Who is gonna win?

[alexmerchant]

This rich punk up at the high school has been talking **** on my truck for weeks. He SOMETIMES gets to drive his fathers 2009 Dodge Ram Quad Cab SB automatic with the 5.7 Hemi. Completely stock 4x4.

I have a 1997 GMC Sierra GT with the 5.0L vortec, 5 speed manual transmission, and 2wd. Mods include headers, exhaust, intake, and new ignition within the last 200 miles. I haven't lost to a 6.0 yet. I also hang with my buddies (the_husk) 5.7 vortec with tune, intake, and exhaust/headers.

Could I hang with him? All the **** he talks, I would be happy just to stay even with it.

[1988 GMC 355]

try it out and see.

[Koots]

There was a guy on here who had a truck that sounded similar to this guys truck. He said one night he got pulled by a basically stock vortec 5.7L truck and sold it not too long after.

So there is a chance you could, but talking trash is useless. Go show him up (do it somewhere away from the public though :nono:)

[F4MOU$]

Nope, he will have you by a long shot.

[alexmerchant]

He needs to work up the balls to race first. Too scared too in daddy's truck. I've met him on the highway before and he wouldn't.

[F4MOU$]

He needs to work up the balls to race first. Too scared too in daddy's truck. I've met him on the highway before and he wouldn't.

People like you are stupid and shouldn't have their license.

[Koots]

If you see other cars around you, it's not the place to race.

I've turned down alot of races because of people doing stupid stuff around high traffic areas.

I live in a town with an abandoned military base, so luckily there is alot of long useless roads. Find a place that has long roads, with little foot/vehicular traffic and go do it there.

[custm2500]

You will loose with almost certainty. His truck isn't too fast but your truck is much less fast. Maybe I am wrong but in my opinion you will only embarrass your self if you run him. I hope you prove me wrong but I doubt it.

[F4MOU$]

Stock 09 Hemi QCSB raced me at the track, it's my buddies truck. That thing will run cirlces around me all day long, and I know I would run circles around you. My truck runs a 16.2 at the track IIRC, he runs STOCK a 15.1. There's no way your truck runs any better then a 15.1 in a long shot.

[Outlawz2004]

You will loose with almost certainty. His truck isn't too fast but your truck is much less fast. Maybe I am wrong but in my opinion you will only embarrass your self if you run him. I hope you prove me wrong but I doubt it.

Agreed, But run it and post a video.

[alexmerchant]

Stock 09 Hemi QCSB raced me at the track, it's my buddies truck. That thing will run cirlces around me all day long, and I know I would run circles around you. My truck runs a 16.2 at the track IIRC, he runs STOCK a 15.1. There's no way your truck runs any better then a 15.1 in a long shot.

I'm definetely not running a 15.1, but I'd differ with you. I've had numerous individuals tell me that my truck feels like low-mid 15's. A friend I have on here claims he runs low 15's, and I consistently lose by a length.


On the topic of street racing, this isn't a street racing topic, nor debate. It is a theoretical encounter at a track setting.

[alexmerchant]

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/general-discussion/performance/track-dyno/354330-5-7-vortec-vs-5-7-hemi.html

The above thread is comparing stock to stock. If I completely tear up stock 5.7 vortecs, I should be able to atleast hang with the 5.7 hemi in ccsb form.

[Outlawz2004]

Quite talking about it and prove it. Bring the camara and get it done. Feeling like a 15 second truck and being a 15 second truck are two different things.

[cmcarr85]

Take it to a track and find out...

[smokinsilverado]

Go ahead and run him at the track but he is going to destroy you

[JO1995]

go ahead and run him at the track but he is going to destroy you

x2

[cmcarr85]

I didnt want to say that to him but if the other kid knows where the gas pedal is the dodge will most likely win...

[Badass69]

I was the one who owned an 09 Ram and lost to a stock Vortec 350 extended cab. Yes I hated the truck and sold it ( for more than that reason) and have a 6.2 on order now. I love the guys that talk smack so much about them being fast....... have you ever even driven one? let alone owned one? No..... it's always this same "Well my buddy's truck" bull$hit. Just like the guys that talk smack about the 9C1 Caprices..... same story. That being said it all depends on his truck. A loaded crew with 3.92 gears should run low 15's. Mine ran a 15.3 that with the DA that night corrected to a 14.9 bone stock.

Now here is the thing about the 15.3 run. My track is at 2210' above sea level. I was running 15.5's and 15.6's just hot lapping. The only way I got the 15.3 was leaving the truck with the hood open, cooling it right down and pushing it through the staging lanes. If you are both racing at a track and he is hot, aka heat soaked.... they don't do very well. Now that goes for any engine but still. If the inlet air temp jumps over the 100 F mark they quickly pull a ton of timing and dump in way too much fuel. Engine protection is what that is for. That low 15 second truck quickly becomes a mid to high 15 second turd.

My truck was a Crew cab short box 4X4 Laramie. I really doubt a 305 Vortec would outrun one but you never know. The Dodge's have absolutely no bottom end power due to torque management and the fact the 5.7 just has no low end power anyway. You have a huge weight advantage on him. Your truck is probably a good 1500 lbs lighter than his. If he has 3.55 gears he is going to suffer.. knock 2 or 3 tenths out of my times. 3.92's will give a better shot and may be enough for the win. If you had a 350 I would definetely give you the nod, but with the 305...... try and see it how it goes.

[StreetFreak]

I have a 1997 GMC Sierra GT with the 5.0L vortec, 5 speed manual transmission, and 2wd. Mods include headers, exhaust, intake, and new ignition within the last 200 miles. I haven't lost to a 6.0 yet. I also hang with my buddies (the_husk) 5.7 vortec with tune, intake, and exhaust/headers.


:think:

[Sbc_inside]

I have only rode in one 5.7 hemi truck, and it moved pretty well.

What gears do you have, and what gears does he have?

I think that and the launch will have the most to do with who wins the race.

[Stratosman]

tell his daddy that he's wanting to race his truck

[Outlawz2004]

I have only rode in one 5.7 hemi truck, and it moved pretty well.

What gears do you have, and what gears does he have?

I think that and the launch will have the most to do with who wins the race.

I think its easy to pull one on the launch, its after that when the dodge starts moving out pretty good.

[Sbc_inside]

I think its easy to pull one on the launch, its after that when the dodge starts moving out pretty good.

:word:

So if the OP can drive a 5sp well enough and gets a good jump he could have half a chance.

[alexmerchant]

I was the one who owned an 09 Ram and lost to a stock Vortec 350 extended cab. Yes I hated the truck and sold it ( for more than that reason) and have a 6.2 on order now. I love the guys that talk smack so much about them being fast....... have you ever even driven one? let alone owned one? No..... it's always this same "Well my buddy's truck" bull$hit. Just like the guys that talk smack about the 9C1 Caprices..... same story. That being said it all depends on his truck. A loaded crew with 3.92 gears should run low 15's. Mine ran a 15.3 that with the DA that night corrected to a 14.9 bone stock.

Now here is the thing about the 15.3 run. My track is at 2210' above sea level. I was running 15.5's and 15.6's just hot lapping. The only way I got the 15.3 was leaving the truck with the hood open, cooling it right down and pushing it through the staging lanes. If you are both racing at a track and he is hot, aka heat soaked.... they don't do very well. Now that goes for any engine but still. If the inlet air temp jumps over the 100 F mark they quickly pull a ton of timing and dump in way too much fuel. Engine protection is what that is for. That low 15 second truck quickly becomes a mid to high 15 second turd.

My truck was a Crew cab short box 4X4 Laramie. I really doubt a 305 Vortec would outrun one but you never know. The Dodge's have absolutely no bottom end power due to torque management and the fact the 5.7 just has no low end power anyway. You have a huge weight advantage on him. Your truck is probably a good 1500 lbs lighter than his. If he has 3.55 gears he is going to suffer.. knock 2 or 3 tenths out of my times. 3.92's will give a better shot and may be enough for the win. If you had a 350 I would definetely give you the nod, but with the 305...... try and see it how it goes.

Cool. I definetely see where you are comming from.


In all seriousness, last night I wasn't trying to be a stuck up little kid who thinks his truck is faster than everything else.

The only thing I was trying to say, was that from what I hear, you match a 5.7 hemi in automatic ccsb form with 3.55 gears, against a rscb 5.7 vortec with an automatic, and it wins over and over. What I was trying to say, is that I know that I trash stock 5.7 vortecs is rcsb form, so I was just making the correlation that I would beat this dude's truck at the track. But yah never know, maybe I'm missing something.


And for people who say "just go the the track and lemme see what you run", its not that easy. I live a good 120 miles away from a track, go to schoool 40 hours a week, and then work close to 30-35, so I don't exactly have the time.

[Outlawz2004]

Cool. I definetely see where you are comming from.


In all seriousness, last night I wasn't trying to be a stuck up little kid who thinks his truck is faster than everything else.

The only thing I was trying to say, was that from what I hear, you match a 5.7 hemi in automatic ccsb form with 3.55 gears, against a rscb 5.7 vortec with an automatic, and it wins over and over. What I was trying to say, is that I know that I trash stock 5.7 vortecs is rcsb form, so I was just making the correlation that I would beat this dude's truck at the track. But yah never know, maybe I'm missing something.


And for people who say "just go the the track and lemme see what you run", its not that easy. I live a good 120 miles away from a track, go to schoool 40 hours a week, and then work close to 30-35, so I don't exactly have the time.

They say take it to the track because its against the rules to talk about street racing here.LOL.

[jake760]

Is your truck a RCSB? Take the spare tire and hitch receiver off before you race, along with anything extra in your truck. If the Ram has 3.55 gears and 20" rims, I think you'd smoke him.

[Badass69]

Cool. I definetely see where you are comming from.


In all seriousness, last night I wasn't trying to be a stuck up little kid who thinks his truck is faster than everything else.

The only thing I was trying to say, was that from what I hear, you match a 5.7 hemi in automatic ccsb form with 3.55 gears, against a rscb 5.7 vortec with an automatic, and it wins over and over. What I was trying to say, is that I know that I trash stock 5.7 vortecs is rcsb form, so I was just making the correlation that I would beat this dude's truck at the track. But yah never know, maybe I'm missing something.


And for people who say "just go the the track and lemme see what you run", its not that easy. I live a good 120 miles away from a track, go to schoool 40 hours a week, and then work close to 30-35, so I don't exactly have the time.

No that's fine. I wasn't really directing the opening portion of the post towards you anyhow. People sometimes seem to have these dilusions of speed that just don't exist.

Now my truck really ran what the average Ram runs. I don't think I owned an anomally of any kind. Maybe the 97 I ran is an anomally..... yes the truck is 200000 miles stock and a $1500 piece of trash that is currently sitting with a grenaded 10 bolt. How does that explain the 5.3 extended cab with stock exhaust that I couldn't outrun either?

Simple. My 60' times at the track are gross. Anywhere from 2.3-2.4 seconds. This is launching from a dead idle( can't brake torque as it just gets worse, thank TM for that) in 4wd. Even in 2wd the truck couldn't break the tires loose for the life of it and the 60' times stayed the same. Down low the 5.7 makes no power whatsoever. Once it gets above about 4000 rpm then it starts pulling. It very much reminds me of a Motor Trend TV comparison of the 02 Mustang Cobra against an 02 Camaro SS. The quote was for regards to the Mustang " Once you've found the power, you've lost". Same goes here.

If you had times for your truck we could make an average comparison but you don't. I don't see a Vortec 350 powered reg cab short box 2wd ever losing to a crew cab 4X4 Ram. Yes the engine is rated at 390 hp/ 407 lb ft. But torque managed to death in a truck that weighs anywhere from 1500-2000 lbs more with the deepest gears being 3.92's, a tranny that is poorly ratioed, and 33" tall tires ( of running 20's). The 545RFE tranny basically matches the 4L60E only having 2 overdrives insetead of one. Sorry but that all counts for a lot. You saying you can outrun a 350 in your same platform..... providing you can shift that 5 speed..... maybe.

Enough bench racing though. Just line them up and find out.

[SlowAndHighTBI]

To the O.P., You could always hide a bottle of nitrous in your bed if you are that worried about it. Just keep in mind that the 5 speed tranny in your truck is a time bomb when abused. Juiced or not. You could also recommend to this kid that he should grow some balls, get a job, and race his own truck.

Badass69, I'm jelous....The truck you have on order is the EXACT truck I want!!! the SVT raptor doesn't have **** on that truck.

[daved931]

Quite talking about it and prove it. Bring the camara and get it done. Feeling like a 15 second truck and being a 15 second truck are two different things.

15 seconds in the 1/8th mile maybe. :D

[Outlawz2004]

15 seconds in the 1/8th mile maybe. :D

:LOL::LOL: Get the race over with already and post the results.

[Badass69]

Badass69, I'm jelous....The truck you have on order is the EXACT truck I want!!! the SVT raptor doesn't have **** on that truck.

Thanks. It is slated to be built the week of the 28th which means I should see it around the end of January. The test drive truck I drove which was the same configuration but a different color was impressive so I will see how this one is. I already talked to a guy about tuning it, and since it's a 2010 6.2 he wants to dyno it. It is getting long tubes as soon as I get it home.

Oh and for reference sake to the rest of the thread. That old 9C1 of mine is a good comparison. It runs quicker ET's than a crew cab 4X4 Ram. I have proven that. Why should that matter? Look at the car for a second. It has a 350 in it with the same cam, and head design as a Vortec 350 truck and nearly the exact same power curve....... it weighs about 4200 lbs, has a 4L60E and 3.08 gears and a 28" tall tire. True it can hook up more easily but I am 260 Hp/330 lb ft hampered by 3.08's and I can beat them. A 3.42 geared Vortec 350 powered truck should have no problem..... 3.73's will just make it easier if you can keep the truck from spinning......... but that will be the challenge in itself.

Results would be nice too... if it ever comes to be.

[jake760]

So did you race yet?

[desrtrat]

I haven't lost to a 6.0 yet.

you probably haven't run across the right 6.0 yet..:D
03 SS want to run..:nana:

[02SilveradoLT]

so have you run em??

[the_husk]

Just had to bring me into this didn't you?

[brutal]

you probably haven't run across the right 6.0 yet..:D
03 SS want to run..:nana:

i do i do i do:D:D

[Vortec356]

Sorry to tell ya man but hes going to win. Ive raced my moms 5.7 hemi when i had my old 305. Got me by a few lengths. It wasnt a 4x4 though but i still think hes got ya.

[reesez]

ok, i raced my buddies hemi at school on friday. his is a RCSB 4wd. mine is my 2dr yukon 4wd. he woooooooped me. i had him off the line but he caught up and kept goin. did it for fun cuz we were bored.
u should really stop worrying whos gonna beat your truck. of course your pride is prolly wrapped up in it too.

[Maverick88]

Never ridden in the dodge. I hate it when punks like that say "My DADS truck is faster than yours." I couldn't give a crap about your dads truck that HE payed for because he has a big boy job. Tell him to race his own frikkin truck and shut his fat mouth about daddys toys.

[94_c/1500]

Tell him to man up and race his Yugo, or whatever POS he actually drives. Even if his dad's truck can run circles around yours, it dosn't matter.

[StreetFreak]

Just get the race over with, dont bet any money on it because more than likely your gonna get smoked.

[SilveradoSexy]

Street racing talk is prohibited on here.

[TheBigBlackHD]

I pwnd a Hemi a few months ago, but I dont think the 90 year old black man new I was tryin to race him :dunno:

[94_c/1500]

I driven and rode in an '03 Ram 2500 Heavy Duty CCSB. I think its safe to say its faster than a 305 OBS.

[yz80wheeler]

I driven and rode in an '03 Ram 2500 Heavy Duty CCSB. I think its safe to say its faster than a 305 OBS.

My truck is a 350 vortec ECSB, and I barely beat the same truck. He has an exhaust, and CAI. I have a true duals set-up (hate it,) and a drop in filter. I tie with 5.3's most of the time, but it depends on motor mods to the 5.3. Do you think a CCSB half ton hemi could beat a 5.3? Do you think a tbi 305 could beat a vortec 350? I don't think you're gonna win personally.

[94_c/1500]

I'm racing a buddy in April. But he isn't using his dad's truck. Its going to be a RCLB 2wd OBS race.

[whitelightnin92]

you guys better be careful talking about street racing unless you want to get banned. i suggest you guys edit some of your posts before the wrong person sees them

[whitelightnin92]

I'm racing a buddy in April. But he isn't using his dad's truck. Its going to be a RCLB 2wd OBS race.

v6 or 305 350 ?? what is it?

[94_c/1500]

In post #46, I'm talking about an actual track. Its an 1/8 mile track by the river off of Route 35.

[whitelightnin92]

In post #46, I'm talking about an actual track. Its an 1/8 mile track by the river off of Route 35.

i wasnt targeting you.

[94_c/1500]

v6 or 305 350 ?? what is it?

I think you already know what I'm running.
His truck is an '89 305. The only modification is the exhaust. True duals, no cats, and glass packs. It has a problem when it starts, acts like a carb with a bad choke. Its also running 265/75R15 tires, but on aluminum rims.

I think it should be close.

[F4MOU$]

you guys better be careful talking about street racing unless you want to get banned. i suggest you guys edit some of your posts before the wrong person sees them

Who cares, less retards on this forum then. There doing us a favor.

[94_c/1500]

I think the taller tires might kill his chances. I don't know what gears it has, but it seems like 3.42s and it has a 4L60.

[StreetFreak]

I'm racing a buddy in April. But he isn't using his dad's truck. Its going to be a RCLB 2wd OBS race.

:think:

[94_c/1500]

:think:

Just saying we aren't racing our dad's trucks.

[brutal]

Who cares, less retards on this forum then. There doing us a favor.

:word:

[StreetFreak]

Just saying we aren't racing our dad's trucks.

What does it matter?

[whitelightnin92]

Who cares, less retards on this forum then. There doing us a favor.

good point

[yz80wheeler]

you guys better be careful talking about street racing unless you want to get banned. i suggest you guys edit some of your posts before the wrong person sees them

I wasn't speaking of street racing. I had a convoy with a few friends up to a track in Ennis, Tx.

[whitelightnin92]

I wasn't speaking of street racing. I had a convoy with a few friends up to a track in Ennis, Tx.

shure you did.

[Outlawz2004]

I wasn't speaking of street racing. I had a convoy with a few friends up to a track in Ennis, Tx.

So you should have time slips or videos of these said races where your smoking hemis and 5.3s.

[whitelightnin92]

So you should have time slips or videos of these said races where your smoking hemis and 5.3s.

:LOL: he could easily find a timeslip to show us on the www

[Outlawz2004]

:LOL: he could easily find a timeslip to show us on the www

I typed alot more but edited it to save an argument on my previous post.LOL. bench racers never win, they only believe the crap their spewing, run it or STFU.

[whitelightnin92]

I typed alot more but edited it to save an argument on my previous post.LOL. bench racers never win, they only believe the crap their spewing, run it or STFU.

X2. i have my track times in my sig. theyre not fast at all, but im proud of what ive got. it is what it is and i dont make up a bunch of bs.

[yz80wheeler]

That's not the truck I run anymore. I drive a 2006 ccsb hemi. It's got 3.92's. Do you think a 5.3 can beat me? I haven't had a chance to hit the track.

[TheBigBlackHD]

That's not the truck I run anymore. I drive a 2006 ccsb hemi. It's got 3.92's. Do you think a 5.3 can beat me? I haven't had a chance to hit the track.

Yes, seen it. ECSB 03 Z71 stock with flowmasters vs 06 CCSB Hemi on 20s and stock as far as I know. 5.3 handed it its ass, granted the Hemi spun through first. Now if the Hemi kept traction I'm sure the story would have been the other way. But I only saw em make 1 run (1/8th mile) 10.498 to 10.554, only time I saw em race the whole night, the Hemi sat for an hour or 2 with the hood up. My 04 6.0 has walked one from a 30 roll but didnt touch it from a dig. I walked him back down but by time I did I was at 98mph and said fvck it.

[yz80wheeler]

Yes, seen it. ECSB 03 Z71 stock with flowmasters vs 06 CCSB Hemi on 20s and stock as far as I know. 5.3 handed it its ass, granted the Hemi spun through first. Now if the Hemi kept traction I'm sure the story would have been the other way. But I only saw em make 1 run (1/8th mile) 10.498 to 10.554, only time I saw em race the whole night, the Hemi sat for an hour or 2 with the hood up. My 04 6.0 has walked one from a 30 roll but didnt touch it from a dig. I walked him back down but by time I did I was at 98mph and said fvck it.
I believe the 6.0 could walk him. Bad ass motor. But I'm pretty sure I could beat the 5.3's around. People are bad about good maintaining their trucks here. I'm really happy with this hemi though. It's got the dms and I'm ditching the 20's for some lightweight 18's or 17's and a 3/5 drop at the lowest. I expect some decent results with a good tune. There aren't any 6.0's that race here. I've never raced one. Just rode in my friends dads. His dad was a hot rodder In his younger days.

[Outlawz2004]

I believe the 6.0 could walk him. Bad ass motor. But I'm pretty sure I could beat the 5.3's around. People are bad about good maintaining their trucks here. I'm really happy with this hemi though. It's got the dms and I'm ditching the 20's for some lightweight 18's or 17's and a 3/5 drop at the lowest. I expect some decent results with a good tune. There aren't any 6.0's that race here. I've never raced one. Just rode in my friends dads. His dad was a hot rodder In his younger days.

Well why not, if your other truck was beating everything, I am sure your keyboard will allow you to continue beating everything with your new truck.:patriot:

[TheBigBlackHD]

I believe the 6.0 could walk him. Bad ass motor. But I'm pretty sure I could beat the 5.3's around. People are bad about good maintaining their trucks here. I'm really happy with this hemi though. It's got the dms and I'm ditching the 20's for some lightweight 18's or 17's and a 3/5 drop at the lowest. I expect some decent results with a good tune. There aren't any 6.0's that race here. I've never raced one. Just rode in my friends dads. His dad was a hot rodder In his younger days.

My 6.0 has no ass off the line, but 2nd and 3rd are beast mode and I can usually catch up to whatever got me off the line, from a roll I've only been spanked by a bone stock 09 Tacoma 4.0 4x4 and it was BAD!

[Outlawz2004]

My 6.0 has no ass off the line, but 2nd and 3rd are beast mode and I can usually catch up to whatever got me off the line, from a roll I've only been spanked by a bone stock 09 Tacoma 4.0 4x4 and it was BAD!

If he beat you from a roll, dont try the tacoma from a dead stop. They have a fast 0-60. I beat one pretty bad a while back, but he took out two stock 5.3s, a stock 6.0 denali, and a stock hemi ram.

[TheBigBlackHD]

If he beat you from a roll, dont try the tacoma from a dead stop. They have a fast 0-60. I beat one pretty bad a while back, but he took out two stock 5.3s, a stock 6.0 denali, and a stock hemi ram.

The guy that drives the Tacoma is my best friend. He had an 01 Taco 2.7 or 2.9 which ever it was, my 5.3 would walk all over. Then I got my 6.0 and it was even worse. Now he has the 09 4.0 and the tables have turned. I've raced him at least 100 times and that truck is just plain nasty. Its all i good fun.

[Outlawz2004]

Yeah, that little 4.0 is no joke for a stock truck.

[whitelightnin92]

the 3.4 was no joke, so i can only imagine what the 4.0 will do.

[yz80wheeler]

Well why not, if your other truck was beating everything, I am sure your keyboard will allow you to continue beating everything with your new truck.:patriot:

You take my words out of context. I beat a 5.3 by a length from 30. He was bone stock and I have small mods. I tied with another 5.3. I beat a hemi 3/4 ton by a length. I beat a slightly modded 4.8 by a length and a diesel with a built tranny a cai and a magnaflow 4" by two. Where do people get that I smoked a 5.3? I can't smoke a 5.3. I can nearly beat some of them and tie with alot of them. I never said this truck was an unbeatable 350. It's beatable. I've been beat.

This website has alot of useful
information. But there are alot of jackasses too! Like that guy with the orange truck. I hate him.

[stepsidedelight]

this thread is full of :fail:

[whitelightnin92]

You take my words out of context. I beat a 5.3 by a length from 30. He was bone stock and I have small mods. I tied with another 5.3. I beat a hemi 3/4 ton by a length. I beat a slightly modded 4.8 by a length and a diesel with a built tranny a cai and a magnaflow 4" by two.



so your dragstrip lets you race from a 30 mph roll on? yeah right. and dragstrips use times, not car legths. unless your on PINKS or something.

[stepsidedelight]

this thread should be deleted. reason :fail:

[94_c/1500]

this thread should be deleted. reason :fail:

Is post FAIL all you do?

[whitelightnin92]

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[stepsidedelight]

no but if u :read: u will be enlightened. you have..(clears throat) :fail:ed

[stepsidedelight]

:fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::f ail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fai l::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail:


lmao

[whitelightnin92]

:lol:

[whitelightnin92]

:fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::f ail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fai l::fail::fail::fail::fail:

:read: ^^^