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    Im ready to do my first oil change on the 5.3L, the manual says PF46 but damn that thing looks like the size of the filter on my lawn tractor.....does anyone have a # for a longer version?

    Also....are WIX filters any good?
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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    I just use the Mobil 1 filter - MI-206
    why do you want a longer filter?
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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    so your saying PF59 ?
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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    Quote Originally Posted by JB
    so your saying PF59 ?
    no i searched pf59...hehe...cause I couldn't remember if it was pf58 or 9, but the 9 is the one with the antidrain back valve and that's the one you want...pf58 doesn't have an adbv.

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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    Hmmm, well searching around fram they call for a different filter for the 2005's than my old 2000 so apparently GM did make some sorta change.
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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    I just got a PF61 for my 99 4.8l. Is that the right one? I thought it was PF59 but they didnt have one at Auto Zone. The book there said PF61. Who's correct?

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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    Well looking at WIX website, GM went to a smaller filter in 2003 but all the gasket dims and thread are the same as the longer version

    99-2002 4.526" length
    2003-2005 3.404" length

    Think this has anything to do with the tick-tick cold start?
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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    i've used the pf59 since day one in my 2000, 2003, and 2004. I could never tell the difference (the 2003 and 2004 came with the short one). I like the added filtering.


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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    Quote Originally Posted by JB

    Think this has anything to do with the tick-tick cold start?
    No :LOL:

    What is the advantage to running a taller filter other then the extra oil
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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    Quote Originally Posted by JB

    Think this has anything to do with the tick-tick cold start?
    Nope. Not one bit. imo



    Quote Originally Posted by gmcjoe
    No :LOL:

    What is the advantage to running a taller filter other then the extra oil
    Me either.

    Advantage of more filter area.

    JB, if you got the longer one, is there any way that it would hang down lower than the oil pan? Maybe thats why?
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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    Just remember this, we tell our customers who ask about the filter difference. GM calls for a specific filter. If you change it and have engine problems down the road, filter related or not. GM can void the engine warranty for not using the proper filter. If you are not worried about this and have a close relationship with your dealership then go for it. Just a lil more oil capacity and a lil more filtering. Enough to make a noticeable difference? Probably not.

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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark
    .......... Just a lil more oil capacity and a lil more filtering. Enough to make a noticeable difference? Probably not.
    I agree. Especially when you take into account frequent oil changes.


    I have always just used the factory filter in all of my past GMs. When I found out that the factory oil filter in my 88 toyota was better than most every aftermarket filter at the time I stopped blindly buying Frams because they were "Frams" and started doing better research than just listening to my old-school friends.
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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    Quote Originally Posted by JB
    Im ready to do my first oil change
    Already have 3,000 miles JB? I would stick to the same size. Maybe go with a better brand like mobile1 or k&n.

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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    No, I have 1000 miles now and I wanna get rid of the break-in oil and run mobil 1.

    I even bought a GM mobil 1 labeled oil filler cap (got the # from gmcjoe)
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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    Quote Originally Posted by JB
    No, I have 1000 miles now and I wanna get rid of the break-in oil and run mobil 1.

    I even bought a GM mobil 1 labeled oil filler cap (got the # from gmcjoe)
    Good idea! Iv'e been running mobile 1 the day I bought mine and always wanted to buy the cap but keep forgeting. If you don't mind saying...how much was it?

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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark
    Just remember this, we tell our customers who ask about the filter difference. GM calls for a specific filter. If you change it and have engine problems down the road, filter related or not. GM can void the engine warranty for not using the proper filter. If you are not worried about this and have a close relationship with your dealership then go for it. Just a lil more oil capacity and a lil more filtering. Enough to make a noticeable difference? Probably not.


    Actually no, they can't do that...

    Under certain conditions...

    1) The filter gasket size is the same
    2) The filter thread sizes are the same

    Warranties are protected under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act

    That link is lots of boring reading, but it's there to prove I'm not making this up.

    As long as the consumer uses an oil filter that has both conditions listed above as well as being OEM approved to meet or exceed OEM conditions...

    You are free to use any brand/size of filter you want.

    GM and other auto makers can recommend something, but they cannot require it to be used unless said part/filter is paid for and covered under warranty.

    IE: You put a Fram filter on your truck, it meets all three conditions, and you blow a motor.

    Unless GM supplies you with that filter, they cannot claim it against the warranty.

    We actually have a Ford dealership in town here (I won't name names) that tells consumers if you buy a truck from them, and DO NOT get the oil changed BY them, your warranty is voided.

    They only TELL customers that. They do not put it in writing. And any mention of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act gets them scared.

    I've thought about putting copies of the act on the windshields of their trucks, but that is probably illegal. So I haven't.

    Here's the flip side...

    These are all Fram part numbers because that's all I have memorized, so you might have to cross reference them yourself...

    But Fram PH-3506 is what is recommended to be put on all GM trucks with the 4.8 and 5.3 liter motors.

    Fram PH-3675 is recommended for 6.0L motors.

    The gasket and thread sizes on those two filters are the same. They are interchangable. (Different brands might be different, not too sure.)

    Personally, I use the smaller 3506 on my truck, for a couple reasons... One is that the larger filter is the same diameter, but longer by an inch or two.

    Any longer than those couple inches, and you'll be close to hanging below the engine and maybe below that skidplate.

    And other than the inch or two of extra capacity, you probably won't see any benefits. Including oil cooling.

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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    Quote Originally Posted by blazenlo95
    Good idea! Iv'e been running mobile 1 the day I bought mine and always wanted to buy the cap but keep forgeting. If you don't mind saying...how much was it?
    It was only like $5

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB
    It was only like $5

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    Wow thats alot cheaper than I remember it being. Thanks for the link and part#.

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    Re: 5.3L oil filter...is there a longer version?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zodiac
    Actually no, they can't do that...

    Under certain conditions...

    1) The filter gasket size is the same
    2) The filter thread sizes are the same

    Warranties are protected under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act

    That link is lots of boring reading, but it's there to prove I'm not making this up.

    As long as the consumer uses an oil filter that has both conditions listed above as well as being OEM approved to meet or exceed OEM conditions...

    You are free to use any brand/size of filter you want.

    GM and other auto makers can recommend something, but they cannot require it to be used unless said part/filter is paid for and covered under warranty.

    IE: You put a Fram filter on your truck, it meets all three conditions, and you blow a motor.

    Unless GM supplies you with that filter, they cannot claim it against the warranty.

    We actually have a Ford dealership in town here (I won't name names) that tells consumers if you buy a truck from them, and DO NOT get the oil changed BY them, your warranty is voided.

    They only TELL customers that. They do not put it in writing. And any mention of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act gets them scared.

    I've thought about putting copies of the act on the windshields of their trucks, but that is probably illegal. So I haven't.

    Here's the flip side...

    These are all Fram part numbers because that's all I have memorized, so you might have to cross reference them yourself...

    But Fram PH-3506 is what is recommended to be put on all GM trucks with the 4.8 and 5.3 liter motors.

    Fram PH-3675 is recommended for 6.0L motors.

    The gasket and thread sizes on those two filters are the same. They are interchangable. (Different brands might be different, not too sure.)

    Personally, I use the smaller 3506 on my truck, for a couple reasons... One is that the larger filter is the same diameter, but longer by an inch or two.

    Any longer than those couple inches, and you'll be close to hanging below the engine and maybe below that skidplate.

    And other than the inch or two of extra capacity, you probably won't see any benefits. Including oil cooling.
    that's good to hear. This is what was told by my mgr. Maybe he has an old way of thinking. But I do know that is is not to scare anyone. He just doesn't want to get into the blame game. He does not want to get into trouble with GM when a customer comes in and requests a certain filter and we sell it to him and it gets punctured for being too long or for some reason screws with the engine and GM asks us why we installed it knowing it was what they called for. My manager won't do it unless it is documented that you requested that this certain filter be used.

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