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Watts link geometry questions....

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    Re: Watts link geometry questions....

    Quote Originally Posted by BigChevMan
    In all honesty they are really simple. Your way overthinking the application. The center should be straight up and down on the exact centerline of the axle at ride height. It'll never leave that centerline as long as your two bars are the exact same length. The ends of the centerpiece will just tilt to either side as you go through the range of motion. The only real figuring you need to is to make sure that there is enough articulation in the bars so they don't bind across your range of motion. It's just like every other piece of racing equipment that has been modified for street use....there are comprimises. Like a 4 link, the longer your bars are the less of a change your center piece will rotate through, but since the frame is only so wide, you deal with what you have and compensate for it by allowing the center to articulate enough around it's axis.

    I hope tha you do make one. They are super nice and relatively simple.
    I thought that I was overthinking it. Seems simple and I just thought I was missing something....lol.

    That spitzracing link is good too....came across that when I first was looking into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecodeman
    Holy crap he's right, but it will only fit t-buckets or something to that effect
    http://www.tperformance.com/street_r...s_linkage_kit/
    Call and ask for jim. He will build it to your frame dimensions.

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    No shiz? Merry Christmas to me
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    Re: Watts link geometry questions....

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen Rider
    :LOL::LOL:Leave me alone......troll!



    I kinna hope he means 80. If so my trucks goin straight down to the ground.:LOL:

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    Re: Watts link geometry questions....

    :LOL: Shhhh, he doesn't know any better.

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    Re: Watts link geometry questions....

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy
    :LOL: Shhhh, he doesn't know any better.

    lol ooooops
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    Quote Originally Posted by alteredimage
    Call and ask for jim. He will build it to your frame dimensions.
    hmm that changes everything.....(heads out to the garage to measure stuff)
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    Re: Watts link geometry questions....

    The watts link total performance uses on their T bucket kits are very small. The metal is thin, there are no bushings in the center pivot, and the steel tubing is very small. I would not run one in a full size truck. I do not know if they have a heavier one or not. I will check when I get to the shop ( I am a total perf dealer, and have catalogs in my shop ).
    A watts link is a very simple design. Where the problems come in, is designing it to work with the longer travel air bagged suspension has. Most all the setups you will see, are made for racing, and for use with very little suspension travel. You will need to make the center pivot bar a little longer, and get the bars going side to side as long as you can. And yes get the center bar verticle at ride height, get the 2 bars parallel to each other, and the ground, at ride height.
    And for outlaw crew cab, a satchell link has the bottom bars angled, with the tops going straight. It's a sweet design if you can fit it in. We use them on our street rod chassis.
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    So, what do you have for me, a truck that would be bagged on 20s (overall diameter being 29.6" in the back) with a regular parallel four link and some 'stones or maybe slam specialties?
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    Re: Watts link geometry questions....

    like was said before they aren't overly complicated. That kits mentioned is way too light duty they only have 7/16th rod ends. I know that I'm using 3/4 on mine and I think they are just the right size. I'll probably order two more and do a watts linkage when I get done with mine. Basically just need to have the linkeage centered on the axle and it actually can be run either horizontally or vertically although verticallly is more common. Just make sure that you have enough travel that's the biggest issue but like it said in the link above even with short arms the axle still travels straigh up and down just have more wrap with the center joint. Best of luck especially if you make your own. Take pictures I might copy you

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    Re: Watts link geometry questions....

    barnyard customs sells a watts link now. never used any of his stuff but its worth looking into. i think his site is http://www.barnyardcustoms.com
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    Re: Watts link geometry questions....

    http://www.barnyardcustom.com is a motorcyle deal...

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    Re: Watts link geometry questions....

    www.builtbybyc.com
    here the right web site

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    Re: Watts link geometry questions....

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy p
    isnt your truck lifted
    The body lift is to fit some blingin 30's

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy
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