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What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

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    What is the Difference between cranking the torsion bars as opposed to installing keys?
    Do the keys only allow the adjuster bolt to be at a stock adjustment? Or do the keys put less stress on the torsion bars?

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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    the keys allow you to throw more money away, rather than spending it wisely. the stock keys will crank the torsion bars all the way to the droop stops under the UCA.
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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    keys just let you crank em even more

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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    What is the difference between this thread and the 200 other threads discussing the same exact thing in the past 3 months?

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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    Keys only allow you to crank higher than you should. Really though, there's no difference.
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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    OBS trucks, keys are pointless unless your tbars are shot. 99-02 NBS trucks, keys are overkill. You can get plenty out of factory keys, aftermarket keys just make you front end suicidal. 03+ NBS trucks, keys allow you to crank more than 1/4 inch. They are good to invest in in most cases.


    But seriously, search and you will find about 40000000 threads on the pros and cons of cranking and keys.

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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigBlackHD View Post
    OBS trucks, keys are pointless unless your tbars are shot. 99-02 NBS trucks, keys are overkill. You can get plenty out of factory keys, aftermarket keys just make you front end suicidal. 03+ NBS trucks, keys allow you to crank more than 1/4 inch. They are good to invest in in most cases.


    But seriously, search and you will find about 40000000 threads on the pros and cons of cranking and keys.
    All NBS trucks do the exact same thing with stock keys. You're lucky to get an inch out of them. Doesn't matter if it's 99-02 or 03-06.

    But yeah, if you have a NBS, they do allow you to crank more than an inch. On an OBS they're pointless though.
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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    My 99 got way more crank than my buddys 06. I was sittin level with the keys max and a 3" block on 295s. He had to get Ford keys to sit his level with the factory 2" block a 285s.

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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigBlackHD View Post
    My 99 got way more crank than my buddys 06. I was sittin level with the keys max and a 3" block on 295s. He had to get Ford keys to sit his level with the factory 2" block a 285s.
    I only got around an inch out of the stock keys on my 01, and my bars weren't even sagging.
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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    Absolutely no difference whatsoever, except with keys you're more likely to drop the truck and kill yourself.

    The stock keys can be cranked more than enough to completely fuxor your front CV angles, downtravel, and suspension geometry (so even 2wd is not immune from the ill effects.

    Aftermarket/Ford/Indexed keys simply allow you to get the same lift while it looks like the keys remain in the stock position, so people are fooled into thinking that they aren't tweaking their front suspension beyond it's limits.... after all... the keys gave you 2" of lift, and you still have enough room to crank them 2" more!

    Seriously... if you can't get enough lift from the stock keys, you need a spindle and front diff drop kit.

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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    FWIW, my '03 wouldn't level on the stockers. I had to use Ford keys (with hardly any crank) to level it.
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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    Quote Originally Posted by gobrowntruck21 View Post
    FWIW, my '03 wouldn't level on the stockers. I had to use Ford keys (with hardly any crank) to level it.
    My '06 2500HD Duramax leveled perfectly with plenty of room to spare....

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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    wish i would have listened about buyim aftermarket keys for my 97 z71...i bought the suspension max cam2 kit with the interlocking setting inside the torsion key..i think my truck actually sits lower in the front with the aftermarket keys than with my factory keys cranked..i cant crank my aftermarket keys anymore without it throwin my alignment all out of whack, my truck wont ride as well, and my tires will be toed in which i hate..im gonna put my factory keys back in..that way ill have some lift without all those problems
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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    Dont listen to these guys, buying aftermarket torsion keys is the best way to go. Especially if you spend a lil extra and get the 200+ dollar readylift or truxxx keys. They let you raise the front end with absolutely 0 negative sideaffects. Your ride will be unaffected but youll gain height.
    Just read the companies advertisements and all their "testimonials"!



    but seriously no, aftermarket keys do the same thing stock keys do. Cept on an nbs they let you crank further than the factory keys allow.
    My 06 is maybe a slight 1/2" lower in front after a crank, and a hunk of that is just squish in the front tires.
    But if you really need that little bit, check out ebay. guy called 'pricebusterchris' sells keys for 49 shipped all the time.......


    isnt there a 60 some odd page sticky on this with pics and step by step in big bold print at the top of the page?
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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    Quote Originally Posted by RichLockyer View Post
    My '06 2500HD Duramax leveled perfectly with plenty of room to spare....

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    That's a damn nice looking truck.
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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    Quote Originally Posted by gobrowntruck21 View Post
    That's a damn nice looking truck.
    Thanks mang.
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    Re: What is the Diff. between cranking the torsion bars vs Keys?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreaseDog View Post
    the keys allow you to throw more money away, rather than spending it wisely. the stock keys will crank the torsion bars all the way to the droop stops under the UCA.



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    agreed with all of the above, obs nothing nbs maybe some more but not really needed, if you do, then time to look into a kit. Companies just think ppl do not know or won't find out, but want lift, so they sell them and it gives you lift, not knowing you could have done it yourself and for free.
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