Truxx torsion keys

[narizon]

SOLD New,never installed. Ford keys can be used to raise the front end of your NBS 4x4 GM truck. 2" to 3" max lift.Research for your Model/Year
Were meant for '97-'04 Ford F150's $70 shipped
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[narizon]

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[Sasquatchs SWB]

How much shipped to 37066?

[narizon]

Still,$70 shipped to your door. (37066) Tennessee

[rev35]

Will these help me to level out my 00 4x4?

[1978steven]

Will these help me to level out my 00 4x4?

Seen as how "stock" Ford F-150 torsion keys will allow you to level 99-07 NBS GM 1500's, I'm not too sure what torsion keys intended to level a Ford F-150 would do on your truck. Unless someone else know for sure...

[narizon]

The keys will work for your'e 00 as long it's a 1/2 ton.Ford uses the same torsion bar design with the EXCAT same hex head. The keys are exactly the same dimensions except the indexing is different. A ford key is indexed more than either the green or purple keys. This means when you put it in a GM truck it allows the torsion bars to be cranked further up. This works on both half ton and HD trucks BUT since the purple key is the least indexed you will never be able to get the Ford key to load in a HD truck, its just too indexed. If you did get it to load your CV, it wouldn’t be derivable.

[rev35]

The keys will work for your'e 00 as long it's a 1/2 ton.Ford uses the same torsion bar design with the EXCAT same hex head. The keys are exactly the same dimensions except the indexing is different. A ford key is indexed more than either the green or purple keys. This means when you put it in a GM truck it allows the torsion bars to be cranked further up. This works on both half ton and HD trucks BUT since the purple key is the least indexed you will never be able to get the Ford key to load in a HD truck, its just too indexed. If you did get it to load your CV, it wouldn’t be derivable.

I am a complete noob when it comes to lifting anything. All I have ever owned is lowered and bagged trucks. So if I install this set of keys I can crank my t-bars enough to level out with the back of the truck and keep my cv angles drivable?

[narizon]

On stock gm keys you will have to crank the bolts all the way to achieve full lift.That's sort of risky because your suspension will hate you very very soon.By using keys with different indexing you can achieve at least 3" of lift to level out your truck.Like said above,will work with '00-'07 HALF TONS only.The different angle of the key will allow you to safely level your ride without cranking your bolts all the way up & keep your suspension travel normal,you will also have to compensate for the higher lift with longer shocks,if you keep your regular shocks you will have suspension problems soon..............

[Quyonmob]

Bullchit on keys helping front suspensions angles. I know this is a for sale thread, but bs is bs.

Keys do the exact same as cranking, they just let you go even further.

GLWS, and good luck with physics.

[tahoe 9955]

listen to Quyonmob he knows what hes talking about

[1978steven]

I am a complete noob when it comes to lifting anything. All I have ever owned is lowered and bagged trucks. So if I install this set of keys I can crank my t-bars enough to level out with the back of the truck and keep my cv angles drivable?

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Bullchit on keys helping front suspensions angles. I know this is a for sale thread, but bs is bs.

Keys do the exact same as cranking, they just let you go even further.

GLWS, and good luck with physics.

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[narizon]

Wouldn't want to have a problem with anyone here on the forum especially one with high respect.Were all entitled to our own opinion & personal hands on experience/knowledge.

Ford keys will let you crank less to achieve lift because of the different angle/index of the hole the bar goes into thus being able to level out a front end.On my last Chevy truck I used Ford keys,decently cranked to get 2 1/2",a decent ride & never a problem.Leveled out my truck & looked good.

Hears my take on keys,all Keys have a hex shaped hole that the torsion bar goes on. How this hole is indexed effects how much you can turn the adjusting bolt before the key bottoms out or run out of bolt.Different keys have different index, which allows some bars be adjusted further. Different hex heads on some the bars don’t line up with one another, and some bars are different.Most bars on a half ton trucks are about the same and all bars on an HD trucks also. Half ton trucks have green keys in them and the HD trucks the purple keys. They are called so because when new they have a green/purple marks on them. After some use rust kicks in & they cant be identified unless you know what truck came out of.Ford uses the same bar design with the same hex head just different indexing.The Ford key is indexed more than the green or purple keys. This means when installed in GM trucks,the bars to be cranked further up. This works on half ton's.On HD trucks it's to indexed, wouldn't be derivable.The green keys are indexed less than ford keys but more than purple, so they work the same way as the Ford keys do on the half tons.

[Quyonmob]

Keys=equal crank. I'm well aware of the colour codes applied to various keys, and the different indexing associated with them.

Turning the bolt re-indexes the operating angle of the LCA, keys just start further indexed and let you go further. The only way torsion bars can give lift is by increasing the LCA angle, keys and crank accomplish this exactly the same, keys just let you go further. No matter how you achive x" of lift (be it 1" or 3"), buy using only keys or cranking stock keys, the results are EXACTLY the same in respect to ride quality and all suspension angles.

Increased LCA angle is the source of the rougher ride, nothing to do with how far the bolt is turned. As you increase LCA angle, the road forces lose leverage over the torsion bar, making the spring feel stiffer.

How you get torsion lift is irrelevant, be it keys or crank, the resulting side effects are the same, and vary only based on the amount of lift (and pursuant LCA angle), not how it was acheived.

That being said, GMT400 trucks have no use for aftermarket keys, the stock ones allow adjustment to excessive operating levels. GMT800's generally require keys to acheive level, as the stock keys only allow 1" (or around there) before they bottom out. Installing a aftermarket or OE ford key will allow that 1" to be extended to 3" (or more), but more than 2" is going to have negative effects on front suspension, steering, and CV durability/longevity.

I'll likely put OE ford keys in my GMT800, as I have an AAL in the rear and the stock keys only gave me 1" before bottoming out, and I would like another 1/2" to almost level it, but I wont run more than 1.5" of crank (or crank+keys, or keys, as it is all the same).