blue leds in dash installed (pics)

[black_yukon]

I installed blue LEDS in my dash and I'm pretty happy with the results. I had hyperwhites before, but they showed a teal color through my NR whiteface gauges. Here are the pics.

Stock
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid51/pe38a0ea29887540396bace344e5eef58/fca3a540.jpg

Hyperwhites
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid51/pd7b315dd0b37a1a4cc1db1036652e2bb/fca3a542.jpg

LED's
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid51/p2301eb827dd9c3e3e76393d6e75072f8/fca3a6b4.jpg

[pebbleboy]

looks sweet :rocking:

[sin]

That looks sweet:head: Where did you get the LEDs..how much? I wanna get some for my 02 Tahoe.

[Whifflebat]

Makes me wanna go take my dash apart right now...

I got all the tools...but ya know...campus safety might not like having a guy in the parking lot with a flashlight digging in the dash of a truck...*sigh*

[black_yukon]

the leds came from www.superbrightleds.com They had the best prices I could find. They were even cheaper than the hyperwhites I had. I used the 4 led wedge based bulb.

[sin]

Thanks. I read one of your old posts regarding installing the bulbs you had before LEDs. Do the LEDs go in the same way or are there any modding that needs to be done?

[chevy_ownz_u]

Has anyone done this with a 88-93????? They have the green plastic pieces to give u the green color, but u can just cut them out or unscrew em, but i guess it should still look good, anyone have pics of a 88-93??

[Whifflebat]

Originally posted by chevy_ownz_u
Has anyone done this with a 88-93????? They have the green plastic pieces to give u the green color, but u can just cut them out or unscrew em, but i guess it should still look good, anyone have pics of a 88-93??

I'm not sure yet. Plannin on trying over spring break.

[Mauro]

Wow, that looks awesome! Gonna be givin it a try! :D:D

[sin]

How long do LEDs last anyway? Forever?

[Whifflebat]

Originally posted by sin
How long do LEDs last anyway? Forever?

Pretty much. There is nothing to burn out. They dont get hot either. No clue how they work, but they're cool like that.... :head:

[sin]

Sweet:D So just order what you need and that's it. No extras needed for burn outs!

[black_yukon]

Thanks. I read one of your old posts regarding installing the bulbs you had before LEDs. Do the LEDs go in the same way or are there any modding that needs to be done?

No, the bulbs I ordered are direct LED replacements for 194's. I did the same procedure as I did the last time I posted.

One thing I did different was that I used new twist in bases. I didn't want to deal with threading the wires through the little holes and bending them onto the contacts like I had to do with the stock bases. With my old setup, sometimes when I would hit a big bump, one of my lamps would go out until I hit anther big bump.

With the new twist in bases, all I had to do was push the bulb into the base and then insert the whole thing into the gauge... thats it! The bases are made by AutoMeter, the same company that makes gauges. The part # is 3212. I also found them at Pepboys, made by Sylvania, but they were $8 a pop and you need six of them. Summit had them for half that price. I'm sure if you do some web sufing, you could find them even cheaper.

One thing about the LEDs is that they are polarity sensitive, so if you plug it in and it doesn't light up, just flip the bulb.

[HENRY]

Could you please post what part number you ordered?

And are those for all 99+ trucks too?

[sin]

Thanks for all your help. I'll post some pics when I get it done. I'v got the 02 silver Escalade guages so it should look kinda cool.

[black_yukon]

If you decide to get the new twist sockets, the Autometer part # is 3212.

The part # for the LEDs was WLED-B4 Blue from www.superbrightleds.com

I don't know about the old body styles, but they should fit in all the new bodies.

[JB]

That looks great, you need to do a tech article on it :rocking: :head:

[chevy_ownz_u]

Originally posted by Whifflebat


Pretty much. There is nothing to burn out. They dont get hot either. No clue how they work, but they're cool like that.... :head:

Im gonna solve ur problem....

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/led.htm

www.howstuffworks.com is one of the best sites ever made.
______

Also, the 88-93's take the 194 too.
How many bulbs should i get? Isnt there 6 or 8 bulbs behind there?

[1badgmc]

Man, that looks awesome! I guess that answers my doubts about how well they light up an area like that. Very cool indeed. Time to get me some blue LEDs now. :rocking:

[Kyle]

http://www.kylebrower.net/pics/9.2newpictures/DSCN0098.JPG

my friend kendall's lights, they aren't bright but still kinda tight.

Mine are a dark red

http://www.anythingcars.com/members/chane/gaugebulb.htm

[sprttrk]

That pretty cool!!! I painted my cluster guage lights with engine paint, it works pretty good. BUT I WANT LEDs:head:. Time to get out the credit card... I think I will do all my interior lights now.. and my third brake light/cargo light. I already have the brake lights..

[Stabbin97Tahoe]

I have a question about this pic :read:

http://www.anythingcars.com/members/chane/gauge7.jpeg

Is that what the 1997 Tahoe will look like when I change the bulbs? And do I just set it in or twist it into place or move the metal leads? And I will be getting Blue LED's so are those the same as regular 194 bulbs or different in the way they install? Thanks...Mike :D

[1badgmc]

Originally posted by Stabbin97Tahoe
Is that what the 1997 Tahoe will look like when I change the bulbs? And do I just set it in or twist it into place or move the metal leads? And I will be getting Blue LED's so are those the same as regular 194 bulbs or different in the way they install? Thanks...Mike :D

Yes, exactly. Installation is identical to the '99+ trucks. I'll be doing the same thing once my LEDs show up that I ordered Monday. :D There are also 6 bulbs on our clusters, just like the '99+ trucks.

[LOW98GMC]

Originally posted by sprttrk
That pretty cool!!! I painted my cluster guage lights with engine paint, it works pretty good. BUT I WANT LEDs:head:. Time to get out the credit card... I think I will do all my interior lights now.. and my third brake light/cargo light. I already have the brake lights.. i just ordered my bulbs my cab lights and it was pretty cheap i thought that it was going to be alot more $$ for the bulbs.

i have one question though is there anything else that i should get before i install the new leds or just take out the stock lights and put in the new ones?......TrEy:D

[Z71mudder]

I posted this question in my thread too, but is there any way to change out the lights behind the AC and headlight controls? They light up white factory, is there any way to change them to another color, would it be just like the guage ones? Also is there any way to change out the radio display color, or is that impossible to do?

Thanks,
Will

[Stabbin97Tahoe]

Thanks 1badgmc :D

[black_yukon]

Hey kylesZ71, I think you were the one that inspired me to do the bulb swap.

Here another pic for you guys. If you don't want to have to modify your bulb to fit in the stock sockets, you can get these Autometer sockets pn# 3212. They are direct plug and play.

Stock on the left vs. Autometer 3212

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid51/p5bcd20225a4c6183d1a1a3f227b586b9/fc9de522.jpg

In the pic, the Autometer looks a little burnt, but it's not. It's brand new and has a satin finish. I think it looks that way because of the flash on the satin finish.

[Z71mudder]

Ok i did a search and found that theres not real way to change the lights behind the AC or 4WD lights, I wouldnt mind leaving them white but is there any way to change the color of the radio display from that teal color on the factory radios? Wouldnt it look weird for the radio to be teal and the guages to be red?!?

thanks,
Will

[denny]

black_yukon where did u get those auteometer sockets from? what do they run? if im gonna do it im gonna do it right.... now can u do this mod on the 99+ escalade guages? any pics of that done

[lalito212002]

Originally posted by denny
black_yukon where did u get those auteometer sockets from? what do they run? if im gonna do it im gonna do it right.... :word: I'm gonna do the bulb swap too, how much are those sockets?

[LOW98GMC]

is there a reason 2 get those sockets or can u just put the new leds in with no problem? is there anything else that i need to get for the swap besides the sockets if those are needed?....TrEy:D

[Stabbin97Tahoe]

:word: :iamwithst And if we do need those do we need to solder those things onto the board or how do they attach to that piece??? Thanks :D

[Lifted99Sierra]

i'm diggin the LEDS, hope to get some real soon:rocking:

[Kyle]

Originally posted by Stabbin97Tahoe
:word: :iamwithst And if we do need those do we need to solder those things onto the board or how do they attach to that piece??? Thanks :D

no chevy just does that from the factory - bending them works fine, i really dig the Autometer 3212 the 99+ stock bulbs are hard to get out, you need a needle and kinda gotta use strength to do it. But its a simple install thats fun to do. good find black_yukon

[copper98]

I ordered me some leds Sat. I got a couple PIAA leds the other day and tried them in my third brake light and it blew the fuse:confused: so I just put them in the map lights in the overhead console. They are really bright. I can't wait to get my other ones. They aren't PIAAs though, they're too proud of their stuff.

[black_yukon]

Copper98, how much were those PIAA's. The cheapest I found them was like $10.00 a piece. I'm glad I found this other source.

As far as the sockets go, they aren't necessary, but they make the install much easier. No cutting the leads on the stock bulb/sockets and no bending the wires around, just plug in the bulbs, plug in the socket, twist, and your ready to go. If it doesn't light up, pull out the socket, turn 180 degrees and try again. LED's are polarity sensitive.

I got them from Summit for about $4.00 a piece and you need 6 of them. I also found them at Autozone, but they were made by Sylvania and were $7.00 a piece.

[zach_schulte]

Looks Bada$$ Man! I'm doin mine with red in like two weeks.

[black_yukon]

I'd deffinitely want to see pics of how the red LEDs turn out. I tried the white LED's and the results were similar to the hyperwhites, only brighter.

Hmmm, let's see, they also come in yellow and green... anyone want to give those colors a try?

[cokedrvrbjw]

what would i need exactly to do the whole cluster, six bulbs and six bases?? thanks

[sprttrk]

Originally posted by black_yukon
Hmmm, let's see, they also come in yellow and green... anyone want to give those colors a try? I'll be doing mine in green, when I get around to ordering them. I'll be doing my cluster and under my dash, the ones under my power door switches and hell whatever else I can get a bulb in... I have every thing done in red right now but it's just engine paint and it's really not that bright...But i don't know yet I talked to the wife today about getting a new (2002) truck but hell i don't know, I've put to much blood, sweat, tears, and money into my 95 to give up on her yet..I still have high hopes. It's been really good to me.

[zach_schulte]

Hey sprttrk:
I was wondering if you could tell me hoe to get to the bulbs for underneath the power windows/ locks and to the bulbs behind the AC controls. Thanks

[Z71mudder]

I read on another post that it was pretty much impossible to change those and that you cant get any colored replacments. Also, they said that if you removed them you would have to get new ones because they wouldnt just plug back in, do a search you should find it! Just a warning!!

Will

[CHICO]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by black_yukon
[B]Copper98, how much were those PIAA's. The cheapest I found them was like $10.00 a piece. I'm glad I found this other source.

No more PIAA's for me!

They are overrated and way overpriced.
Iv'e been suckerd in to buying them from there claims ( no colored glass ) ???

I have two H4 SuperWhite bulbs that the coloring blistered on
the glass and was actually peeling off. :(

Btw these led's are the best quality diode's I'v ever seen.
Great find! Large selection! A must buy.

Thanx, Paul :thumbup:

[lalito212002]

Originally posted by black_yukon
I'd deffinitely want to see pics of how the red LEDs turn out. I tried the white LED's and the results were similar to the hyperwhites, only brighter.

Hmmm, let's see, they also come in yellow and green... anyone want to give those colors a try?

I am going to do mine in blue.:D I'll spend and extra 10 bucks and see what the yellow ones are like at night.
btw, why would the yellow and red LEDs be cheaper($1.59) than the green, blue and white ones($2.59)? less popular maybe?

Also, are the bulbs on the door (the ones that light up the power window switches AND the ones in the lower corners) 194 bulbs? What about the 2 swivel lights (map lights) and dome lights?

[copper98]

black-yukon, I paid $15 a pair, and that is with a discount that I get at my old place of employment. This was before I read this post so I didn't know any better. After I saw what you did to your gauges, I went lookin' for some cheaper priced leds. Thanks for the link by the way.

the swivel map lights in the overhead console are 194s. I just put some leds in there and they are really bright. Alot better than the ones that were in there.

[1badgmc]

FYI for all the '95-'98 guys planning to do the LEDs:

I just checked the new cluster I have laying around that the LEDs are going in and if you're considering being lazy and buying those AutoMeter sockets, don't waste your money. There are no wires to cut on the stockers and you don't even have to bend the wires on the new replacements. I checked all 6 of the bulbs and they're like this. :cool: I pulled the DRL bulb because I don't want it on anymore, and I did have to cut that one out, but not the rest of the bulbs you'll be worried about.

[Whifflebat]

Originally posted by 1badgmc
FYI for all the '88-'98 guys planning to do the LEDs:

I just checked the new cluster I have laying around that the LEDs are going in and if you're considering being lazy and buying those AutoMeter sockets, don't waste your money. There are no wires to cut on the stockers and you don't even have to bend the wires on the new replacements. I checked all 6 of the bulbs and they're like this. :cool: I pulled the DRL bulb because I don't want it on anymore, and I did have to cut that one out, but not the rest of the bulbs you'll be worried about.

Which dash style is that? the 88-94 or the 95-whenever dash?

[1badgmc]

Originally posted by lalito212002
I am going to do mine in blue.:D I'll spend and extra 10 bucks and see what the yellow ones are like at night.
btw, why would the yellow and red LEDs be cheaper($1.59) than the green, blue and white ones($2.59)? less popular maybe?

It may have something to do with how they have to make them to get the colors. A few months ago on the local news there was a bit about the city replacing a lot of the traffic lights with LEDs. They said that most intersections wouldn't get green LEDs even if they have the red and amber because the green lights cost about twice as much as the red and amber.

Sure this is a much smaller scale, but I'm sure it's basically the same thing and applies to both blue and green.

[1badgmc]

Originally posted by Whifflebat


Which dash style is that? the 88-94 or the 95-whenever dash?

DOH!!! :dunce:

I meant to say '95-'98. :D




Got that solved now. :D :crazy:

[Whifflebat]

Originally posted by 1badgmc


DOH!!! :dunce:

I meant to say '95-'98. :D




Got that solved now. :D :crazy:


Aw poo...guess ill have to wait until i find the right screwdriver to find out what i can do with mine...:bawl:

[1badgmc]

Originally posted by Whifflebat

Aw poo...guess ill have to wait until i find the right screwdriver to find out what i can do with mine...:bawl:

:LOL: Sorry, bud. :( I guess I should have paid more attention to the back of my '91 cluster when I had it out.

[copper98]

1badgmc, thanks for the info. I called around yesterday to see who had the sockets. You saved me some green. Thanks!:thumbup:

[Whifflebat]

Originally posted by 1badgmc


:LOL: Sorry, bud. :( I guess I should have paid more attention to the back of my '91 cluster when I had it out.

Its ok, its on my spring break list of things to do. I tried to look at it yesterday here in the parking lot, but I didn't have the right size nut driver for it. :bawl: So, I put it back together...

[1badgmc]

Originally posted by copper98
1badgmc, thanks for the info. I called around yesterday to see who had the sockets. You saved me some green. Thanks!:thumbup:

:rocking: I'm too cheap. I wasn't going to buy them, but I was going to go ahead and get all of them cut out and ready for when the LEDs show up. Lo and behold, I didn't have to!! :D

[denny]

What are the bulbs in the 3rd brake light? can i use those 3022 festoon LEDs in them?

[black_yukon]

If your gonna try and change the bulbs in the new body SUV's, don't bother. I just took mine apart and found that it is sealed, and there are already LED's in there. I don't know about the pickups though.

[LOW98GMC]

Originally posted by lalito212002


I am going to do mine in blue.:D I'll spend and extra 10 bucks and see what the yellow ones are like at night.
btw, why would the yellow and red LEDs be cheaper($1.59) than the green, blue and white ones($2.59)? less popular maybe?

Also, are the bulbs on the door (the ones that light up the power window switches AND the ones in the lower corners) 194 bulbs? What about the 2 swivel lights (map lights) and dome lights? im going for blue 2 i may end up getting a different color to see how they look as well,

the lights that in the door for the window switches ad stuff are 194 bulbs and so are the 2 swivel ligths and dome lights are 194 also they if u go to http://www,brightleds.com they sell them as wedge bulbs and for the other one that is in the headliner if u have it they call that a 31mm festoon bulb, u may know that already but just in case i thought that i would mention that i had a hard time finding what it was called.....trEy:D

[black_yukon]

If your gonna try and change the bulbs in the new body SUV's, don't bother. I just took mine apart and found that it is sealed, and there are already LED's in there. I don't know about the pickups though.

Woops, I was refering to the THIRD BRAKE LIGHT in that post.

[vaperz]

That is really kewl!!...Can you give me the part number or a good description of which leds you used on that web site and I can't find the post of how you did the install..can you give me the link? thanks!!!

[1badgmc]

Originally posted by vaperz
That is really kewl!!...Can you give me the part number or a good description of which leds you used on that web site and I can't find the post of how you did the install..can you give me the link? thanks!!!

This link: http://www.superbrightleds.com/1157.htm scroll down to the 4 LED Wedge Base Bulbs


On this order page http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=CAR you want WLED-B4 Blue LED bulb

[LOW98GMC]

yeah the website is kinda confusing i couldnt find the right leds that i needed. when the site comes up go to LED PRODUCTS then when that page comes up go to the first product line called LED CAR BULBS and click on BUY NOW and then scroll down untill you get to the bulbs called WLED B4 BLUE LED those are the 194 replacement bulbs and another one that you can get for the dome light are called the FESTOON BULB and pick whatever color(s) you desire. hope that this helps kinda confused me at first to.....TrEy:D

[Dmntd]

If its not too much trouble to ask, but can someone post how many and of what type of bulbs you need to replace all the interior bulbs in a 2k2 EC. I would do it myself but since my trucks halfway across the globe I cant really scout it out. I want them waiting for me when I get back in June, THNX....;)

[LOW98GMC]

i dont know for sure put i think u need about 6-7 194 wedge bulbs of whatever color u want for the cluster of whatever cluster u have, 2 194 wedge bulbs for the swivel dome light, 1 31mm festoon bulb for the other dome light between the front and rear seats, 2 194 wedge bulbs for the curtesey bulbs under the dash, 1 194 wedge bulb for under the hood, dont know what goes in the arm rest ones with the window and mirror controls, thats about all i know hope this helps you out some im sure someone will chime in a few.....TrEy:D

[LOW98GMC]

oh yeah forgot about the glove box duh 194 wedge bulb...TrEy:D

[Dmntd]

Thnx - TrEy!

[cokedrvrbjw]

Does anyone have any more info on the replacement bases for the LED's? Im interrested in replacing the cluster but dont want the lights to "flicker after every big bump". How do they install? do they need to be soderred in place>?

[LOW98GMC]

Originally posted by cokedrvrbjw
Does anyone have any more info on the replacement bases for the LED's? Im interrested in replacing the cluster but dont want the lights to "flicker after every big bump". How do they install? do they need to be soderred in place>? pretty much black_yukon said that the best thing to do is to get some new twist sockets from i think summit (part #3212 i believe) and those will stop the bulbs from doing any flickering on and off in the cluster. dont know about any soderring or anything but if u decide not to get the new twist sockets u can just add the new leds in and go from there and see if they flicker on and off....hope this helps......TrEy:D

[MacADaYear]

If you swap the dash bulbs right there wont be any flickers etc.
Ive done it 3 times and have had no problems.

[LOW98GMC]

hey black_yukon or anyone else that knows i just got my leds in from superbrightleds.com and i have 2 questions:

1) in the swivel dome lights what did eveyone do with the medal cuped shaped thing(the reflector) that surrounded the light itself? did u just bend them apart and try to fit them or did u just leave them out?

2) the festoon bulb that i got that black_yukon said was the right one is to small. is there another bulb that will fit? ......TrEy:D

[LOW98GMC]

Originally posted by 01liftedsilvo
hey black_yukon or anyone else that knows i just got my leds in from superbrightleds.com and i have 2 questions:

1) in the swivel dome lights what did eveyone do with the medal cuped shaped thing(the reflector) that surrounded the light itself? did u just bend them apart and try to fit them or did u just leave them out?

2) the festoon bulb that i got that black_yukon said was the right one is to small. is there another bulb that will fit? ......TrEy:D never mind on the reflector i got it in just need answer for the festoon bulb.....TrEy:D

[black_yukon]

I haven't ordered the festoons yet so I'm not sure. I called and they said they were replacements for 211-2's which are the size needed.

As far as the metal reflectors, I needed to pull them out to get the stockers out. Just put them back in and hold them in place, then insert the bulb. The bulb should hold it in place.

[zach_schulte]

Has anyone tried just coloring the bulbs with a sharpie?

[1badgmc]

Originally posted by zach_schulte
Has anyone tried just coloring the bulbs with a sharpie?

What fun would that be? :LOL: :think:

[LOW98GMC]

Originally posted by 1badgmc


What fun would that be? :LOL: :think: :LOL: :word: :iamwithst that and i think if u use a sharpie it just burns off anyhow.....TrEy:D

[VicRed4.8]

You forgot about the one 194 bulb in the ash tray:D .

[LOW98GMC]

Originally posted by VicRed4.8
You forgot about the one 194 bulb in the ash tray:D . yeah i just keep on finding new lights everytime i never thought of before or i just forgot that there was one there.

hey VicRed do u know anywhere that i can get replacement bulb for the dome light ( festoon bulb ) i got one from superbrightleds but the one they have is to small. any info??? TrEy:D

[lalito212002]

Originally posted by 1badgmc


It may have something to do with how they have to make them to get the colors. A few months ago on the local news there was a bit about the city replacing a lot of the traffic lights with LEDs. They said that most intersections wouldn't get green LEDs even if they have the red and amber because the green lights cost about twice as much as the red and amber.

Sure this is a much smaller scale, but I'm sure it's basically the same thing and applies to both blue and green.
Makes sense.
I took a look at some of the stoplights that have been converted to LEDs, and they seem to be all LEDs. I don't think I've seen a stoplight with red and yellow LEDs and a bulb for green, but I'm not exactly examining every stop light I see. I guess us Angelinos went all out when changing the stoplights. :D

[COZWV]

What about the lights in the lower back of the door panels? they are 194's aren't they?

[1badgmc]

Originally posted by lalito212002

Makes sense.
I took a look at some of the stoplights that have been converted to LEDs, and they seem to be all LEDs. I don't think I've seen a stoplight with red and yellow LEDs and a bulb for green, but I'm not exactly examining every stop light I see. I guess us Angelinos went all out when changing the stoplights. :D

We have quite a few that have green LEDs here, surprisingly.

[Timberwolve81]

Anyone see strobe lights in a straight line through the middle of the red light. i've only seen one of those before. really really stands out at night.

[1badgmc]

Originally posted by Timberwolve81
Anyone see strobe lights in a straight line through the middle of the red light. i've only seen one of those before. really really stands out at night.

I've seen them in a few places in Dallas/Ft Worth. A lot of times the strobes are used at intersections that are accident-prone. The strobes grab the attention of the driver and makes them look at the red light. I proved this point to my wife one time. I told her to look down at the floorboard. She couldn't see the traffic signal when doing this, but she could damn well see that strobe flashing. :cool:

[MacADaYear]

Originally posted by COZWV
What about the lights in the lower back of the door panels? they are 194's aren't they?

Yes thouse are 194 too :read:

[slammedchevy01]

So if I get the new twist sockets I just plug the 194( WLED-B4)LED for Blue like Black Yukons into those and plug it in into the socket under the dash? I think I just may have to order, how fast is there shipping and service? Thanx!

[1badgmc]

Originally posted by slammedchevy01
...how fast is there shipping and service? Thanx!

I ordered mine from them last Tuesday and they showed up yesterday. :cool:

[AnniesSS]

Wow! :head: That looks great!!! I'm gonna jump on the bandwagon once it's determined that this can be done on the earlier model trucks and swap out my bulbs for LEDs :D

Thanks for all the info and pics! :)

[slammedchevy01]

Placed my order last nite before I went to bed :D Cant wait to have LED's under my dash!

[Timberwolve81]

I'm like annie, I'll hop on when it's been done to a later model 91 especially, I have the 92 dash though, My truck was one of those lucky ones that got the dash with the tach.

[slammedchevy01]

So do I need the twist sockets from summit to install my LED's under my dash or is it just plug in? If I need the sockets its just plug N play right? Thanx! Hope my LED's are here soon :naughty: :rocking: :head:

[LOW98GMC]

Originally posted by slammedchevy01
So do I need the twist sockets from summit to install my LED's under my dash or is it just plug in? If I need the sockets its just plug N play right? Thanx! Hope my LED's are here soon :naughty: :rocking: :head: i dont think u need the sockets for under the dash it should just be a plus in thing most of the sockets are used for changing the lights in the clusters but i have heard that u dont really need them unless when you hit a bump of something they flicker on and off....TrEy:D

[MacADaYear]

Originally posted by 01liftedsilvo
i have heard that u dont really need them unless when you hit a bump of something they flicker on and off....TrEy:D

True,

I have first changed my blubs to red, then blue, now LED...

Take you time and make sure all the connections are on good and you will be fine. I have never seen mine flicker or turn off once :head: :read: