Ordered Bags

[Bagged02]

well went with coolcars in looisville ky.(http://www.coolcars.org/home.html) A very reputible company.
Just got the front/back. called to see if he'd match an ad in trucking for 898. be gave it to me for 1099.00. thats with brackets included. 1/2 inch line. 450 viarr. 5 gal tank. all fittings and wiring. he came off their price by 300.00. called a few times this morning and got some WOMAN and she said they couldnt do anything on it . called later got the manager and he hooked me up. :rocking:

[IH8FORD]

cool cant wait to see it done.

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

Was Larry too high? What exactly did you order?

[Toolman]

Was Larry too high? What exactly did you order?

:word: Larry has good pricing!

[Bagged02]

Wasent

[Bagged02]

Wasn't too bad. this one came with the brackets with were 100.00 for front 100.00 for rear everywhere else. got em added in with that price. Also this place is 2.5 hrs away so if something happens and i have a problem i can actually go there. Also the set-ups my friend has installed were from this place. think innotaive said 1200.00 w/o brackets or shipped

[Toolman]

Huh, :think: That is a first. Be sure to keep us posted on the project.

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

Wasn't too bad. this one came with the brackets with were 100.00 for front 100.00 for rear everywhere else. got em added in with that price. Also this place is 2.5 hrs away so if something happens and i have a problem i can actually go there. Also the set-ups my friend has installed were from this place. think innotaive said 1200.00 w/o brackets or shipped
You likely could have had Larry come down in price too...sounds like Larry was cheaper til you jewed this company down 300. Good luck..keep up posted. I guess you did decide to go with aol for the rear!?

[Bagged02]

Its Not Aol

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

Its Not Aol
ok...what is it then? 2 link? triangulated 3 link? 4 link? Come on man...give us the details...:read:

[Bagged02]

Damn

[Bagged02]

its not AOL. the front the brackets bolt on. the rear they weld on.

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

Damn
You're putting a damn in the back end...that will be a first...:LOL: :whyme:

I'm just curious as hell as to what you're gonna run...not trying to be pushy...just curious...lol.

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

its not AOL. the front the brackets bolt on. the rear they weld on.
I posted and this didn't show up til I had posted...lol.

So the rear welds on...but are you losing the leaf springs?

[Bagged02]

my buddy says that you take all of em out exept the last one.

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

my buddy says that you take all of em out exept the last one.
well then that is air over leaf (aol)

[Izzy]

If you're going to run a mono leaf and bags good luck. :read: You'll have so much axle wrap you'll want to redo the setup.

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

If you're going to run a mono leaf and bags good luck. :read: You'll have so much axle wrap you'll want to redo the setup.
:word:

Hell I have axle wrap with my flip kit without bags.

[Sweet Tea Man]

If you're going to run a mono leaf and bags good luck. :read: You'll have so much axle wrap you'll want to redo the setup.
right on the money there Iz

[Bagged02]

why would you have tension on the axle. not understanding this

[Izzy]

The stock leaf pack keeps the axle from "twisting" which if it's got 1 leaf it's gonna let the axle twist and I've seen minis break a mono leaf so I'd never trust a fullsize to run one.

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

Don't take this wrong, but we tried to tell you before you bought something to educate yourself or ask questions before purchasing. These statements were to help you save money in the long run. Your aol setup will give the axle a tendancy to pivot forward when you "get on the gas"...thus axle wrap. If it were me...I'd cancel the rear setup...closet up the parts for the air system and front and save up to get a nice link setup for the rear....OR...cancel the rear stuff and just hook up the front til you have the dough to do the rear once.

[Beyond Static©]

I wouldnt run AOL. I know a guy that got AOL done without knowing any better, and he hates it. He's buying the KP 6link. Not only will it ride rough, but it will possibly snap the leaf.

[Bagged02]

so whats the diff. from running hydros. ive had hydros before which is suppose to be wayyy worse then bags. never had a prob or anyone i knew that had em that had axle probs. (just curious). i thought that that was one of the reasons everyone was going to bags in the first place. better ride better for your vehicle

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

so whats the diff. from running hydros. ive had hydros before which is suppose to be wayyy worse then bags. never had a prob or anyone i knew that had em that had axle probs. (just curious). i thought that that was one of the reasons everyone was going to bags in the first place. better ride better for your vehicle
Bags are a better ride if done correctly...aol, in my opinion, is a way to get bags...not to ride completly comfortable...

I know Jimmy, aka railinchevy, has aol on his sierra and likes it, but I do know that it is a much rougher ride than a 2, 3, 4, or 6 link setup.

[Beyond Static©]

"everyone" is going to bags to get a better ride. that is true, but the guys that claim to have a better ride are the ones using new suspension setups, such as a 2link, 3link, 4link, and the 6link.

[Bagged02]

WELL.. GUESS ILL SEE WHEN I PUT EM ON THEN HUH. the ride on my olds 88(1988) with hydros rode decent,really not bad at all. thats with no shocks just a cylinder, cup and spring. so i doubt its really that bad.

[Izzy]

If you rode dros you'll probably love the ride the aol will give but for most a convoluted bag over the axle on a monoleaf rides like dookie.

[Bagged02]

not sure if were on the same lines here. i called coolcars and they said its definitly not an AOL kit, that they dont carry em for that reason.

[Izzy]

If you have leafs it's basically air bags over leafs or AOL. You gonna run a convoluted or sleeve bag?

[Bagged02]

ill be honest. My friends hooking it up. ill check with him to see exactly how hes gonna do it. he said at first just the one leaf. then this morning i called him and he said hes gotta check on it to see exactly how he needs to do it.

[Bagged02]

NOW IM JUST HOPING LIKE HELL THAT when we cut the fenders the rims will tuck.

[alteredimage]

SOunds like you or your freind don't really have a full understanding of the set-ups. Not trying to be rude but I would suggest you look into it further before spending any $ then have to spend more $ to fix it later on. I'm with everyone else If you can aford another $400 then get a 4-link. Remember you get what you pay for! And cool cars telling you it's not an aol when you are still running leafs! what kinda crap is that even if you mount it on the axle it's still basicly an aol.

[Bagged02]

yeah they said eventually i need a 4 link or something to that nature. you can still run it like that but that they may snap over time(leafs).

[Toolman]

I agree you should re-think the plan of action. The other suppliers where higher because those systems were better. :think::dunno:

[Bagged02]

I agree you should re-think the plan of action. The other suppliers where higher because those systems were better. :think::dunno:

i wouldnt say all that. they were giving me a smaller compressor/tank, no brackets,high shipping.

a 1/2 inch full kit(-link system) for 1100.00 is cheap in my mind.

i do however thank yall for the updates and trying to help me out. i am now looking at finding a 4 link

[Physh1]

Sounds like you spent a good amount of cash w/o knowing what you bought or what has to be done to your truck to install it. Good luck.....I think....

Cameron

[Physh1]

yeah they said eventually i need a 4 link or something to that nature. you can still run it like that but that they may snap over time(leafs).So bascially, without telling you it was an air over leaf setup directly and selling it to you they have since then 1) told you it def. wasn't an air over leaf setup and 2) then told you in a really long way that it is an air over leaf setup.

http://www.whosnextracing.com/Assets/Smilies/blowup02.gif

Cameron

[alteredimage]

What type of valves are included?

[Toolman]

i am now looking at finding a 4 link

I am not tryingg to sound like an ass but...Now you gotta add the 4 link in? What is the total coming to now? Everyone that I know of that tried to go cheap ended up spending more $$$ to do it the right way after the got a "great deal". Do it right from the begining. If you can't afford it then save your $$$$ till you can. Good luck and I do hope that everything goes well for you. :thumbup:

[Bagged02]

Well Thanks. now the wife found out i bought em. now i gotta find some way to squirm out of this one. lol :cheer:

[Bagged02]

VALVES: 1 way 1/2 inch SMC

[Physh1]

VALVES: 1 way 1/2 inch SMCHow may valves? 4 or 8?

4 way = 8 valves total...2 per corner
2 way = 4 valves total...2 for BOTH front bags and 2 for BOTH back bags

Cameron

[Bagged02]

4 total

[Physh1]

Hmmm...I think you could do better. Sounds like the reason why your price kept goping down is because they kept taking misc parts off of the original package and started to substitute parts for lower quality and less expensive options. I would reconsider your entire purchase or at least start reading up some more. From what I think you're ending with you'll be spending more later to fix it than just doing it right the first time.

Cameron

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

i wouldnt say all that. they were giving me a smaller compressor/tank, no brackets,high shipping.

a 1/2 inch full kit(-link system) for 1100.00 is cheap in my mind.

i do however thank yall for the updates and trying to help me out. i am now looking at finding a 4 linkGo with the KP four link bolt on or the Suicide doors weld on...only way to go. Might even consider the canti option with the kp...

[OKLAGMCRUISER]

Hmmm...I think you could do better. Sounds like the reason why your price kept goping down is because they kept taking misc parts off of the original package and started to substitute parts for lower quality and less expensive options. I would reconsider your entire purchase or at least start reading up some more. From what I think you're ending with you'll be spending more later to fix it than just doing it right the first time.

Cameron
:word:

[Tyus4]

do you think he got a air over axle setup and not a a air ova leaf so thats why when he asked if it was a air over leaf setup, they said no...Not to be a dick but it might have been better to post on the site first before you bought but you live and you learn...goodluck with it tho..any other questions, feel free to ask

[Physh1]

do you think he got a air over axle setup and not a a air ova leaf so thats why when he asked if it was a air over leaf setup, they said no...It's the same dang thing......anything with an airbag and a leaf spring is some form of air over leaf. The air bag is above the leaf in both cases....

Cameron

[Tyus4]

It's the same dang thing......anything with an airbag and a leaf spring is some form of air over leaf. The air bag is above the leaf in both cases....

Cameron

Technically they are both over the leaf but they actually make "Air over Leaf" systems opposed to a regular air over axle setup

[Toolman]

Technically they are both over the leaf but they actually make "Air over Leaf" systems opposed to a regular air over axle setup

:think: but if they are both with leafs, then they are both air over the leaf systems. I think that we are spliting hairs here. :dunno:

[Physh1]

Technically they are both over the leaf but they actually make "Air over Leaf" systems opposed to a regular air over axle setupOk...it's still rides and runs like air over leaf setup.....it's junk. I hope your not thinking about air assist kits...those aren't an air over leaf air suspension setup.

Cameron

[Bagged02]

the bags have arrrived ill tell yall on 11-11-2004(tommorrow)what all it consisted of. thanks