I still cant believe im in this subforum.

[ilikedirt]

I'm new to the street stuff and I want to try out lowering my truck. I have a 4WD sierra and i'm looing to take the stock blocks out the rear, 2" drop shackles then crank way down in the front. Is it safe to crank way down in the front? Do I need to get bumpstops? Any and all help would be appreciated. Also, if you happen to have any pics of this setup post em up! Thanks!

Oh yeah, I posted here instead of the 4x4 street section because I might order this stuff this coming weekend.

[1badgmc]

:LOL: You're not quite in the right room, bud. Go step into the 4x4 Street forum. :D

[Blaze5509]

all I can say is purple keys!

[ilikedirt]

:LOL: You're not quite in the right room, bud. Go step into the 4x4 Street forum. :D

read last line..All there is are crickets in there lol

[=Lawrence=]

wtf happened to lifting it? What did you ever do with that body lift you have?

[1badgmc]

True. You're in a minority.

[BHB]

True. You're in a minority.

Trey drank the koolaid.

..But its cool to have some exclusivity.

[1badgmc]

Cherry Kool-Aid is best.

[ilikedirt]

wtf happened to lifting it? What did you ever do with that body lift you have?

Meh too much to lift, want to do something different, cheaper to drop


True. You're in a minority.

Sadly


Trey drank the koolaid.

..But its cool to have some exclusivity.

I drank the koolaid you gave to me lol

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Alright well, anybody have (more) advice on what I need to do?

[Nickleahy23]

go on gmfs..boostaholic aka max is selling some 3/4 ton keys for lowering.like $50 bucks...you can crank the front down 2-3 inches with those keys, get rid of your block, and do the shackles and be at a 2/4 or 3/5 drop..

very simple to do

[rebelbowtie]

dropping isnt easier trey :lol: this method of drop will cost you the same as ford keys and block or AAL. BUT i stress you get purple keys. i'd sell you mine but i'm trading someone for their green keys. good luck. and dont change your mind half way through.
****edit****
check out rays4x4 or crewcab06 build threads. they are still very active. and both did similar drops as you. at first.

[ilikedirt]

go on gmfs..boostaholic aka max is selling some 3/4 ton keys for lowering.like $50 bucks...you can crank the front down 2-3 inches with those keys, get rid of your block, and do the shackles and be at a 2/4 or 3/5 drop..

very simple to do

hmm where could i order 3/4 keys?

[rebelbowtie]

:read: my post trey. 3/4 ton keys are called "purple" keys. all stock 2500 and 3500 trucks have them.

[Nickleahy23]

hmm where could i order 3/4 keys?

like i said talk to max on gmfs or tahoe forum and hell hook it up..he did my drop on my truck for me and got me my wheels..hes good ****

keys-60 bucks
shackle- 50 bucks..

little over 100 bucks and your dropped..plus the cost of an alignment

[ilikedirt]

little tire dillema. Either I go with

A) Taller, more ballon like tire (will fill up wheelwells but will be ballonish)

B) Smaller less ballonish tires (tires will look pretty small with the planned drop)

[rebelbowtie]

the 18s will fill the wheel wells nicely. what size tire you planning on running?

[RoughnReadyZ71]

If you decide to lower it, ill buy your 3" body lift, I live somewhat near you and I have the SAME truck. Shoot, ill even give you a hand with this drop if you decide to do it.

[rebelbowtie]

look at this. progress already. trey you cant back out now

[ilikedirt]

If you decide to lower it, ill buy your 3" body lift, I live somewhat near you and I have the SAME truck. Shoot, ill even give you a hand with this drop if you decide to do it.

I dont have a BL? lol

oh yeah btw I am not allowed to lift. Dad says haha

[robbo323]

My dad told me I coudln't lift my old truck either. I got a job made my money and did the bl road and the old man didn't give a Sh!t with my money. Anyway, i think your truck owuld look sick lowered but if he wont let you lift then how is he cool with lowering?

[ilikedirt]

My dad told me I coudln't lift my old truck either. I got a job made my money and did the bl road and the old man didn't give a Sh!t with my money. Anyway, i think your truck owuld look sick lowered but if he wont let you lift then how is he cool with lowering?

He's just not cool with it lifted because then he really wont be able to get in it. (he's kinda crippled)

[BHB]

It's easier to wash and wax too.:biggrin:

[1LOW4X4]

If you remove the 2" blocks and install 2" drop shackles, it might be a good idea to get new shocks. Some may disagree, but thats 4 inches lower on stock shocks......

My advice is to remove the 2" blocks, get a 4" flip kit. Then buy new shocks. You won't be happy with just 4" lower in the rear. That's like a leveled out 2wd stance. You want a little bit lower, trust me. Its not too low, just right. If it were me I'd go the 6, and the 4" flip kit is the way to go (with the 2" block removal). Much easier than hangers and shackles for the same 4".

Heres the thing though. If you go 6" lower in the rear, you cant just do purple keys in the front, that won't be enough. This was my delimma. I didn't want to have just a 2wd stock stance, so I had to spend the extra money. Another thing, If you go the route I did, (6" lower in rear) its a good idea to get a c-notch. Its not extremely important, as you'll still have 2" of space between the axle and frame, but eventually you'll want one.

In the rear I did:

*Removal of 2" block----free, but you have to buy shorter u-bolts. I got mine for $50.

*Installed 2" hangers and 2" shackles. It was like $200 for the kit. You could get a 4" flip kit for cheaper I think, and its easier to install.

*Installed Lowering shocks, $69 each.

*C-notch, $300.00 (optional for this amount of drop)

So all in all about $400 for the everything to drop the rear, and an added 150-300 to c-notch. (optional).

In the front I did:

*Purple keys, brand new from GM, $38 each.

*3" lowering control arms, $350 for the set.

*lowering shocks, $69 each

So about $564 for the front.

That gave me about a 3" front, 5" drop rear. ( I removed the overload leaf spring in the rear for that extra inch, optional....)

So about $1300 bucks give or take a few to do it right for a 3-5 drop. Figure about $50 for an alignment. My truck was sitting next to my buddys today at work, and his is 2wd, with a 3-5 drop. Mine sat about the same height as his, maybe a smidgion lower.

If you decide to go this route, let me know, my drop thread has all the links to everything I bought. I can also give you advice on installing all this shyt, it can be a bear.......Of course, with all the money for this drop, then figure in new wheels and tires, if not just wheels....it can get expensive. I planned to accumulate all this stuff gradually, but it all blew out of proportion and now I've got a sweet lowered truck on 22's in the driveway.:whatever:

Here is a pic of the drop, on 265/75/16's with no rub. Then heres a pic with the 22's, no rub.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/nickboudro/006-8.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/nickboudro/010-8.jpg

[ilikedirt]

It's easier to wash and wax too.:biggrin:

Hey so the 285/55 or 285/50's?

I'm really not looking to spend a whole bunch of money and those are the best sizes for the best price I can find.

[1LOW4X4]

If you have any q's at all let me know. I'd be more than glad to help.....

[BHB]

How low are you going, or have you not made up your mind about that either???

[ilikedirt]

If you remove the 2" blocks and install 2" drop shackles, it might be a good idea to get new shocks. Some may disagree, but thats 4 inches lower on stock shocks......

My advice is to remove the 2" blocks, get a 4" flip kit. Then buy new shocks. You won't be happy with just 4" lower in the rear. That's like a leveled out 2wd stance. You want a little bit lower, trust me. Its not too low, just right. If it were me I'd go the 6, and the 4" flip kit is the way to go (with the 2" block removal). Much easier than hangers and shackles for the same 4".

Heres the thing though. If you go 6" lower in the rear, you cant just do purple keys in the front, that won't be enough. This was my delimma. I didn't want to have just a 2wd stock stance, so I had to spend the extra money. Another thing, If you go the route I did, (6" lower in rear) its a good idea to get a c-notch. Its not extremely important, as you'll still have 2" of space between the axle and frame, but eventually you'll want one.

In the rear I did:

*Removal of 2" block----free, but you have to buy shorter u-bolts. I got mine for $50.

*Installed 2" hangers and 2" shackles. It was like $200 for the kit. You could get a 4" flip kit for cheaper I think, and its easier to install.

*Installed Lowering shocks, $69 each.

*C-notch, $300.00 (optional for this amount of drop)

So all in all about $400 for the everything to drop the rear, and an added 150-300 to c-notch. (optional).

In the front I did:

*Purple keys, brand new from GM, $38 each.

*3" lowering control arms, $350 for the set.

*lowering shocks, $69 each

So about $564 for the front.

That gave me about a 3" front, 5" drop rear. ( I removed the overload leaf spring in the rear for that extra inch, optional....)

So about $1300 bucks give or take a few to do it right for a 3-5 drop. Figure about $50 for an alignment. My truck was sitting next to my buddys today at work, and his is 2wd, with a 3-5 drop. Mine sat about the same height as his, maybe a smidgion lower.

If you decide to go this route, let me know, my drop thread has all the links to everything I bought. I can also give you advice on installing all this shyt, it can be a bear.......Of course, with all the money for this drop, then figure in new wheels and tires, if not just wheels....it can get expensive. I planned to accumulate all this stuff gradually, but it all blew out of proportion and now I've got a sweet lowered truck on 22's in the driveway.:whatever:

Here is a pic of the drop, on 265/75/16's with no rub. Then heres a pic with the 22's, no rub.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/nickboudro/006-8.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/nickboudro/010-8.jpg

Funny you post in here lol I was just skimming through your build thread. Thanks alot for the info...Your truck looks badass but for my sierra being a DD...I dont think I want it that low unless it performs really well.

My whole idea for this was to drop for CHEAP and to be easily returned to stock (if I dont like it) or get the $$$ to lift. What you have spent is way over my budget haha

But if I end up liking it alot, I could have the chance to build up a bigger drop..How low can I go on a 150-200 budget?

Also, do you know if you can tow with the flip kit??

[ilikedirt]

How low are you going, or have you not made up your mind about that either???

At least removing the block, 2" shackles and crank down.

[BHB]

At least?

Commit already!!!

Your worse than a chic.:whyme:

[rebelbowtie]

if youre gonna go low GO LOW there is no point in a half ass drop you will just look like a stock 2wd and thats still gay

[ilikedirt]

At least?

Commit already!!!

Your worse than a chic.:whyme:

:lol::lol::lol:

No, I meant that's what I am going to do...





:lol:

[1LOW4X4]

Well removing the block is free, but you need the shorter u-bolts. Like I said I spent 50 on them. Then 2" drop shackles are 50 bucks. Thats 100 bucks. Thats basically like a leveled 2wd. Then on the front, if you buy the purple keys new, you'll spend roughly 70 bucks. They can be had for cheaper if you can find them. So I'd say roughly 210-220 with the re-alignment included......I'd still get lower shocks for the rear though, but you can get away without them.

If you want a 4x4 that looks like a 2wd, thats your business, I'll not question you. Like I said, any questions just ask.

Oh and my truck is fully functional for my needs, it rides great, especially with the notch. My friend was behind me coming home and he commented on how smooth the truck looked going down the road.

[ilikedirt]

if youre gonna go low GO LOW there is no point in a half ass drop you will just look like a stock 2wd and thats still gay

dammit. I was thinking about that

[ilikedirt]

Well removing the block is free, but you need the shorter u-bolts. Like I said I spent 50 on them. Then 2" drop shackles are 50 bucks. Thats 100 bucks. Thats basically like a leveled 2wd. Then on the front, if you buy the purple keys new, you'll spend roughly 70 bucks. They can be had for cheaper if you can find them. So I'd say roughly 210-220 with the re-alignment included......I'd still get lower shocks for the rear though, but you can get away without them.

If you want a 4x4 that looks like a 2wd, thats your business, I'll not question you. Like I said, any questions just ask.

Oh and my truck is fully functional for my needs, it rides great, especially with the notch. My friend was behind me coming home and he commented on how smooth the truck looked going down the road.


So all that would just look like a 2wd?

I would prefer to have it noticiably lower than that...

[Stratosman]

I still can't believe a person who's been a member longer than me started a thread in a real forum section with the title:

I still cant believe im in this subforum.

That will work great in searches.

[1LOW4X4]

So all that would just look like a 2wd?

I would prefer to have it noticiably lower than that...

Yep. If you just remove the blocks in the rear and add the purple keys, you'll be about stock 2wd height. Adding the shackles just levels the rear out.

I know, at 17 it can be hard to drop 3 grand in a week on a truck...:LOL:

[fortplainman]

dang trey make up your mind:lol:

id say it isnt worth it to spend that little money. you need to save up regardless of lifting or lowering your rig and do it right.


oh did you smoke your highmount brake lamp yet?

[rebelbowtie]

I still can't believe a person who's been a member longer than me started a thread in a real forum section with the title:

I still cant believe im in this subforum.

That will work great in searches.

then add some good tags

[ilikedirt]

dang trey make up your mind:lol:

id say it isnt worth it to spend that little money. you need to save up regardless of lifting or lowering your rig and do it right.


oh did you smoke your highmount brake lamp yet?

yeah yeah...

..nah

[94383Z71]

then add some good tags

tags are, or are soon going to be non-poster changeable, only thread starter. According to misuse, "by soon to be banned members" quote by 454SS. (IMO it was the harley thread, or one like it)

as for they guy that wante dot buy the BL, come one :lol: everyone knows he hasnt made up his mind long enough to actually buy something, let alone do it

[rebelbowtie]

some people get too touchy. that thread was ridiculous though. trey i better see a post with an order list on monday

[ilikedirt]

some people get too touchy. that thread was ridiculous though. trey i better see a post with an order list on monday

I hate to say this but that order list may contain 4 nitto terra grapplers.

:dunno:

[Underpowered]

nitto terra graps? it still is a 4wd even if it is lowered, nothing wrong with graps on a lowered ride.

but get on it trey! no stalling, just do it!

[ilikedirt]

nitto terra graps? it still is a 4wd even if it is lowered, nothing wrong with graps on a lowered ride.

but get on it trey! no stalling, just do it!

I'm talking about just cranking to level and puttin some 285/65's OR 275/70's on the titans. No more plan to drop :(

[Underpowered]

why is that? dad veto the drop plan?

[1LOW4X4]

Man, what an emotional rollercoaster....You're worse than me bro.....maybe not as bad as Ray though.......

[ilikedirt]

why is that? dad veto the drop plan?

No, by the time I'd have the truck dropped like I wanted, I would have spent WAY to much than I wanted to put into de-usefulizing a truck. So I figured I could spare me the headache trying to explain to idiots why I lowered a 4WD truck.

Gregg is going to KILL ME lol

[rebelbowtie]

wow oh wow. :lol:

[1LOW4X4]

So I figured I could spare me the headache trying to explain to idiots why I lowered a 4WD truck.

Smart man. :thumbup: There's a lot of em out there.

I understand the usefullness thing too, I can haul and tow with my suburban, no need for a functional truck :LOL:

[fortplainman]

there finalized, you are saving for a lift /end thread.

[94383Z71]

there finalized, you are saving for a lift /end thread.

I like it :lol: :lol:


I'm talking about just cranking to level and puttin some 285/65's OR 275/70's on the titans. No more plan to drop :(
Atta boy


some people get too touchy. that thread was ridiculous though. trey i better see a post with an order list on monday

yeah dude, that thing got wayyy crazy. is it locked now? Agreed on the list :D

[1LOW4X4]

**** all it was was a bunch of guys stating opinions on motorcycles, you either love em or hate em. I didnt read even half that **** anyway...

[g9m3c]

:idiot:

[BHB]

:phat:

[fortplainman]

:lol:

[94383Z71]

**** all it was was a bunch of guys stating opinions on motorcycles, you either love em or hate em. I didnt read even half that **** anyway...

I read the first page, then the(at the time I first posted) last page, then didnt follow much. that was stupid

[Nickleahy23]

No, by the time I'd have the truck dropped like I wanted, I would have spent WAY to much than I wanted to put into de-usefulizing a truck. So I figured I could spare me the headache trying to explain to idiots why I lowered a 4WD truck.

Gregg is going to KILL ME lol

youve seen my threads lol..in no way with a 2/4 drop de-usfulize ur truck...

[BHB]

Gregg is going to KILL ME lol


Psst...I don't care what you do. I was just suggesting a cheaper alternative to lifting, because you want to modify your trucks suspension in some way.
It's your truck, you have to like and be happy with the mods you perform.

[94383Z71]

cmon now...you dont deserve this subforum anymore, mr.leveling :read:

[ilikedirt]

Psst...I don't care what you do. I was just suggesting a cheaper alternative to lifting, because you want to modify your trucks suspension in some way.
It's your truck, you have to like and be happy with the mods you perform.

Its just I got all hyped up and wasting your time with all my 7856727627 questions lol

but I appreciate it :cool:

[Al_96Chevy]

thank you trey :cheer:


hows the tire search comin

[ilikedirt]

tires and size has been decided. I wont reveal until pics of them on the truck

may be ordered today actually :read:

[rebelbowtie]

can we lock this up? no offense trey dont need 3 threads in three different sections about the same thing

[ilikedirt]

can we lock this up? no offense trey dont need 3 threads in three different sections about the same thing

if somebody would, please :thumbup:

[94383Z71]

can we lock this up? no offense trey dont need 3 threads in three different sections about the same thing

:lol: :lol: :lol: