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    Hey has anyone installed an exhaust brake on a 6.5L or 6.2L? Is it worth getting and does it increase fuel consumption?

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    Re: exhaust brake/retarder opinions

    I would think it would work.Like a Pac break.It won't use any extra fuel.It is just a butterfly valve in the exhaust.

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    Why do you Need a jake brake.... They only just started putting them in new trucks for a reason not worth the 2000$+ price tag it probably has


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy53 View Post
    Why do you Need a jake brake.... They only just started putting them in new trucks for a reason not worth the 2000$+ price tag it probably has


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    An exhaust brake and a Jake brake are 2 totally different things.

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    Re: exhaust brake/retarder opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by 19trax95 View Post
    An exhaust brake and a Jake brake are 2 totally different things.
    but they perform the same function.........
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    Re: exhaust brake/retarder opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel Dan LB7 View Post
    but they perform the same function.........
    That's like saying a diesel and gas engine are the same thing because they perfrom the same function.

    A simple exhaust brake in 6.2/6.5 woudl work fine.

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    Re: exhaust brake/retarder opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel Dan LB7 View Post
    but they perform the same function.........
    Kinda.

    "A compression release engine brake, frequently called a Jake brake or Jacobs brake, is an engine braking mechanism installed on some diesel engines. When activated, it opens exhaust valves in the cylinders after the compression cycle, releasing the compressed air trapped in the cylinders, and slowing the vehicle."

    Where as the pac brake setup is just a flap in the exhaust to hold air back.
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    Re: exhaust brake/retarder opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Quyonmob View Post
    That's like saying a diesel and gas engine are the same thing because they perfrom the same function.
    They do....

    (produce power from fuel to turn a crank shaft)

    Notice the root word in diesel engine and gas engine is engine thats because they both perform the function of an engine.

    Jake brakes and Pac brakes are both engine brakes which funtion to provide deceleration or (braking) action via the engine transmitted through the driveline.
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    Re: exhaust brake/retarder opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel Dan LB7 View Post
    They do....

    (produce power from fuel to turn a crank shaft)

    Notice the root word in diesel engine and gas engine is engine thats because they both perform the function of an engine.

    Jake brakes and Pac brakes are both engine brakes which funtion to provide deceleration or (braking) action via the engine transmitted through the driveline.
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    Re: exhaust brake/retarder opinions

    so i gather an exhaust brake isn't something people go crazy over. i suppose it helps on preventing wear on the brakes, but they are there for a reason and city driving isn't a good application for it.

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    Re: exhaust brake/retarder opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel Dan LB7 View Post
    They do....

    (produce power from fuel to turn a crank shaft)

    Notice the root word in diesel engine and gas engine is engine thats because they both perform the function of an engine.

    Jake brakes and Pac brakes are both engine brakes which funtion to provide deceleration or (braking) action via the engine transmitted through the driveline.


    No chit they do the same thing, suck down fuel pump air and spin a crank, does that make them the same thing? No. Fill both your dmaxes up with 87octane unleaded if they are the same as gasser.

    Fugg it, trade your Dmax on a ford ranger, cus they are the same, both trucks.

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    Re: exhaust brake/retarder opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Quyonmob View Post


    No chit they do the same thing, suck down fuel pump air and spin a crank, does that make them the same thing? No. Fill both your dmaxes up with 87octane unleaded if they are the same as gasser.

    Fugg it, trade your Dmax on a ford ranger, cus they are the same, both trucks.
    WOW your internet dick must be huge man!!!!

    A guy uses "jake brake" as slang for engine brake, and someone goes "NO THEY R WAY DIFFERENT DUMMY"

    Just pointing out they do essentially the same thing "perform the same function." You could call disk brakes and jake brakes completely different....

    You have almost woman-like skill to twist words "Jake breaks and Pac breaks perform the same funtion" into "Diesel=gas, Ranger=HD, derp derp." All while being pissy and bitchy. Heck if you could handle the stove and washing machine you might make a good wife someday.

    As a parting shot, Ford Rangers and 2500HD Diesels DO perform the same funtions. The Duramax just does iton a larger scale, burning a less volatile band of petroleum distillates.
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    Re: exhaust brake/retarder opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Quyonmob View Post


    No chit they do the same thing, suck down fuel pump air and spin a crank, does that make them the same thing? No. Fill both your dmaxes up with 87octane unleaded if they are the same as gasser.

    Fugg it, trade your Dmax on a ford ranger, cus they are the same, both trucks.
    WOW your internet dick must be huge man!!!!

    A guy uses "jake brake" as slang for engine brake, and someone goes "NO THEY R WAY DIFFERENT DUMMY"

    Just pointing out they do essentially the same thing "perform the same function." You could call disk brakes and jake brakes completely different....

    You have almost woman-like skill to twist words "Jake breaks and Pac breaks perform the same funtion" into "Diesel=gas, Ranger=HD, derp derp." All while being pissy and bitchy. Heck if you could handle the stove and washing machine you might make a good wife someday.



    As a parting shot, Ford Rangers and 2500HD Diesels DO perform the same funtions. The Duramax just does iton a larger scale, burning a less volatile band of petroleum distillates. Also FWIW diesels don't suck down fuel, it's injected
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    Td:rl engine brake or jake brake isn't worth the money on a 6.5 or 6.2 and plus idk about around you but your not allowed to use and engine brake in the city here


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    Re: exhaust brake/retarder opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel Dan LB7 View Post
    WOW your internet dick must be huge man!!!!

    A guy uses "jake brake" as slang for engine brake, and someone goes "NO THEY R WAY DIFFERENT DUMMY"

    Just pointing out they do essentially the same thing "perform the same function." You could call disk brakes and jake brakes completely different....

    You have almost woman-like skill to twist words "Jake breaks and Pac breaks perform the same funtion" into "Diesel=gas, Ranger=HD, derp derp." All while being pissy and bitchy. Heck if you could handle the stove and washing machine you might make a good wife someday.



    As a parting shot, Ford Rangers and 2500HD Diesels DO perform the same funtions. The Duramax just does iton a larger scale, burning a less volatile band of petroleum distillates. Also FWIW diesels don't suck down fuel, it's injected


    I'm the the one all bent out of shape being a whiney bitch? May want to re-read the thread, I was just kidding, you're the one that seems to have their back up and spewed a whole bunch of self depricating nonsense.
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