome out back. I love that look! Can't wait to see some better pics from farther behind the truck!:head:

agreed.

[drpdshrty]

wheels look great man, im going for the same look.

[96thebossgrnchv]

damn man, every time i see this pic it makes me want to get some 17's
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/moncarr6/ryanstruck016.jpg

[1fstgmcnd]

holy ****.

nice!!!!!!!!!!

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/moncarr6/ryanstruck014.jpg

[1fstgmcnd]

Its kinda what i was looking to do with my truck when i posted this thread. I was looking for the most wide wheels largest tire and offest you person can run on a non tubbed rearend with leafsprings on a 4/6 drop. This thread helps alot.
I might just have to jump to a 4 link with coilovers now.
Here is the link.
http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248392

[tpichevy]

fronts are 17x9.5 with a 5.5bs and the rears are 17x11s with 7"bs. i dont think ill be able to lay out but i have shockwaves for the front so i wont be able to anyways. if i can lay vlance ill be fine with that...i guess....its the price im goin to pay for the look i want of the wide wheel/tires. i might have to tub the rear if i want to lay the back out the 315s are supper close to the lip and i took a hammer to the inside of the fender, there is a bump that runs along the bottom on the inside fender so i beat that flat for added clearence. the first time i put the wheels/tires on the rear i found out my axle was about 3/4" off center one tire fit great and the other didnt at all.

[tpichevy]

oh and summit will have longer ones, the ones you would use on race cars...

does anyone know what size the studs are? 5/8s right?

[tpichevy]

im pretty sure you have to take the drum assembly off and the backing plate to get longer ones in, i know you have to squeeze the originals in when i replaced mine... but yeah just pound the sh1t out of the old one and impact the new one in...

if i did the disk brakes i would be pullin all this off anyways so if i did that then would i have the room to push new longer ones in do you think?

[ikon]

I was informed tonight that somewhere out there you can find a relocator kit for your leafsprings which will actually pull your leafs in a few inches. Now im not sure whether or not they make it for your style truck but it might be something you want to check out.

[tpichevy]

thanks ill have to look more into that!!! does anyone know were i could find this? also would these studs be a good choice? http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MOR%2D46240&N=700+115&autoview=sku
think i might pop and do this also http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=TFS%2D8510300&N=700+0&autoview=sku

[tpichevy]

i was lookin at pics and found this one, just a quick pic of the motor!
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/moncarr6/06carshow088.jpg

[Izzy]

Why not rebuild or fab up some new mounting points for the leafs that are closer to the frame then cut and reinstall the leaf saddles on the axle?

[tpichevy]

well if im goin to go through the trouble of fabin new stuff and rebuildin things for the leaf i would just do a 4-link.....im not even sure were i can get coilovers for my truck...

[likaroc13]

gonna look bada$$...i like that wheel/tire combo

[Izzy]

well if im goin to go through the trouble of fabin new stuff and rebuildin things for the leaf i would just do a 4-link.....im not even sure were i can get coilovers for my truck...
Talk to wkdspd, he's got some and so does another member on here.

[tpichevy]

mmmmmm meat!!! http://www.fullsizechevy.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/13454/cat/500/ppuser/23098 this setup is very nice!! http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221735&highlight=mrflames

[tpichevy]

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/13087/cat/500/ppuser/23098
ill have to ask how much they spend on somthin like this

[bdiamond]

The axles will probably have to come out for the disc brake swap.The stock studs are 12mm I think either that or 1/2" but they aren't 5/8.

[Blad]

yeah, im interested in that four link with coils too. where could i get something like that at?