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Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

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    Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?


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    I've got to do head gaskets on the 98 GMC 1/2 Ton. Its losing coolant at a rapid pace, white smoke out the exhausts, yadda yadda yadda. Sigh.

    While I'm in there, is there anything I can do that is cheap or free to maybe get it to run a bit better? I'm getting a sweetheart deal on the machine work (it pays to know low people in high places), so I don't want to say, "while you're in there, how about a free port and polish?"

    Also, I don't have my Haynes manual with me, are the stock rocker arms on these engines roller?

    And I'm also doing exhaust donuts (one of them has apparently evaporated into thin air), would it be worthwhile to clean up the inside of the manifolds?

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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    Stock rockers are long slot self-aligning stamped 1.5 ratio...no roller tip, no roller fulcrum.
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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    Lame. And Trickflow has some roller 1.6 ratio rockers. Must... resist... spending... more... money...

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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    Must...make...sure...they're...self-aligining...
    Last edited by SUBURBIAN; 03-21-2012 at 09:26 AM.
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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    Good call. The only self-aligning roller rockers they have through Summit are Crower. They're only 1.5 ratio, but they're over $500! Eek.

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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    Summit just showed me 37 options for 350" gen 1 sbc, full roller rocker, self-aligning....
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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigMortboski View Post
    Good call. The only self-aligning roller rockers they have through Summit are Crower. They're only 1.5 ratio, but they're over $500! Eek.
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    I have these in 1.5:1 version, love them, very budget friendly.


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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    Quote Originally Posted by SUBURBIAN View Post
    Summit just showed me 37 options for 350" gen 1 sbc, full roller rocker, self-aligning....
    Man, I suck at the internet.

    I still shouldn't spend the money, but its good info to have if/when I do a real rebuild on it.

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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    I really think the jury is still out noticeable power gins from a rocker arm swap anyways. Unless you're building a max effort purpose built engine, the stamped GM pieces are adequate. I run them on an old school smallblock that sees 6500+ all the time.
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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    Yeah, I equate roller rockers and the like to, say, cold air intakes. Just by adding them you aren't going to turn it into a racecar, but anytime you can reduce resistance, it adds up.

    And if you went to a 1.6 ratio it would be like a cam swap, for lift anyway.

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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    Maybe it lowers oil temp and engine temp from less friction. Maybe parasitic loss is decreased enough to produce a bit more power. Maybe it equates to a .1 or so on the track.
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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    True enough. However, if I am to build a performance vehicle, it won't be a 4000lb+ four-wheel-drive truck.

    That requires a different vehicle. And that requires a job that is a bit more steady than construction is right now.

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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    man i can just drive there and pick up the rockers for mine haha
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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    You can also blend the throat to the valve seat area, just about every stock SBC head has a ridge there from casting, and it shrouds the valves. That will make sure each throat is nearly identical, and you may get a few hp to boot :) I took a chance and did a little blending around the valve guides and the short radius of the exhaust ports, but mine is also a TBI 383 with a cam.
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    You can see the throat blending done in the last two pictures. TBI heads are much worse in this area. These are the heads I originally had on the engine.


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    Re: Doing Head Gaskets 350 Vortec, Cheap/Free Mods?

    You could get your heads milled...raise in compression for more power...dont know if it would mess with the computer though.

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