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This is a discussion on Header/Tuning question within the Exhaust forums, part of the Performance category; I've recently obtained a Superchips Cortex, programed it for performance and it had the Rado running real nicely, But it ...

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    Header/Tuning question


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    I've recently obtained a Superchips Cortex, programed it for performance and it had the Rado running real nicely, But it wasn't quite where I wanted it. I had to do some towing so then I had to reprogram it for such. Like I said though, when it was in performance mode it was real close to where I wanted it so to step in up a notch I installed a pair of stainless steel JBA shorty headers. After the install I reprogramed it to performance again. While I could feel some power it still wasn't quite where it was when the performance program had it running before. This is kind of a Tuner/Header question so here it finally is. Does the computer adjust to the new headers? It smells like it's running a little rich, is there any thing else that I can or should do? Thanks for you input!

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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    what year truck?
    2001 ECSB, 4/7 Drop, 265/35/22, 4.8, 3.73s, Thunder Racing Tune (93), Vette Servo, Pacesetter LTs/ORY, CAI
    Coming Soonish: 214/222 EPS Cam, 243 Heads, NNBS Intake.


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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    Its an 07 with the 5.3.

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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    You need a custom tune, handhelds cant adjust to headers. least i dont think they can
    4.8/Pacesetter LT's/RPT Tune/Servo/Magnaflow/el cheapo intake

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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    Initially when I programmed it to the performance tune there wasn't an incredible increase but after about a week it really woke up. I'm REALLY hoping that will be the case here. I dropped a nice dime on the headers and tuner I would hate to have negligible gains. I was afraid of that the tuner might not adjust but there is still some time. I will keep you posted if I find any differences. Thanks for the input.
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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    shouldnt have to worry about tuning for shorties, ur stock manifolds were basically the same as shorties, so u wont see any gains from shorties on a 4.8/5.3/ls1
    2001 ECSB, 4/7 Drop, 265/35/22, 4.8, 3.73s, Thunder Racing Tune (93), Vette Servo, Pacesetter LTs/ORY, CAI
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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    Another question for you then. When I bought the shorties, the notes said that I would require a y-pipe. I didn't know why but I picked one up. The guys at the shop weren't sure why the notes said I needed one because I didn't. The headers fit perfectly. Question is, is a y-pipe worth the money of installation since I have it already or should I just return it?

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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    if its a stock y pipe, its not gonna help any, if its bigger than stock, or has high flow cats, or both, then yes, install it
    2001 ECSB, 4/7 Drop, 265/35/22, 4.8, 3.73s, Thunder Racing Tune (93), Vette Servo, Pacesetter LTs/ORY, CAI
    Coming Soonish: 214/222 EPS Cam, 243 Heads, NNBS Intake.


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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    The stock is a Y, at least as far as I could see. If you couldn't tell already, I'm no mechanic. But the Y I got was a Magnaflow 3 in 3 out. So it's bigger and I'd assume it'd be higher flow. Gains in HP, sound? I was leaning towards throwing it on since I had it anyways, I think i just might.

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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    yeh since its bigger, go for it, it should give u more gains than those shorties
    2001 ECSB, 4/7 Drop, 265/35/22, 4.8, 3.73s, Thunder Racing Tune (93), Vette Servo, Pacesetter LTs/ORY, CAI
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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    Ouch, there should be more hype to the Y pipe than the headers. All I ever heard was how great shorties were and the Y pipe always got the asterisks. I did notice some gains from the headers so it wasn't a total waste put so far it's not what I was hoping for the money.

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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    Quote Originally Posted by #3ChevyZ71 View Post
    Ouch, there should be more hype to the Y pipe than the headers. All I ever heard was how great shorties were and the Y pipe always got the asterisks. I did notice some gains from the headers so it wasn't a total waste put so far it's not what I was hoping for the money.
    yep, if u compare ur stock manifolds to the shorties, there is little to no difference, longtubes are where the power gains are at....so thats why u felt very little gains other than probably a little deeper exhaust note....if ur gonna get shorties, the power gains will be all in the Y pipe, and magnaflow makes a great quality y pipe so good choice on that
    2001 ECSB, 4/7 Drop, 265/35/22, 4.8, 3.73s, Thunder Racing Tune (93), Vette Servo, Pacesetter LTs/ORY, CAI
    Coming Soonish: 214/222 EPS Cam, 243 Heads, NNBS Intake.


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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    Well I'm glad to hear I made a good call somewhere. The tone is a little meaner, scars the ladies when I start it up at work...It's great! Does anyone even make LT's for the 07 Silverado yet. I've read a couple of threads that say LT's are where it's at but I can't seem to find any. Am I blind or are they just not there? The Y tube install will likely be next month. I'm throwing on some JBA's power cables and new plugs. The truck's about due, I'll probably do all in one shot.

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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    don't waste your money on plug wires. Get ngk tr55 plugs or stock ac delcos
    4.8/Pacesetter LT's/RPT Tune/Servo/Magnaflow/el cheapo intake

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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    Dynatech makes LTs for NNBS trucks, here they are, a little pricey, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...ycg0_P9c5VslZQ ....
    and heres the Y pipe that bolts right up to them, also pricey... http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...3uiAGFIZASdOsw ....

    also, the NBS Pacesetter LT Headers will fit the NNBS 2wd trucks
    2001 ECSB, 4/7 Drop, 265/35/22, 4.8, 3.73s, Thunder Racing Tune (93), Vette Servo, Pacesetter LTs/ORY, CAI
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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    here i found a thread on a dynp comparison of LTs vs. Shorties on NNBS tahoe....heres the numbers

    Horsepower Torque (lb. ft.) Stock 311 @ 5,176 rpm 345 @ 4,076 rpm
    Gibson Shorties
    319 @ 5,176 rpm 346 @ 4,276 rpm
    Stainless Works Longtubes 333 @ 5,376 rpm 355 @ 4,476 rpm

    the comparison can be found here... http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic...ers/index.html

    it appears Stainless Works makes LTs too then...
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    Coming Soonish: 214/222 EPS Cam, 243 Heads, NNBS Intake.


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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    Thanks for the link. Yeah, a little pricey for me at the moment, we'll see if I get that raise at work first. As for the plugs, I only paid $60 so I don't feel like I'm getting robbed, I don't expect the much of anything put durability out of them. They'll provide more clearance than the ones I have now. The guys at the shop showed me that a couple of the wire were a little close and that I should beware of it in case the rig starts running a little funny. I was thinking of the t55 or the iridiums from NGK, I haven't decided yet.

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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    Those are some nice figs, wish I could've found that earlier. I probably would just waited and saved the extra coin for the LTs. Oh well I guess, live and learn. Anyone looking for some shorties? Week old!

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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    Quote Originally Posted by #3ChevyZ71 View Post
    Those are some nice figs, wish I could've found that earlier. I probably would just waited and saved the extra coin for the LTs. Oh well I guess, live and learn. Anyone looking for some shorties? Week old!
    lol, u would have to sell them to someone is doesnt know much about trucks....just feed them some **** like, "shorties are better for torque because of the sharp bends", or something like that

    Quote Originally Posted by #3ChevyZ71 View Post
    Thanks for the link. Yeah, a little pricey for me at the moment, we'll see if I get that raise at work first. As for the plugs, I only paid $60 so I don't feel like I'm getting robbed, I don't expect the much of anything put durability out of them. They'll provide more clearance than the ones I have now. The guys at the shop showed me that a couple of the wire were a little close and that I should beware of it in case the rig starts running a little funny. I was thinking of the t55 or the iridiums from NGK, I haven't decided yet.
    most people around here run NGK Tr6's, they are only good for 30k miles, but they are more of a performance plug....i personally am gonna stick with AcDelco Platinum since i have an OBS
    2001 ECSB, 4/7 Drop, 265/35/22, 4.8, 3.73s, Thunder Racing Tune (93), Vette Servo, Pacesetter LTs/ORY, CAI
    Coming Soonish: 214/222 EPS Cam, 243 Heads, NNBS Intake.


    WRECKED AND SOLD: '97 2DR 2WD Tahoe

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    Re: Header/Tuning question

    if ur gonna get longtubes now, your best bet would be these.... http://www.amazon.com/Setter-72C2265.../dp/B00133MFRO

    they are cheap and great quality

    theres a picture of them on this website... http://www.ajusa.com/details/index/2.../PCS%2072C2265
    Last edited by Low97tahoE; 08-10-2010 at 05:40 AM.
    2001 ECSB, 4/7 Drop, 265/35/22, 4.8, 3.73s, Thunder Racing Tune (93), Vette Servo, Pacesetter LTs/ORY, CAI
    Coming Soonish: 214/222 EPS Cam, 243 Heads, NNBS Intake.


    WRECKED AND SOLD: '97 2DR 2WD Tahoe

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