Major Changes before Heatwave comp. What ya think?

[BogeyBoy82]

So had my first Db run this weekend. It was 101 degrees outside and my externally regulated alternator which can do 16 volts was only putting out a constant 12.1 volts...but i was kinda disapointed in my db score of 142.5....my box is not made for db at all though. It is esentially only 3 10's the way its setup (hard to explain)...a very "SQ" box... and everyone was hitting low db scores that day...anyways... heres the changes

New Box...3 Image Dynamics IDMAX 12's...another alpine 1507 (one for each sub)...and 2 more Optima Yellow Top Batteries... Basically same look as the box I have now...but not ported...it still have the plexi idea incorportated...but instead of seeing 3 more subs like you do now...you'll see the IDMAXs badass magnets... with a buncha neon...oh yeah...box is going to be reversed...so when you look in back hatch you see window of the box with magnets and when you fold down seat you'll see subs...What do yall think of my plan...tired of having just a truck taht sounds great but hits "decent"...i think what I have will push 144 db on a good day... but...I want something where it both sounds great and can kill you if you sit in the car too long..hehe..

New amp will be in the new top pieces of my setup im building under plexi and on lexan like the rest of them..but its all gonna be alot more curvy and wrapped in matching vinyl...

[cxpcman]

that gonna be cool :rocking: some people will die after you turn on the stereo :D

[TribalVision]

you have too much money.. But it will sound good....:D

[DemoN]

Originally posted by Tribal Vision
you have too much money.. But it will sound good....:D

:word: i wouldn't mind having that kinda crazy cash:read: :D

[mood_indigo]

Originally posted by DemoN


:word: i wouldn't mind having that kinda crazy cash:read: :D

what are you talking about mr. iboughtwheelsandtiresthatdonttuckbu****noproblemca useilljustbuymorelater :read: :D

[BogeyBoy82]

yeah the money issue is a big issue now...cus the way i see it.... subs are what i can get them for $250 each....plus...another amp... plus alota more materials...and then...im payin my installer/roomate 750 bucks to do the whole thing including the building, wiring, paint and body work...which is damn cheap

[BogeyBoy82]

yeah the money issue is a big issue now...cus the way i see it.... subs are what i can get them for $250 each....plus...another amp... plus alota more materials...and then...im payin my installer/roomate 750 bucks to do the whole thing including the building, wiring, paint and body work...which is damn cheap... we'll see when it happens....but hopefully before heatwave...

[BogeyBoy82]

sorry for the double post....my computer is acting funky..

[cxpcman]

my wallet is empty ... do you want to put some money there ??

[00Silverado]

I think that will be a sweet setup:D Should sound pretty nice too. As usual, if you do it, get pics:read:

[BogeyBoy82]

I was listenin to my stereo earlier...i mean...not to brag but you could put on an AM radio station and it would sound alot better than alot of guys "systems" but the problem...is I'm never satisfied with it...I've sat in the loudest truck in the world..and the best sounding car in the world...literally...at world finals... and its just...i dunno..everyday..i wanna start over from scratch..but at the same time...i need to know when enough is enough...my wallet is running dry...and im tryin to get back to being broke (in debt)... Anyone know a loan shark in the houston area?..haha...this project might be delayed b/c of a top secret purchase that might be happening very very soon...ill keep yall posted....this is soooo playa....haha...updated pics will be up very soon..last weekend we made a new fuse box under the hood outa lexan and plexi..its freaaakin baddd asssss...soo..ill let yall know...

[tkr*fred]

lol...your re-doing the system cuz u got PUNKED at the show...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA JK!!!! lol...i like the way ur system sounds....but i know where your coming from...im never happy with how my system sounds no matter what i do or add...but then again thats why im in this hobby! hopefully after i get my alternator ima be beatin down the block knockin pictures off ur wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:head:

[99Escalade]

Originally posted by BogeyBoy82
Anyone know a loan shark in the houston area?..haha...


ya i know one !!!!!;)

[SLMDLT1]

One question? Why would you not port the IDMAX 12s? My recommendation for a daily driver/competition vehicle, would be to ideally tune to around 37hz, keeping its ability to hit the lows and still score well on a meter. Yes, tuning is quite dependant on the vehicle, but I am just generalizing. You will not get a good score with 3 sealed 12s in a tahoe..period. I have personally installed ID MAx's and I would recommend 2.75-3 cubes ported per sub for the loudest spl, while still sounding good.

I have had quite a few setups in my truck, but its very hard to get a good sounding setup that scores well. Most of the time I have port plugs for daily use where it tunes the subs down to the low 30s for street driving, and when the port is pulled out, you get more vent area and a higher tuning (dependant on variables) that will get you a higher score. For example, one of my last setups in the cut-through was 2 Cerwin Vega Stroker 18s in a 12 cube box being pushed by 4 crossfire BMF 1000d's (6000 watts total). I had a plug that tuned them to 31hz for when I was driving the truck in town. The subs sounded great and got down really low. On a certified termlab (before new mic change) the strokers would do a 152.3 at 31hz (damn loud), but when the plug was pulled and the vent area was increased to 220sq in and tuned to 42hz, it did a 157.8. This was in a no wall setup also.

Just my 2 cents...

[DirtyBlackHoe]

Originally posted by GMC350ss
On a certified termlab (before new mic change) the strokers would do a 152.3 at 31hz (damn loud), but when the plug was pulled and the vent area was increased to 220sq in and tuned to 42hz, it did a 157.8. This was in a no wall setup also.

Just my 2 cents...

Good Lawd that's Loud

[BogeyBoy82]

I hear ya on the port issue. My box right now is ported at 40hz. We're really specific in using the correct air space and program to figure out the exact port size. Will Ad**** (won world finals expert IASCA) is the one who always helps us with our calculations. I know alllll the big ballers with big scores port. The reason I don't wanna port this box is b/c of some advice from Matt Bogart and Jim Putnam. Bogart is the head designer at Image; and Putnam owns their old show vehicle. They both say porting Image subs is a good idea; but having the right airspace in a sealed box is a better idea. I don't know their reasoning. No one understands why. They say if its Image; especially IDMAX; to make it big and seal it up. Everyone I know with Image subs ported (a tonnn of people) always have ports that will "whistle" on the wrong notes. For some reason every sub besides Image (excluding the new V3 subs which are freakin baddd) should be sealed. My roomates box (4 12's in a Denali with a JL 500/1 per pair) is ported. He's not hitting the scores he should. He's gonna seal it up next week. I'll post the difference in the scores. His port is perfect on specs to.

[BogeyBoy82]

btw...this whole project is being delayed at the moment because of this purchase yesterday... http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63912
Escalade Console...woooohhooooo.

[SLMDLT1]

Just curious, but what size box are you running the 6 10s in now ported? Are you going by the id specs of the subs, or by what your friends are telling you?

For spl, ths specs that id gives you aren't worth anything. They are just trying to give you a sql box which is suppossed to be the best of both worlds. Is the problem that you dont have the airspace to go big ported or what? I am very interested to see the scores where the sealed is higher than a correct spl box for ported (with ANY woofer).

[BogeyBoy82]

Yeah Image's specs are definitly a good compromise. They use a program that does all kinds of curves with different ports and whatnots. If you look at my box its kinda funky. They are isobercially mounted/compound loaded subs. It doesnt hit as loud as 6 10's should...but definitly hits lower than any 10's ive ever heard...ill post some scores for the 4 12's as soon as he seals it up. He's makin some wicked kicks for it right now. its a pretty crazy setup..motorized amp rack and whatnot...very classy truck..ill try and get yall some pics too..

[942drYukon]

Your car sounded great at the show man, it was just too hot oustide! I've never heard music light up like that, the horns are perfect and the subs put just enough bottom end in the music to let you feel it.

I really like the IDMAX subs, they will definetly go louder. As for before heatwave, if your pocketbook won't allow for it, don't worry about SPL at heatwave, just go all out SQ(which you've got and it's perfect)

I'm busy trying to get an order off for a 500/1 and 2 12" ID v3's -- can't wait... after that it's saving for components time.

btw. What car did that Carlos guy have at the show? He won like 20 awards, it was crazy.

And what was the cd you were using when showing Fred the system?

peace-

[BogeyBoy82]

Carlos had the nice trailor queen Impala...he won all those awards because JL sponsered the show and JL sponsered his car. I listened to his $hit...it was nice..but I mean..i really should have beat him in SQ...that judge didnt know what he was talking about. He gave me 6 out of 10 points for system saftey. Every wire is loomed...every wires is fused...everything is bolted..you couldnt get safer than mine...that cd that I used is the Focal test CD...ill make you a copy and bring it to Heatwave if you're going. Also...for your 500/1...go talk to Jeff Libotore at that Tweeter on 1960..tell him your a good friend of Gerod's...he'lll help ya out... btw...even carlos said my truck shoulda beat his car in SQ...he was a really cool guy though..ill whip him at heatwave though.. haha.. im puttin together a really tight install book as we speak...

[942drYukon]

yeah, I figured that had something to do with it. I mean you are running subs/speakers that Tweeter doesn't normaly carry, so it wouldn't look good to give the SQ award to someone sporting things you cant buy at the store that is sponsoring the show. That was also the JL event--noticed the tshirts haha. That 6 in safety was probably enough to put you under Carlos.

I was looking @ purecaraudio.com - 500/1 = $387.99 and getting cardomain.com to match that, I'll swing by the tweeter after finals are out and see what I can do--I'm ready to write the check. I'm sure they could give me the best deal if I decide to go with 12w3v2's... although those ID 12 v3's are sooo tempting. I'd have them build the box if I did that, I don't feel ready to build a nice slot ported box. If I go the ID route I'm gunna build a nice big sealed box.

I'm gunna have to check about Heatwave, it's still too soon to know, but if I can I will definetly have my system by then... or part of it. I'll send you a pm when I find out if I'm going or not. Can't wait to see what you have in store as far as improvements go. I can't even begin to imagine.

[BogeyBoy82]

Might wanna call Image and ask about the status of the V3's. My friend's are tryin to get 8's right now. They know the main guys over there and still can't get them for another 2.5 months!

It is kinda crapy that people didn't notice all the stuff I did have from tweeter. IE amps and all the power stuff I have. I spent more on power wire, fuses, etc than carlos did on his installation probably...did you see the screws poking through $hit mounting his amps to the trunk....it was a cool car...but mine was definitly safer than 6 out of 10 points....that and the judge was very very hesitant to give me my score sheet. Made me wait like 20 minutes hoping I would go away. Then he made me make a copy of it. Hoping that I didn't know every employee in Tweeter he tried to get me to leave with that. Then I made my copy and noticed...something aint right here.

[942drYukon]

Yeah, the ID v3's are out, but not the IDQ v3's. I'm gunna have to pick between those ID v3's and the JL w3v2's.... going with 12's. I don't think I can wait even 2 more months w/o subs.... but I know those IDQ v3's are gunna be sweeet.