View Full Version : 3 layers of tint on roll-ups. Is it possible?


Gerald
02-21-2007, 12:21 AM
Has anyone done 3 layers of tint on roll up door glass? Is that possible w/o hurting the window motor?

I've got 5% layered on 35% on the 2front doors
20% layered on the factory 20% on the 2back doors
Both, match out to 2%

I thought it looked good for the 1st week, but every now and then, since the sun is starting to show up more, I can see straight through the truck!
Could I go back,for another layer of like, 35% behind what I've got? Or should I strip them, and do like 5%+15%? Or even double 5%?

Thanks guys.

bibby
02-21-2007, 01:18 AM
Double 5 is only 2.5%

chrias
02-21-2007, 07:22 AM
Why don't you just spray bomb the window black so you get 0%? LOL

Gerald
02-21-2007, 01:18 PM
Double 5% has got to be darker than 2.5! My 35+5 measure a true 2% on a meter.

It just kills me that you can still see in at times! Even with 35% across the shield!

opsbear7
02-21-2007, 02:51 PM
this is not safe haha....you could do three layers...they are so thin there is no way they are gonna affect the motors ect. It is just gonna be so dark i wouldnt do it

AL05Chevy
02-21-2007, 02:57 PM
I am assuming you don't have tint laws in Mississippi. Here in Alabama we have tint laws, but back when it was legal I had (5%) on the side and back windows of my truck and (20%) on the front windshield.

Gerald
02-22-2007, 01:00 AM
Yes, we have tint laws, but I'm exempt from them.

How hard was it to see outa the shield done in 20%?
I've got 35% across mine with an 8" brow of 20% on top now, and Im curious If I should go with 20%.

04SilveradoMykk
02-22-2007, 01:17 AM
I'm curious about this doubling layer tint thing...I've got 5% rear and 35% sides. But I'd like darker sides because you can still see me thru the window.... can any tint place do it?

Gerald
02-22-2007, 01:49 AM
You mean just tinting 5% over your 35% on the doors?

tdoyle
02-22-2007, 12:23 PM
I would think that since the tint measurements are based on a percentage of light transmission that layering 5 on top of 5 would be permitting only 5% of 5%. So if you have a clear window that has say 1000 lumens going thorugh it, you should only get 50 lumens with the 5% and 2.5 lumens after the second coating of 5%.

I think you're nuts for tinting it that dark...how do you drive safely?

g0dl355
02-22-2007, 06:58 PM
Just have it done as dark as you want since you're exempt.
Layering it isn't bad, but you should be able to find a tint place that will go as dark as you want.
The way it works in texas is, they will tint it as dark as you want, but if you go over legal limit, you don't get a receipt.
Layering it could cause problems if it peels, you are sticking film to film, not film to glass anymore and I don't know about you but I don't trust that.

CMartin
02-22-2007, 08:04 PM
Yes, we have tint laws, but I'm exempt from them.

How!? If you don't mind me asking...

you could do three layers...they are so thin there is no way they are gonna affect the motors ect

He's right, they are too thin to have anything to worry about. If it was my truck and I wanted to go THAT dark, I'd strip it and go 5% over 5%.

96thebossgrnchv
02-22-2007, 08:19 PM
stripe it and do 3 layers of 2.5% and 5% on the shield, you'll still probably be able to see inside but hey, (are you ashamed of being seen in your truck?)haha

Sweet Tea Man
02-22-2007, 08:22 PM
anyone can be exempt from the tint laws if they goto an eye doctor and complain about bright lights bothering them:D

go ahead and laugh, couple of my friends have done it and they have 5% all around on their cars

bignick31985
02-22-2007, 08:26 PM
I dont know how you can see through your truck with 5 layered on 35. I had 20 layered on 5 on both my fronts, 20 layered on 2.5 on the rear and 35 on the shield and you could only barely see in the front windshield on a sunny day.

That bitch was dark.

Atomic
02-22-2007, 08:34 PM
I have 5 over 20 on the front 2, double 20 over 5 on the back, and 20 on the windshield with a 5 strip over it. I think its perfect and its very dark...

whiteZ714x4
02-22-2007, 08:38 PM
Yea I have a 04 white tahoe and i put 20% over stock on the back and side windows, and I have 5% on front 2 windows, and a 5% strip righ tunderneath the AS1 line. And mine is really dark, you can barely see through it, now if I got the whole windsheild done 35% and kept my 5% strip it would be darkness. i dont see how you see through yours like % over stock??

Gerald
02-22-2007, 11:09 PM
I dont know how you can see through your truck with 5 layered on 35. I had 20 layered on 5 on both my fronts, 20 layered on 2.5 on the rear and 35 on the shield and you could only barely see in the front windshield on a sunny day.

That bitch was dark.
I swear you can! When the sun is just right though the shield, you can see straight through both sides.

I went back to the tint shop today to discuss new ideas, and they put the meter back on it to get some ideas.

The front doors are right on 3%
And the back doors are right on 2%

They told me, once I'm that dark, its really hard to get a noticable difference with a different setup. So, I dunno.

I guess the windshield is still my culprit. I may go back and re-do it in 20, instead of 35. My only problem is, I don't know how well I would be able to see out at night.

Atomic, can you take some pics for me? Please.......?:fsc1:

MDIZZLE
02-23-2007, 06:09 PM
anyone can be exempt from the tint laws if they goto an eye doctor and complain about bright lights bothering them

go ahead and laugh, couple of my friends have done it and they have 5% all around on their cars

NICE

DO you lie and say you have glaucoma so you can smoke weed also legally :biggrin: :biggrin: :smokin:

you guys are crazy :scared:

go see this guy, he will hook you up wift dark illegal tint papas

http://www.myspace.com/tint_terrorist

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/STRUGGLA/MASTTINT.jpg

Atomic
02-23-2007, 07:00 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/atomic178/Tint/IMG_1972Custom.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/atomic178/Tint/IMG_2000Custom.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/atomic178/Tint/IMG_2008Custom.jpg

20% windshield with overlayed 5% strip at the top, 5% over 20% on the front sides, double 20% over 5% on the back 3.

From the inside, I could hardly tell a difference between 35 and 20 on the windshield.

g0dl355
02-23-2007, 10:35 PM
^^That looks badass^^
how often do u get pulled over? haha

Atomic
02-24-2007, 12:31 AM
Never have been...pull up next to cops at red lights and not even a second glance from them.

Gerald
02-24-2007, 12:49 PM
That looks so bad ass! So, since you say you couldn't notice that much different looking out between 35 and 20, Im really considering doing 20%.

Thanks man!

1badgmc
02-24-2007, 01:21 PM
Double 5 is only 2.5%

Check your math. When you layer tints, you multiply.

2 layers of 5% would be .05 x .05 = .0025 or .25%. That's 1/4 of 1%.

Atomic
02-24-2007, 01:39 PM
And what the guy said about not being able to tell the difference past 3% thats completely false...

At one point I had 20 and double 5 on the back and it was impossible to see out of the back even in broad daylight which made merging very dangerous...
I had it redone in double 20 over 5 and its perfect.

double 20 over 5 is 2%
double 5 over 20 is .05%
5 over 20 is 1%

Ill get some pictures inside for ya in a minute.

99silveradoguy
02-24-2007, 03:45 PM
i honestly hope you never have to drive at night where theres no outside lights around

honestly some of the posts with tint setup's is so overdone

I cant see thru my 5% black tint unless im like a foot away and theres no glare from the outside, from the inside i can see out fine except at night with no lights around.

I cant imagine going darker than that.

this is 5% side windows, factory back and nothing on windshield (which is why you can see thru that part)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/99silverado/signature/DSC00812.jpg

Gerald
02-24-2007, 10:07 PM
And what the guy said about not being able to tell the difference past 3% thats completely false...

At one point I had 20 and double 5 on the back and it was impossible to see out of the back even in broad daylight which made merging very dangerous...
I had it redone in double 20 over 5 and its perfect.

double 20 over 5 is 2%
double 5 over 20 is .05%
5 over 20 is 1%

Ill get some pictures inside for ya in a minute.
Ahhh, ok.

Yeah, I remember telling you that the double 20 over 5 is right on. Thats how my back window is, and its perfect! You can see out during the day, no problem, but can't see in at all. Even with all the windows down.

I'll prolly just leave the sheild done in 35, untill I need the new one or something. And add like 20% behind what I have now.
So.... the 2 fronts would be 35 over 5 over 20
and the rear 2 would be double 20 over 5.

That should match well.

Suareezay
02-25-2007, 12:44 AM
holy s#it im glad i dont have to drive in Mississippi. I had double 5% on my tahoe for about a week before I came to my senses.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/jettacoupe69/16185674.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/jettacoupe69/16185725.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/jettacoupe69/16185771.jpg
wtf..who put those alteezas on my car?!?:run: (also before I came to my senses)
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/jettacoupe69/16185676.jpg

Atomic
02-25-2007, 01:11 AM
99silvy, thats what the silverstars and KCs are for :wink:

and plus I dont drive like an idiot...tonight was raining really hard and I didnt do over 60 on straight highway, both hands on wheel whereas normaly only 1 loosely. so that helps.

Gerald
02-25-2007, 02:46 AM
Damn Suareezay, that double 5 looked bad ass on there though!! Thats how a black truck should look, kinda, seemless, if you will.

04SilveradoMykk
02-25-2007, 08:28 AM
Damn Suareezay, that double 5 looked bad ass on there though!! Thats how a black truck should look, kinda, seemless, if you will.


Agreed! I say smoke out some factory lenses and complete the blacked out look.

Suareezay
02-25-2007, 10:12 AM
yea double 5 looks cool from the outside, but from the inside, visibility at night is horrible.

kdirectorate
02-25-2007, 11:06 AM
I just tinted an unmarked police surveillance vehicle. They were obviously exempt from any tint laws, but they stuck with 5% all around excluding the windshield. It's dangerous to go too dark. You're talking about seeing the sun through your windows when it's at a certain angle... but the sun is a powerful thing. I'm assuming you can still see headlights and taillights, but what about the kid crossing the street at night or the guy whose taillights are burned out?

I think it's a bad idea. Layering is also something I would never do. Not so much because it won't bond the same as tint on glass, but moreover, the cuts won't be exactly the same and the chances for lifting are increased. I hope this is helpful.

j_d_seifert
02-25-2007, 11:37 AM
MAYBE... if its a show truck, but no a daily driver.... I wouldn't want a persons death on my concsience whether I was exempt from the laws or not... But hey, thats just my opinion..

bignick31985
02-25-2007, 09:15 PM
I had 35 laid over my 20 on the sides today and it's perfect. With the rear being 2.5 over 20 and the shield at 35 you can just barely see the sillouhettes (sp?) in broad daylight. Perfect for night vision as well.

Comes to 7% if my math is right.

5 over 5 is nuts man! That is WAY dark. All you'd see is reflections of stuff in your truck, lol.

Gerald
02-25-2007, 11:03 PM
I just tinted an unmarked police surveillance vehicle. They were obviously exempt from any tint laws, but they stuck with 5% all around excluding the windshield. It's dangerous to go too dark. You're talking about seeing the sun through your windows when it's at a certain angle... but the sun is a powerful thing. I'm assuming you can still see headlights and taillights, but what about the kid crossing the street at night or the guy whose taillights are burned out?

I think it's a bad idea. Layering is also something I would never do. Not so much because it won't bond the same as tint on glass, but moreover, the cuts won't be exactly the same and the chances for lifting are increased. I hope this is helpful.
Why would I need to see burned out tails, outa my side doors? And, having 35 across the shield is not as dark as you guys make it out to be. You still have 100% visibility, just 35% of glares. If anything, It really helps you drive at night, IMO.

Gerald
02-25-2007, 11:11 PM
I had 35 laid over my 20 on the sides today and it's perfect. With the rear being 2.5 over 20 and the shield at 35 you can just barely see the sillouhettes (sp?) in broad daylight. Perfect for night vision as well.

Comes to 7% if my math is right.

5 over 5 is nuts man! That is WAY dark. All you'd see is reflections of stuff in your truck, lol.
Everyone I ask, can't see in my truck, in broad daylight, at all. Even leaning on the hood, looking into the windshield. Its very blacked out, it just bugs me that in certain light you can see sillouetes(sp).

I honestly dont think I'll go darker. But, I change my mind every day.:crazy:

Racking9398
02-25-2007, 11:30 PM
Im going to the eye doctor tomarrow im going to act like bright light bothers me. There is a big difference in 35 and 20 percent on the front especially at night. You still can see just not as good. I personally have 15 percent on my front window with a 13sun strip on top of that and double on the sides and back on my ex cab Z. I still can see, but blue bulbs doesnt really help out either.

g0dl355
02-26-2007, 12:14 AM
Everyone I ask, can't see in my truck, in broad daylight, at all. Even leaning on the hood, looking into the windshield. Its very blacked out, it just bugs me that in certain light you can see sillouetes(sp).

I honestly dont think I'll go darker. But, I change my mind every day.:crazy:

i have some crappy tint on my truck right now, and I go sit in it at night and talk on the phone (better reception) and I thought people could see me in it, but a street light shines right down on me and you see more of the light reflecting than whats inside the truck.
I love dark tint but at night when backing up or trying to parallel park is hard.

Hiper Z
02-26-2007, 04:50 PM
Im going to the eye doctor tomarrow im going to act like bright light bothers me. There is a big difference in 35 and 20 percent on the front especially at night. You still can see just not as good. I personally have 15 percent on my front window with a 13sun strip on top of that and double on the sides and back on my ex cab Z. I still can see, but blue bulbs doesnt really help out either.
watch what you ask for, a guy in Jersey tried that " the light is too bright ****" and they made him wear those huge black glasses when he drives-the ones you see on old people.:chair:

Atomic
02-26-2007, 06:10 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/atomic178/Tint/IMG_2042Custom.jpg

Windshield is 20% and the very top is 5% over 20%.

It doesnt seem as dark as the picture shows it, but maybe thats because im used to it...Ive gotten the comment, "wow, its still daylight" several times after people open my doors...

g0dl355
02-26-2007, 06:16 PM
damn that makes me want to tint my windshield
this texas sun gets bright as hell sometimes

Gerald
02-27-2007, 02:18 AM
Thanks man!
Visability doesn't look as bad as I expected. I'm really wanting to get it redone now.

Atomic
02-27-2007, 09:41 PM
heres a better picture in full daylight...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/atomic178/Tint/IMG_2059Custom.jpg

Gerald
02-28-2007, 02:30 AM
Man, that'd be so much eaiser to drive during the day. What about at night? Is it dangerously dark?

Atomic
02-28-2007, 04:52 PM
no, it doesnt effect me hardly at all at night. the only condition it does is when there arent any streetlights and its raining hard. It does cutout on alot of the glare of headlights which I really like.

I would take a picture but my camera isnt good enough for you to be able to tell a difference.

Gerald
03-01-2007, 03:11 AM
Alright then. Thanks for the pics man!

I'm still undecided.

Atomic
03-01-2007, 04:56 PM
I should add that even in the said conditions, you can still see but you have to concentrate a little more. 4 hi mod, plus silverstars and offroads help alot.

RiCkO
03-01-2007, 09:03 PM
dang
i have 35% over my stock stuff and thats barely legal here in pa
i cant imagine driving ur trucks at night, has to be rough

Gerald
03-03-2007, 11:42 PM
Haha, well, we roll presidential style, lol.