the Phoenix Gold 6.5" components are installed w/pics

[oldred95]

First impression when I opened the box was this set is of pretty high quality. The subs weigh about as much as 3 stock speakers combined. I just drilled 4 holes in the door for each of the subs and screwed them in. I had a heck of a time finding a place for the cross overs. I wanted them in the doors and had to settle for putting them in right behind where the window switch bezel goes. The only issue here was that I couldn't use the covers on the cross overs so they are exposed. I don't see this being a problem though since they are mounted so high and since there is a layer of plastic and sheet metal between it and the elements of the door. The tweeters took a little more work. I used the stock tweeter bezel plate and used a rotoray file to make a hole big enough for the tweeters. Then I used plastic epoxy to glue the tweeters into the bezels. The stupid little plastic studs broke off the tweeter bezels of course so I used 1/4 inch bolts. Should have painted the heads but oh well. I'm not using an amp either and don't plan on it. They have a pretty nice thump to them for no amp and the tweeters are crystal clear. For 75 bucks I think they will do just fine. Only thing I didn't like is there was no speaker wire included. Luckily I had some and was able to make due with crimp on terminals for the rest. I didn't deaden anything yet but I still might sometime. I've heard that after some break in time the speakers sound even better. Is this right?

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[AuburnTruck93]

throw that mid on a baffle and get some deadening in that door and you will be set.

this is a 1/2" baffle so its flush with the door panel. the door has about 20 feet of deadening.

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[oldred95]

I didn't have any materials handy so I had to make due just mounting the speaker to the sheet metal like that. I'm sure that would help and deadening would do a lot too. At least they are in there. I was down to one front speaker half arsed working and one tweeter that worked with the stock crap.

[bassbaker69]

How are you guys liking your RSD sets?? i have one set per door of my truck.. and i went ahead and mounted the tweeter on the piller to give it a more direct high.. I have them hooked up to a alpine 4ch and they sound really great.. no compaints at all from me. I had to go a little over board on the highs becuase of the tremendous amount of bass i have lol


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[AuburnTruck93]

i cant imagine the imaging in that truck....

no offense but its just not my style. if you like it, its all that matters

[bassbaker69]

sorry you dont care for it, but im building it as a daily driveable show truck. and everything serves a purpous. i installed all that to keep up with the bass. and the bass is to keep myself content.. i have an addiction to loud obnoxious bass lol

[oldred95]

I got a few hours road time today and ended up playing the entire See you on the other side Korn CD. The components sound extremely clear. I was able to hear back ground vocals and harmonys I've never heard before. The tweeters are very impressive. The only thing I noticed and didn't like was what sounded like static in the subwoofers. I think it was actually all the clear plastic in the doors rattling and distorting the sound, I know the problem was not the speakers themselves. It could also be a head unit issue since it is the stock head unit afterall. I think deadening the doors will make a night and day difference but for now they seem to be working great.

[Nick Z71]

Looks nice but be careful. That Factory head unit probably puts out maybe 9 watts RMS each channel and you have a good chance of blowing those.

[BOTMAN]

Looks nice but be careful. That Factory head unit probably puts out maybe 9 watts RMS each channel and you have a good chance of blowing those.

How would it blow the speakers?

[Nick Z71]

How would it blow the speakers?

It's easier to blow speakers by underpowering them then overpowering them.

[oldred95]

It's easier to blow speakers by underpowering them then overpowering them.

I read that and then I read thats BS. I don't know what to think but the factory head unit does suck alright. I had no idea it was just 9 watts though. That is beyond pathetic.

Did some Crutchfield searching just to get an idea of what amp I might need since I know nothing about them. This is just an example but the RMS rating matches the speakers, its 4 channel and the thing I like is the speaker level sensing so it will hook up to a stock head unit without the RCA cables and all that other BS if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_158XM4S/Sony-Xplod-XM-4S.html?tp=115

[bonedust]

It's easier to blow speakers by underpowering them then overpowering them.

thats part of the equasion...the other is distortion. and yes, seperates should NEVER be run off of an OEM h/u.

[Nick Z71]

thats part of the equasion...the other is distortion. and yes, seperates should NEVER be run off of an OEM h/u.

You are correct sir!

[BOTMAN]

I read that and then I read thats BS. I don't know what to think but the factory head unit does suck alright. I had no idea it was just 9 watts though. That is beyond pathetic.

Did some Crutchfield searching just to get an idea of what amp I might need since I know nothing about them. This is just an example but the RMS rating matches the speakers, its 4 channel and the thing I like is the speaker level sensing so it will hook up to a stock head unit without the RCA cables and all that other BS if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_158XM4S/Sony-Xplod-XM-4S.html?tp=115

Check this amp out. You would like it better than that Sony.

Kicker zx250.2 (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6569_Kicker+ZX250.2.html?utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=froogle)

[Nick Z71]

Yeah Sony = Trash, I can't believe you just posted a link to it lol.

[Atomic]

It's easier to blow speakers by underpowering them then overpowering them.

uhu....so why dont speakers explode when you turn the volume down?

[alaxrunner]

looks like a nice setup,i need a set of tweeters the guy who had my truck before me replaced the door speakers then took out the tweeters.

[///M5]

It looks like your crossovers are in your door, if they get wet they will be ruined.

Underpowering CANNOT ever hurt a speaker. NEVER. The only way to hurt a speaker is to be an idiot with the gain knob.

And bassbaker if you really want a "show" truck and the capability of "keeping up" with your bass we can help, what you currently have installed won't do it.

[oldred95]

It looks like your crossovers are in your door, if they get wet they will be ruined.


Yes they are in the doors. They are mounted right next to the window switches and I've never seen water make its way to the window switches and it would have to be about impossible unless the window is down during a big rain. I'm not worried about them getting wet at all.


Sorry for posting a sony amp. Audio makes as much sense to me as woman. I'll have to look into that kicker sometime. The components sound decent right now but I know they really need amped to sound good.

[Spl170s]

ill never forget the many o infinity tweets i burned up till i was told i was underpowering the comp sets.....got a bigger amp and no more tweet issues.

[///M5]

ill never forget the many o infinity tweets i burned up till i was told i was underpowering the comp sets.....got a bigger amp and no more tweet issues.

That wasn't the amp but you. You can't just turn up an amp passed where it can make power. In other words you didn't blow them from underpowering them, but blew them by not understanding what you were doing. You had your gains in the cooked and clipped position which fried your tweets.

[Black90Sport]

so how did u run the power to the x overs from the stock head unit? im doing this now and just trying to decide how im going to tackle it

[qukon 95]

it's the distortion from under powering the speakers that
ruin them.

[///M5]

it's the distortion from under powering the speakers that
ruin them.

No. It is impossible for underpowering a speaker to hurt it. Stop e-gurgitating bad old wives tales that you've heard on the internet. If you blow a driver it is either because you go beyond its mechanical or its thermal limits. Neither of these are possible with too little power.

[oldred95]

so how did u run the power to the x overs from the stock head unit? im doing this now and just trying to decide how im going to tackle it

I reluctantly cut the connectors off that went to the stock woofers. I soldered speaker wire on and ran them to the input side of the crossover. Then you run speaker wire from the crossover to the woofer and tweeter. I found I was able to take the stock tweeters and cut the connectors off (they are female connectors) and solder them onto the new tweeters and then use the connectors (male) that I cut off the woofer speaker harness and made a factory looking short two wire harness with a connector in the middle to the tweeter. I did this so that when removing the door panel I simply have to unplug the connector to the tweeter rather then loosen the screws and pull the wires out of the crossover.

[kurrupt8708]

fyi you can not ruin speakers by underpowering them or by hook them to your stock h/u.

good job on hooking everything up but yes this will sound better after a little while after everything loosens up a little bit. put them on an amp and you will love them even more than you do now i have 4 sets in my truck and i wouldnt change them for anything else in there price bracket

[oldred95]

I'm considering getting an amp with speaker level inputs and running it off the stock head unit. I just need to get some money saved up first.