View Full Version : looking to buy a camaro !but what one ?
mcquay1975
01-27-2011, 07:40 AM
what camaro should i buy i was one that gets about 26 mpg or better . and witch one is the better ones to buy ? i was thinking about the 1990 modles with the v six motor but i dont know much about them so what do you guys think about witch is the best
07Burb
01-27-2011, 07:48 AM
You might go to a Camaro forum for this question as you're more likely to get more replies and better answers. I've always loved the 1st gen camaro but I know you're not looking for that because I doubt you'd want to DD a 1st gen.
tylerz281500
01-27-2011, 08:09 AM
the closest v6 fbody that gets 26 mpg is from 98-02. they had the 3800 series 2in them. if your looking into the 93-97's they had a 3400which had bad head angles and nothing flowed well with those cars, but its still a strong eninge. and advantage of the 99-02 is that they had second gear start do you press a button and it starts you in second. also those two years variations had different interiors as well
someotherguy
01-27-2011, 08:10 AM
If you want MPG from an older Camaro, buy something else. The earlier models with the 2.8 V6 aren't worth owning - terrible engine. 1990 introduced the 3.1 which is better, but still,...Idunno. I can't see myself intentionally buying a V6 Camaro.
For more complete info try thirdgen.org (1982-1992 models)
Richard
07Burb
01-27-2011, 08:11 AM
I've heard of some of the 6 speed Z28 cars getting 28 MPG on the highway as well. What are you looking to spend?
ericlw
01-27-2011, 08:16 AM
people who buy a camaro and worry about gas mileage make me laugh almost as much as people with huge trucks and they complain about the gas mileage.
07Burb
01-27-2011, 08:17 AM
people who buy a camaro and worry about gas mileage make me laugh almost as much as people with huge trucks and they complain about the gas mileage.
:word: I don't even understand the point of a Camaro with a V6 and the same goes for Mustangs, too.
Camaro w/V6 = Girl's car...
Stratosman
01-27-2011, 08:30 AM
LS1's get 26 on the highway in SS's all the time don't they?
07Burb
01-27-2011, 08:50 AM
LS1's get 26 on the highway in SS's all the time don't they?
I'm not sure 'all the time' is the right term for that but when you're not on the throttle and you're just cruising it down the highway I've had a few buddies claim that kinda gas mileage before.
tylerz281500
01-27-2011, 10:27 AM
ls1's get high 20's on highway but city is more like 22 ish or high 10's, the 2.8 was a great engine but slow its predocessor the 3.1 was a leak monster, nothing sealed up correctly. your best bet for a v6 camaro or firebird is the 3800 in 98-02's. they get decent power and good gas, and its easy to mod them to make them better if you like doing that. the ls1 ss cars were nothing special in performance btw it was just an apperance package
89-Z71
01-27-2011, 11:11 AM
I have three Camaros, and they all do pretty well. My 88 305 TPI 5 speed gets 21 in combination/26 highway, 93 Z28 A4 gets 17 combination/ 27 highway, and my 97 Z28 M6 gets 19 combination/ and 28 Highway. The V6 cars aren't that much better and not as much fun. The 93-97 LT1 cars are pretty cheap right now and have a much better platform than the 82-92 for daily driving IMO.
97scsb
01-27-2011, 11:17 AM
5th gen? 300+ hp and 29 mpg? Or just buy a 2011 Mustang 5.0, get 412 hp, 26 mpg and blow the camaro out of the water.. just saying. LOL im biased
tylerz281500
01-27-2011, 03:00 PM
yeah for a dd youd want a 4th or 5th gen fbody, thirdgens are almost boat like and not difficult to drive but its not easy either
silverado_lover
01-27-2011, 03:08 PM
I've never understood how a car could be difficult to drive :think:
I mean maybe if the clutch just straight sucks then I get that but just cause the way the car handles? Luckily a human can adapt to what they need to do...in most cases
Ghostyman25
01-27-2011, 04:05 PM
5th gen? 300+ hp and 29 mpg? Or just buy a 2011 Mustang 5.0, get 412 hp, 26 mpg and blow the camaro out of the water.. just saying. LOL im biased
A comparison of a v6 and v8 doesnt count. :read:
I've never understood how a car could be difficult to drive :think:
I mean maybe if the clutch just straight sucks then I get that but just cause the way the car handles? Luckily a human can adapt to what they need to do...in most cases
Ive driven my brothers 02 camaro with the 3.8,theres nothing to it. Well unless your short..im 5' 11" and could barely see the hood. Personally if you want mpg's and some fun then go 6 speed SS. Itll get about the same mpg as the 5 speed v6. Definately dont go beyond TPI,carbed ones ive heard usually only pull high teens. Ive always wanted an 86-92 with a 5 speed and TPI 305.
RustyCrustyGMC
01-27-2011, 04:07 PM
www.thirdgen.org I had a 91 z28 and 25 mpg was not out of the question.... it was a great car and can be had relatively cheap these days. no need to go with a v6 in a car like a camaro or mustang...
tylerz281500
01-27-2011, 06:54 PM
i mean going from a fuel injected every optioned newer car to an ld 85 z28 its definitely an adaptive state. i get 21 highway on my poorly running built carb'd 305 with 3.08 gears in the back
97scsb
01-27-2011, 09:31 PM
the 5.0 runs circles around the SS camaro as well. sorry that wasnt specified.
scottsdale76
01-27-2011, 09:50 PM
gas milage and camaro are two things thatshould never be in the same sentence...v6 camaros make god kill kittens
Ghostyman25
01-28-2011, 01:13 AM
the 5.0 runs circles around the SS camaro as well. sorry that wasnt specified.
Some of them,the new Camaros have different SS versions now. Not to knock the mustang,if i had to have one it would definately be a new glass top one.
v6 camaros make god kill kittens
So true..so very true...
4th gen V8 Camaro with a 6 speed. Both the LT1 and the LS1 will get close to 30 mpg highway with the 6 speed. And the V8 will actually get out of its own way and be a fun car. A V6 Camaro is a slow chick car.
Ghostyman25
01-29-2011, 04:51 AM
4th gen V8 Camaro with a 6 speed. Both the LT1 and the LS1 will get close to 30 mpg highway with the 6 speed. And the V8 will actually get out of its own way and be a fun car. A V6 Camaro is a slow chick car.
Just like a v6 pickup is a slow chick truck :read: .
rebelbowtie
01-29-2011, 05:03 AM
Stupid 6 cylinder engines
Just like a v6 pickup is a slow chick truck :read: .
Im not even gonna argue with that. I hate 4.3 trucks. Wish I had waited to find a 4.8 5 speed truck.
07Burb
01-29-2011, 02:56 PM
...Wish I had waited to find a 4.8 5 speed truck.
Not exactly shooting for the stars there are ya??? I don't like the 4.3 or 4.8 but I sure as the world am not going lower than a 5.3 L motor unless I'm getting one heck of a deal on it. 4.8 L motor is pretty gutless unless you throw some money into it and mod it.
Not exactly shooting for the stars there are ya??? I don't like the 4.3 or 4.8 but I sure as the world am not going lower than a 5.3 L motor unless I'm getting one heck of a deal on it. 4.8 L motor is pretty gutless unless you throw some money into it and mod it.
They didnt put an NV3500 behind a 5.3. Only the 4.3 and 4.8. And a RCSB 4.8 5 speed truck is a lot more fun to drive than any 5.3 auto truck. Doesnt matter, Im not wasting my time swapping in any LS engine in this truck, its getting a Vortec 350 when the 4.3 dies.
Oh, and theres only like a 15hp difference between the 4.8 and 5.3. Far from being gutless imo.
07Burb
01-29-2011, 03:03 PM
:thumbup:
silverado_lover
01-29-2011, 03:24 PM
They didnt put an NV3500 behind a 5.3. Only the 4.3 and 4.8. And a RCSB 4.8 5 speed truck is a lot more fun to drive than any 5.3 auto truck. Doesnt matter, Im not wasting my time swapping in any LS engine in this truck, its getting a Vortec 350 when the 4.3 dies.
Oh, and theres only like a 15hp difference between the 4.8 and 5.3. Far from being gutless imo.
Why not LS? Cam+Stall=:burn: :D
I owned a 95 Camaro with the 3.4L. The car was definitely not a speed demon but would get 24-26 mpgs all day long. All interstate or 65 mph highway driving it would get 28+. I owned the car from 2000 with 59,000 miles on it until May 2010 when it had 235,000 on it. I really had no problems with the car...I changed the oil every 5000 miles and changed the tranny fluid and filter every 50,000 miles. At 200,000 miles it ran hot due to a leaky intake gasket and I spent $1000 to buy and install a junk 3.4L with <75000 miles. When I sold it the car was running great and still had the original tranny, converter, rear, struts, etc. I know a V6 Camaro is a chick car but I needed something that looked decent, got decent fuel mileage, and wasn't killer on insurance while I was in college.
I would recommend the 3.4L or 3.8L engines....so anything in the 4th gen will be fine. You'll probably have to stay 98 or newer just so it doesn't have 200,000+ on it. $3500 is probably all a decent 3.8L Camaro is worth so don't overpay. Good luck.
rebelbowtie
01-29-2011, 04:16 PM
They didnt put an NV3500 behind a 5.3. Only the 4.3 and 4.8. And a RCSB 4.8 5 speed truck is a lot more fun to drive than any 5.3 auto truck. Doesnt matter, Im not wasting my time swapping in any LS engine in this truck, its getting a Vortec 350 when the 4.3 dies.
Oh, and theres only like a 15hp difference between the 4.8 and 5.3. Far from being gutless imo.
I wish you had bought a 4.8 also so you wouldnt have to ruin it with antiquated engine
Ghostyman25
01-29-2011, 05:10 PM
Why not LS? Cam+Stall=:burn: :D
I can tell you not a stall because he has a 5 speed. :lol:
Why not LS? Cam+Stall=:burn: :D
Hard to put a converter in a 5 speed truck :lol: And no LS because the 350 will be an easier swap. An LS engine and T56 will go in place of the dead LT1 and 4L60e in my Camaro though....with a carb :looking:
I wish you had bought a 4.8 also so you wouldnt have to ruin it with antiquated engine
So youre gonna blame a 350 swap on what ruined my truck? :lol: This truck is almost to the point where Im gonna make it strictly a trail rig.
rebelbowtie
01-29-2011, 06:30 PM
Yes :looking:
silverado_lover
01-29-2011, 07:27 PM
Hard to put a converter in a 5 speed truck
:think: No it's not. Open the door place on seat
:think: No it's not. Open the door place on seat
Ok, Ill throw the 3k stall out of the Camaro in the cab of the truck :lol:
silverado_lover
01-29-2011, 07:34 PM
:fsc1:
tylerz281500
01-29-2011, 07:51 PM
im soo lost, is there a new way to put a stall in a manual from the inside of a car, i thought both were impossible......but hey im a kid what do i know
silverado_lover
01-29-2011, 08:06 PM
nothing
im soo lost, is there a new way to put a stall in a manual from the inside of a car, i thought both were impossible......but hey im a kid what do i know
No...the only standard shift with a converter is a LencoDrive that goes in many Pro-Modified type race cars. You can't run one in anything else.
tylerz281500
01-30-2011, 08:45 AM
i know i was being sarcastic, i thought the beforementioned statements were humorous
84_K10Guy
02-26-2011, 08:37 AM
Buddy of mine has a 35th Anniversary V6 Camaro, but I don't know what kind of mileage he gets with it because he hardly ever drives it. But from what I've been told, his dad got about 25ish on the Interstate. Then again, his dad is well known in our circle for having a lead foot too, so mileage may vary.
Ghastlyone
02-26-2011, 08:45 AM
5th gen? 300+ hp and 29 mpg? Or just buy a 2011 Mustang 5.0, get 412 hp, 26 mpg and blow the camaro out of the water.. just saying. LOL im biased
Yeah let's finance $40,000 for a car to save money on gas. That makes sense.
07Burb
02-26-2011, 02:20 PM
Yeah let's finance $40,000 for a car to save money on gas. That makes sense.
:word:
07Burb
02-26-2011, 02:21 PM
Buddy of mine has a 35th Anniversary V6 Camaro, but I don't know what kind of mileage he gets with it because he hardly ever drives it. But from what I've been told, his dad got about 25ish on the Interstate. Then again, his dad is well known in our circle for having a lead foot too, so mileage may vary.
V6 Camaro FTL!! :whyme: Lead foot don't matter when you're driving a girls car :dunno:
V6 Camaro FTL!! :whyme: Lead foot don't matter when you're driving a girls car :dunno:
:word: :lol:
Besides, you can get just as good of gas mileage out of a V8 6 speed Camaro as you can with a V6 Camaro, but you would actually have some power and you wont be driving a girls car.
07Burb
02-26-2011, 02:31 PM
:word: :lol:
Besides, you can get just as good of gas mileage out of a V8 6 speed Camaro as you can with a V6 Camaro, but you would actually have some power and you wont be driving a girls car.
:word:
nick613
02-26-2011, 06:09 PM
:word: I don't even understand the point of a Camaro with a V6 and the same goes for Mustangs, too.
Camaro w/V6 = Girl's car...
Yep, especially the mustangs
Mean Green 1
02-26-2011, 06:25 PM
:word: :lol:
Besides, you can get just as good of gas mileage out of a V8 6 speed Camaro as you can with a V6 Camaro, but you would actually have some power and you wont be driving a girls car.
:word: But i think the biggest factor for some buyers, is the price difference between a 4th Gen V6/60e car and 4th Gen V8/T56 car. I mean its more then a little little difference in price. lol Personally I've never owned a Camaro that didn't have a 305 or 350 in, and i never would own a camaro without a V8 under the hood. Go find a 98+ 4th gen SS, that's where it's at :read:
MrGoodtime
02-27-2011, 09:04 AM
I don't care what anyone says, mustangs in general are girls cars, maybe not the fox-bodies but i swear to god it's like every girl's favorite car, as well as every idiot's.
Oh and I mean, chevrolet fans have their fair share of idiots but when it comes to mustangs it's ridiculous.
I mean I love Camaros don't get me wrong but I've heard so much crap about the LT1, mainly about the optispark and the waterpumps going bad, although some of the engine swaps in this forum make me think otherwise, but i don't know. still, i wouldn't be caught dead in a V6 camaro, so it's really up in the air.
Mean Green 1
02-27-2011, 12:12 PM
I don't care what anyone says, mustangs in general are girls cars, ESPECIALLY the fox-bodies but i swear to god it's like every girl's favorite car, as well as every idiot's.
:word: ^^^ fixed^^ Those damn fox body mustangs, IMO, are the poorest excuse for a mustang ford ever built. I mean they didn't even look like a performance oreintated car. I have never liked any mustang, regardless of the year. And the newer models, it seems like you only see women and wimpy guys driving em.
97scsb
03-24-2011, 06:00 PM
Show me a girl that REALLY likes a fox body mustang, and unless she's driving it, Ill show you a liar. Theyre ugly no doubt, but have some of the best performance potential, especially drag racing. Lightweight, V8... Aftermarket support is there. I love a first or second gen camaro, but I wish I had a dollar for everytime I wanted to run a 5th gen on the interstate, pull up, and it be some girl or middle aged woman.... I could mod my 2010 gt to the moon and back... Girls like sports cars, and tons of them drive mustangs too. No denying that, but most ride V6s... Plus we all know which was America's first, favorite, and original pony car...
robotic_junky
03-26-2011, 04:01 PM
Plus we all know which was America's first, favorite, and original pony car...
Pontiac GTO, right?
I have to agree with what the majority of people are saying. Go with the V8. I had my experience with the 3.1 V6 that was in my Firebird. The motor ran good and took a beating, but gas mileage was not good even when taking it easy. The 355 TPI that got put in the car got around 20 MPG average, but might have gotten better if the motor would have been tuned.
Can't go wrong with the LS1 in the late 4th gen. F-bodies.
97scsb
03-27-2011, 10:42 AM
no. the gto was the first MUSCLE CAR. Mustang was the first pony car. theres a difference. GTO was a real full size chassis with room for 5 and had a V8, manual transmission, etc. Mustangs were built off the falcon/compact chassis with room for 4, optional V8s and manual/automatic transmissions... Im not a big 4th gen camaro fan, they just looked weird. honestly, nothing would seem more perfect for a small project than a 3rd gen TPI 350, if you can find one, albeit in good condition as well. gas mileage is alot to do with just the way you drive. however, 5th gens dont look bad either, just not my style. 426/400 horsepower and up to 25-26 with their double overdrive transmissions sounds good to me!
BurbanAZ
03-27-2011, 07:27 PM
yea dont get a v6 camaro, i had a 2000 v6 for a long time it was a good reliable car but everyday you will just wish that you got the v8. The v6 doesnt get much more mpg and just alot less power with less options to modify it. Some hate them but i really like the 4th gens with the ls1, 93-97 had the lt1 which was good but id pick the ls1 if i had the choice. If your set on getting a v6 id go with the 3.8l which is 98-02, from 93-97 it had the 3.4. Trust me though get a v8 if you have the option.
robotic_junky
03-27-2011, 07:55 PM
If your set on getting a v6 id go with the 3.8l which is 98-02, from 93-97 it had the 3.4. Trust me though get a v8 if you have the option.
3.4 V6 was 93-mid 95 and 3.8 was mid 95-02. I don't know why they did it that way, even through the body was the same from 93-97 and then 98-02.
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