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How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

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    How many quarts of Trans fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.


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    Oh yea Transmission fluid. I want to drop the pan and change the fluid and filter on my 05 silverado 5.3 4x4. I posted this once before but nobody responded. I find it hard to believe nobody knows this or have done this before. The shop wants 288. That is rediculas.
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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    Usually around 5-6 quarts with removal of the pan.
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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    any recomendations on type of fluid to buy.

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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    your manual in the glove box will tell you this info.

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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    i assume you need synthetic fluid since the shop is charging so much, that is a bit pricier then what we charge

    Since your replacing the filter as well your truck takes a little more fluid--more like 7 qts. If you were just dropping the pan it would be 5.

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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    buy 7 and put in 5 and check the level...add as necesary and if you plan on keeping the truck or can stomach spending the money use royal purple otherwise mobil one is also very good and a lil cheaper

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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    So Dextron 3 is what i should use. I know i have seen 2, 3 , 4 in the dextron. I looked in the manual and its not specific. i figured talk to the people with these trucks hence posting here.

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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    DexronIII (no T in dexron) is what it calls for, but you might consider using Dexron VI as it's an updated, higher quality fluid.
    GM put out a TSB (in 06 I think) saying to use Dexron VI in all previous III applications.

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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    i will pick up 7 quarts this weekend if i have time of the dexron 4.
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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    fyi

    There is no such thing as Dexron 4. Dexron III-E is what came in your truck but is obsolete. They skipped 4 and 5 and went right to Dexron VI which is the current standard and what you should use.

    Here is a link to a lookup for info on vehicle from 1980 up to 2010----> Auto and Light Truck Guide
    Example of what you can lookup.....

    CAPACITIES:
    Engine, with filter..........6.1 quarts [1]
    Cooling System, With AT Initial Fill..........15.3 quarts [2]
    Cooling System, With AT Initial Fill..........16.9 quarts [3]
    Automatic Transmission, 4L60-E Initial Fill..........5 quarts
    Automatic Transmission, Total Fill
    4 speed 4L60-E..........11.3 quarts
    Differential, With 10.50 RingGear Rear..........5.5 pints
    Differential, With 8.25 RingGear Front..........3 pints
    Differential, With 9.25 RingGear Front..........3.6 pints
    Differential, With 8.6 RingGear Rear..........4.3 pints
    Differential, With 9.50 RingGear Rear..........5.5 pints
    Differential, With 9.75 RingGear Rear..........6 pints
    Transfer Case, NVG 149-NP3..........4.5 pints
    Transfer Case, NVG 246-NP8..........4.1 pints
    Transfer Case, NVG 261-NP2..........4.1 pints
    Transfer Case, NVG 263-NP1..........4.1 pints
    [1] After refill check oil level.
    [2] With AC & Engine Driven cooling system.
    [3] With AC & Electric cooling fan system.

    TORQUES:
    Oil Drain Plug.....18 ft/lbs
    Transfer Case NVG263-NP1
    Fill Plug 15 ft/lbs
    Drain Plug 15 ft/lbs

    Transfer Case NVG261-NP2
    Fill Plug 15 ft/lbs
    Drain Plug 15 ft/lbs

    Transfer Case NVG246-NP8
    Fill Plug 15 ft/lbs
    Drain Plug 15 ft/lbs

    Transfer Case NVG149-NP3
    Fill Plug 15 ft/lbs
    Drain Plug 15 ft/lbs
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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    5 quarts put mine right on "full hot" after a drive cycle after dropping the pan and changing filter/gasket. and it has the deep pan also.

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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    NAPA told me 6 and 5 brought it up to the full mark.
    Anyone have pointers for getting the torx bolts out for the shift bracket, I couldn't get mine to come loose so I did a quick search and everyone said to bend it outward, gave just enough room to squeeze the pan out. I was looking under again and it looks like they may be right below the 4x4 lever so I may remove it and go down through the floor with an extension on an impact wrench and. I want to replace the torx with normal hex head so I can easily remove them next time.
    Getting the gasket on was a pain, its so tight of a squeeze it would get drug off the pan every time I tried to get the pan in place, I ended up getting the pan positioned and letting it sit on the exhaust then carefully sliding the gasket over the top.
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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    the torx bolts were a pain but you can fit your arm around the driveshaft and exhaust to get to them. I used a small head 3/8 ratchet and torx socket to get them broke loose then just painstakingly loosened them with my fingers. I loosened the transfercase mounting bolts and jacked the case up just to get a few more inches clearance for the pan to slide in and out over the y pipe. Put a SMALL amount of silicone sealant on the pan itself before you lay your gasket on it. It will help greatly while getting the pan in place. I stress using a small amount because dried silicone can be detrimental to a transmission. I was working on my dads lift though which makes the whole process much easier.

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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    Quote Originally Posted by dixie_fl_angel View Post
    i assume you need synthetic fluid since the shop is charging so much, that is a bit pricier then what we charge

    Since your replacing the filter as well your truck takes a little more fluid--more like 7 qts. If you were just dropping the pan it would be 5.

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    Why would dropping the filter cause you to need more fluid?

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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    If you buy a quality trans filter/gasket the gasket will have 4 bolt holes in the corners that are slightly smaller which allows you to thread in 4 bolts to hold the gasket in place while installing the pan. Be careful using any sealant that could end up inside the transmission. There are very small fluid passages in the trans and any excess sealants can get up into the trans and cause future problems. There are several very good spray adhesives that are safe to use with a auto trans but do not overdue it.
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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    i dont know if youd need 2 more quarts (id get the 7 just in case though) but the filter holds oil just like the oil filter holds about a quart
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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    Actually the internal GM tranny filter holds very little oil, maybe a few oz at most.

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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    Never seen an anti-drainback valve on a trans filter. They are always submerged, so there's no need for one.

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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    Quote Originally Posted by GM4ever98 View Post
    the torx bolts were a pain but you can fit your arm around the driveshaft and exhaust to get to them. I used a small head 3/8 ratchet and torx socket to get them broke loose then just painstakingly loosened them with my fingers. I loosened the transfercase mounting bolts and jacked the case up just to get a few more inches clearance for the pan to slide in and out over the y pipe. Put a SMALL amount of silicone sealant on the pan itself before you lay your gasket on it. It will help greatly while getting the pan in place. I stress using a small amount because dried silicone can be detrimental to a transmission. I was working on my dads lift though which makes the whole process much easier.
    I can get the ratchet on them, just can't get them to come loose.
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    Re: How many quarts of fluid is needed if i remove the pan on my silverado.

    One more question.I have seen some responses about the difficulty of removing the pan. And some talking about a specific torx bit. Is teh torx bit used on the filter. The pan seems pretty accessible.

 

 
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