4x4 lowered / bagged owners check in.

[2LOW4ND]

I want to keep a small network of the lowered 4 wheel drive guys. Seems like i see more and more questions on lowering a 4 wheel drive truck. I bagged mine, so i can help out with alot of questions people might have. I along with alot of others still have questions on things that deal with lowering a 4wd so if i knew who the memebers on the page owned lowered 4wd trucks vice veresa it would take care of alot of time alot of us might have..

SO POST UP!

my now sold bagged 4x4 383 stroker porcharger supercharger / kp 6 link / the list goes on and on.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/91FULLSIZE/truck062.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/91FULLSIZE/truck064.jpg

[ianbroste]

good idea man. i learned everything from quiksilverz71 hes been a great help to me

[2LOW4ND]

The first step is basically gathering up member who own the 4wd trucks and either are lowered and want to lower, it would be super if someone could make this a sticky so it can stay on top and gather as many 4wd lowered enthusiest.


anyone who could sticky this it would be super.

[quiksilverz71]

I'm here

[Mezikedz71]

I tried getting something like this going awhile back.....
hope your post does better then mine.....


BTW any pics of your bag setup and how'd ya do it???

[2LOW4ND]

I tried getting something like this going awhile back.....
hope your post does better then mine.....


BTW any pics of your bag setup and how'd ya do it???


search under my name.. there is tons of info..

[ianbroste]

i think there are enough 4x4s here wanting to go lower there could be a sticky, where all lowering 4wd questions could be posted, i know there are stickys in other sections that this would be more helpful than

[Outkast Rafe]

please make a sticky

[Blaze5509]

I have always heard it is bad (t-case, tranny, drivelines, etc.)to run your 4x4 truck (4lo) on the pavement? Is this just an old wives tale or what?

Isn't Parish's truck a 4wd??This is new territory to me and it seems interesting?

When building a performance truck; AWD would be best but would 4wd work in a similar manner. I am stuck wth my 2wd but these types of things would be nice to know in the future.

[My95Chevy4x4]

<-----lowered 4x4 here belltech kit. gonna take it back and lower it a little more and take a leaf out of the back to make it sit more level

[Grunmn]

Hey good idea... on making a 4x4 lowered sticky.... I was so lost, so I just bought the whole damn 3/4" kit from belltech and had to get new exhaust anyways, so I took it to a shop and hand them do everything for me. I like it, but the back sits like 1/4" higher than the front still. Do I have to take out a leaf or what to even this out? Drives me nuts because I see other people trucks and they look a little lower and leveler. Any ideas on this?

The pic I am going to post is a little off anyways because I was parked uneven on the sidewalk. It isn't as bad as the photo looks, but like I said the back is about 1/4" higher.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/469000-469999/469080_65.jpg

it isn't bad, but I need to get new tires so I don't rub and can put my 20's back on. I think it'll look better with bigger wheels (20's-22's?)

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/469000-469999/469080_2.jpg

Any suggestions would be great

[delosh]

I'm here too. BellTech Kit for AutoRide equipped Tahoe. See Gallery.

[charcoalYukon]

Member (TribalVision) Was a great instructor on the basic lowering job on a Tahoe 4x4.:cool:

[faleide]

NORTH DAKOTA BOY
I've been waiting for people that what a 4x4 lowered for like five years. thank you god. Anywho, i have a 95 short box reg cab z/71 4x4 chevy that i've been meaning to drop and fix, i have huge plans like basically a pro touring pickup thats show quality and a twin turbo 427 ls1 based motor. But like wise i can find out where those things exists and how to do that except for lowering a 4x4 in the way i want to. I know about the torsion keys and have know about that for awhile but if you ask me torsion bars on any pickups are a joke 2 or 4 wheel drive. They simply don't handle as good as a conventional coil-over susupension like you see in all race applications and domestic vehilces including the new 07' tahoes. thats why i want to find out a way to make a 4x4 pickup like mine handle like an 06' corvette, or as close as possible and i know torsion bars won't do the trick or any parts you just buy off the shelf. I really liked how that guy bagged and lowered that one truck and was wondering how easy that really is and if a coil-over would be just as easy. But anywho its nice to know people want to do this and i hope anyone that reads this could help me out in anyway possible to create a new coil-over front suspension in my 4x4 truck. thanks

[Mezikedz71]

NORTH DAKOTA BOY
i want to find out a way to make a 4x4 pickup like mine handle like an 06' corvette,

Tube frame.... completely custom suspension... then you might be in the ballpark of a vette... and you could have bought a new vette cheaper...


But, if you got the cash... anythings possible...

[04 Rooster]

Hey Guys,
I can't get answers anywhere else so I'll jump into this thread. I just put bell tech shackles on my Burb. I cranked the torsion bar keys down as low as they would go (but still have the screw holding the key as per the linked instructions) and the front still sits a little high. Can I use the GM 'purple' keys or should I look to the DJM keys? I'm looking to keep this really cheap for now. Thanks for the help!

[blakrapter]

Hi everyone,

I posted this over at gmfullsize and only got 1 response, so i'll post it here too. I am trying to get 8" of drop out of a 2500HD ONLY WHEN PARKED. I know this cannot be done and drive it that low. It seems like a lot of you guys have 5" of static drop (or at least drive it lowered 5") so whats another 3" if its parked? From a response on gmfullsize, I am pretty sure it can be done, its just a matter of replacing some components. In particular, I need to keep the stock spindles, so I need all 8" to come from the suspension.

I see two potential problems.
1. CV Tripod joint plunges to the point it bottoms out or extends to far and falls out of the cup
2. Top CA outer ball joint binds. I figure this can be fixed with a uniball, or even better, high misalignment joint, but where can I find one? I found the Cone ball joints that seem pretty sweet, but I don't think theyll fit my spindle without modification.

What do you think? Is it possible? What about the two potential problems above? Any potential problem I am missing?

[mrteacha]

can you explain your drop a lil more. Ive been reading up and for 2drs 4x4 they say you must use leafs out back, you said you got shackles?

[K5Sport]

I've been thinking about dropping my 94 fullsize blazer. Couple questions though.

1) Is it going to affect snow performance?
2) Am I going to need new driveshafts?
3) Can I get away with stock rims, just a smaller tire?
4) How hard/how long does the install take?

[Quadworks]

I got to say this is a great sticky!! It should be made into its own catagory on the main page. I have a 2000 Z71 that will be getting dropped 3/4 in hopefully a few months thanks to this info. Keep up all the great info guys.

[Chiggi04]

does any one have any links to the drops for a 4x4 i cant find anything all ive found is 2wd
thanx

[Grunmn]

does any one have any links to the drops for a 4x4 i cant find anything all ive found is 2wd
thanx

you mean where to buy kits? stylinconcepts.com has them, streetbeatcustoms.com (where I purchased mine)... yahoo search: lowering kits for 4x4 applications.

[Zeke7]

Is belltech the only one that makes keys for a 94 k1500? Because they are $120 on stylinconcepts web site. Or will the other different year ones work from other companies? I was also wondering what was the difference between the same year tahoe keys? Because I found some on ebay for the tahoe by a company called suspension max. Any links would be helpful, best place to buy ect. Thanks

P.S. I seen on DJM's site that they now have a 3-5 drop for the 99-05 4x4's that uses lower a-arms to lower the front instead of keys. I was wandering if you could use the keys with it to get up to 6" of drop in the front? Even thow this wouldn't help me out any.

[emetic]

Hi,
i'm new here. I'm from australia and have just bought a 92 2500 4x4. I was originally planning on getting a 2wd to dump but the one i bought was too good a price to resist so i snapped it up, and now i'm planning on lowering it.
question i'm going to ask is why haven't any of you 4x4 guys considered body dropping? from looking at my chassis and body mounts, it looks like you could get the cab an easy 3-4 inches lower before you even touch the suspension. And then even with a small static drop the drive height would be pretty close to the ride height of a non body dropped bagged truck.

just a thought.

not sure what option i'm going to take yet

[H2Oskeefreek]

Hi,
i'm new here. I'm from australia and have just bought a 92 2500 4x4. I was originally planning on getting a 2wd to dump but the one i bought was too good a price to resist so i snapped it up, and now i'm planning on lowering it.
question i'm going to ask is why haven't any of you 4x4 guys considered body dropping? from looking at my chassis and body mounts, it looks like you could get the cab an easy 3-4 inches lower before you even touch the suspension. And then even with a small static drop the drive height would be pretty close to the ride height of a non body dropped bagged truck.

just a thought.

not sure what option i'm going to take yet

I'd also be interested in this possibility.

I've got a '99 tahoe (obs) 4x4 and I'm looking to get a sport truck appearence out of it, as cheaply as possible, but still retain stock ride.

uh....nevermind I thought body dropping involved removing and trimming body mounts to lower the body, not choppin' it up. I just read about body dropping in another thread.

so, basically, I'm looking for advice for the best and least expensive way to go about dropping the truck and retaining stock or close to stock ride. My dad has a slammed astro van, and it rides like a POS, and that's not what I want, I just want to make this lumbering 4x4 look cool.

[emetic]

uh....nevermind I thought body dropping involved removing and trimming body mounts to lower the body, not choppin' it up. I just read about body dropping in another thread.

.

there's 2 types of body drops:
- stock floor where you basically move the cab mounts and make the rails smaller to drop the cab
-traditional where you raise the floor compared to the rest of the cab so that the cab hangs over the edge.

both types aren;t going to be cheap but you get to keep stock suspension and look way lower.

from what i can gather a stock floor bodydrop is likely to set you back upwards of $4000

[H2Oskeefreek]

there's 2 types of body drops:
- stock floor where you basically move the cab mounts and make the rails smaller to drop the cab
-traditional where you raise the floor compared to the rest of the cab so that the cab hangs over the edge.

both types aren;t going to be cheap but you get to keep stock suspension and look way lower.

from what i can gather a stock floor bodydrop is likely to set you back upwards of $4000

well, like I said, once I realized that it was an expensive option, I'm not really interested in that any longer.

If I go with a belltech drop kit, how is it going to affect the stock ride? I theory, It shouldn't affect it much, becuause I wont be changing the spring rate, just the geometry/ travel. I know it will bottom out easier, but I shouldn't have a problem if I put the proper shocks on it.

[TribalVision]

well, like I said, once I realized that it was an expensive option, I'm not really interested in that any longer.

If I go with a belltech drop kit, how is it going to affect the stock ride? I theory, It shouldn't affect it much, becuause I wont be changing the spring rate, just the geometry/ travel. I know it will bottom out easier, but I shouldn't have a problem if I put the proper shocks on it.

The Belltech kit works great. I dont have any issues with mine except it pushes the front wheels out a bit. If I used narrower tires I could lower he front a tad more and it could tuck, but I wanted the same tires all the way around.
The ride quality is much better than stock. The center of Gravity is much lower now and it handles great.
I honestly wasn't looking to slam the truck. I was just looking to make it sporty looking and remove some of the wheel well gap. I think it sits great.
here's the stance with th lowering kit.

http://www.tribalvisiontruck.com/images/complete_045.jpg

http://www.tribalvisiontruck.com/images/complete_024.jpg

http://www.tribalvisiontruck.com/images/misc_004.jpg

[H2Oskeefreek]

The Belltech kit works great. I dont have any issues with mine except it pushes the front wheels out a bit. If I used narrower tires I could lower he front a tad more and it could tuck, but I wanted the same tires all the way around.
The ride quality is much better than stock. The center of Gravity is much lower now and it handles great.
I honestly wasn't looking to slam the truck. I was just looking to make it sporty looking and remove some of the wheel well gap. I think it sits great.
here's the stance with th lowering kit.

http://www.tribalvisiontruck.com/images/complete_045.jpg

http://www.tribalvisiontruck.com/images/complete_024.jpg

http://www.tribalvisiontruck.com/images/misc_004.jpg

lol, I JUST got done looking at your website. Nice work man. It's not quite the look I'm going for, I'd like a little more suttle, but it looks great man! Which belltech did you go with, the 3900? can you find out for me? you truck looks great man.

I'm not going to go with the huge rims, keep stock for now, then go to a 16" corvette style ralley wheel and a med profile tire.

so, how often do you bottom out? the ride isn't rough at all?

[H2Oskeefreek]

The Belltech kit works great. I dont have any issues with mine except it pushes the front wheels out a bit. If I used narrower tires I could lower he front a tad more and it could tuck, but I wanted the same tires all the way around.
The ride quality is much better than stock. The center of Gravity is much lower now and it handles great.
I honestly wasn't looking to slam the truck. I was just looking to make it sporty looking and remove some of the wheel well gap. I think it sits great.
here's the stance with th lowering kit.

http://www.tribalvisiontruck.com/images/complete_045.jpg

http://www.tribalvisiontruck.com/images/complete_024.jpg

http://www.tribalvisiontruck.com/images/misc_004.jpg

lol, I JUST got done looking at your website. Nice work man. It's not quite the look I'm going for, I'd like a little more suttle, but it looks great man! Which belltech did you go with, the 3900? can you find out for me? you truck looks great man.

I'm not going to go with the huge rims, keep stock for now, then go to a 16" corvette style ralley wheel and a med profile tire.

so, how often do you bottom out? the ride isn't rough at all?

[TribalVision]

lol, I JUST got done looking at your website. Nice work man. It's not quite the look I'm going for, I'd like a little more suttle, but it looks great man! Which belltech did you go with, the 3900? can you find out for me? you truck looks great man.

I'm not going to go with the huge rims, keep stock for now, then go to a 16" corvette style ralley wheel and a med profile tire.

so, how often do you bottom out? the ride isn't rough at all?

I dont bottom out too often. Usually it happens if I'm speeding and hit one of those bridge overpass ramps. You know, those big dips right at the overpass.. I installed larger bumpstops in the front so there is no damage caused by bottoming out

I used the Belltech 4x4 Lowering Kit Part Number- 3903 and 6400 rear shackles
Belltech NitroDrop Shock part Numbers
Front #7201
Rear #7502

[Grunmn]

hmm... quick question... I got a bellteck 3/4 lowering kit (streetbeatcustoms fY000.BEL3908-1Y) for the 4x4 appls. it's alright, but I need new shocks. It's a little off in the rear by 1/4-1/2."I haven't even looked, but what do you do to clamp the overload springs? (it's probably way easy) I want to level my back those 1/4-1/2. I do occassionally carry my raptor 660 in my truck, but it isn't too heavy since I can lift it into my truck by myself... how much weight does it affect by clamping the overload springs?

[ianbroste]

when i clamped my overload sping i didnt notice a change in ride difference. and it gives you about 1/2 inch. you just use a leaf spring clamp from napa or shucks and clamp at the front of the overload spring to the rest of the leaf pack

[racer 2]

91 fullsize how much of a body drop would u need to lay rocker panel on the ground and is it possible to get it to lay frame cause u say urs is 1'' off the ground is that cause it isnt possible cause im thinkin bout baggin my 93 4x4

[tuckermitchell]

when i clamped my overload sping i didnt notice a change in ride difference. and it gives you about 1/2 inch. you just use a leaf spring clamp from napa or shucks and clamp at the front of the overload spring to the rest of the leaf pack

I'm not the most experienced with suspension, but IF I took out the overload spring and replaced it with a ride rite bag kit, wouldn't I be able to get that extra 3/4 - 1 inch of drop and retain my load rating??? Just wondering as I had another tahoe that got totalled that had a flip/notch with a 1" lift shackle that was about 1 1/4" lower than my new hoe with the torsion/shackle/hanger kit I have now. I would like to get that extra 1" drop if I can, but still want to be able to tow a little bit.

BTW, they are/were both 4wd.

[ianbroste]

overload spring i think will only get you 1/2" maybe 3/4"

[tuckermitchell]

so I would get another half to 3/4 inch which is better than nothing. Is it going to screw my load rating up though. I plan on getting the ride rite anyways, just wondering if I'm going to get anything extra out of the deal.

[Black-Jacket]

ive always heard and more and 3inch in the front and you will run into cv shaft binding issues

anyone suffered with this?

[tuckermitchell]

My tahoe that got wrecked last july had about a 3.5/5.5 drop on it with keys in front and a flip/notch and 1" lift shackle in the rear. I could have went lower in the front but I wanted it level. I never ran into any problems personally, but I also use 4wd very infrequently. I know in the little I used it, I never heard any clicking or had any problems that were something that worried me. I would have loved to do the same on my new hoe, but the cost of doing the rear just wasn't worth the extra 1.25" to me.

[tahoehtp]

I'm doing the 3/2 drop for now and just got the rear done yeaterday(one of the bolts on the shackle was rusted so took 2 hours trying to get it out... ended up cutting old shackle to pieces) had question though I want to drop the front 3inches, how far that adjusting bolt would stick out.(or how much should I tighten.) rear looks much better but after reading this post make me wanna bagged the tahoe.. but any input helps since tis is first one I'm dropping and want to know all the words from the Experts here:D

BTW, my 4wd wont work so not much concerned about the 4wd use.

[tuckermitchell]

first bro, chances are the 4wd won't work because the actuator is shot on the front diff. very cheap and easy to fix. Anyways, as far as bagging goes, rear is almost identical to a 2wd but the front is all custom and that means $$$$$$$. Good luck

[tahoehtp]

Thanks tuckermitchell. yeah actuator shot hope that;s only thing.
I was at garage all afternoon trying to get one old shackle out. I got in the truckclub now a full member and lot of guys doing drop, bag etc. lot of knowledge there and good people. There are only 2 tahoe, one lifted, and other, mine. I think I'm going to get teh static drop first, then from there I see how far and how much I can do and learn.

[JM's Customs]

im new to this site. but iv droped my 2000 silverado Z71 6" (shackles, hangers, and removed lift block) in the back and about 2" (lowered torsion bar) in the front. my question is when i bag my truck do i take out the torsion bars completly,

[ianbroste]

im new to this site. but iv droped my 2000 silverado Z71 6" (shackles, hangers, and removed lift block) in the back and about 2" (lowered torsion bar) in the front. my question is when i bag my truck do i take out the torsion bars completly,

:nopics:

[JM's Customs]

:nopics:
pics would serve no purpose, for my truck is not bagged. and if is was baged then i wouldnt have asked the question.

[ianbroste]

i wanna see how it looks with the 2/6 as im debated lowering my 4x4 another 2 inches in the rear to have a 3/6

[JM's Customs]

its still high, it is the same as a 2wd 2/4 right now b/c the 4x4 have the 2" lift block but ill get up some pics asap, i would like it to be about 4/6 maby 5/7 if i could. but id rather have air.

[JM's Customs]

i need to lower the front 2" and get a paint job but here it is
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e371/33830/DSC01818.jpg

[tahoehtp]

did you use the existing torsion key and just adjusted (loosen bolt)? I put the 2 inch shackle and I haven't got around doing the front yet which I'm gonna do this weekend. I do have the 1-3" key but wondering how much stock one will drop... (I have 96 tahoe 4wd)

[JM's Customs]

did you use the existing torsion key and just adjusted (loosen bolt)? I put the 2 inch shackle and I haven't got around doing the front yet which I'm gonna do this weekend. I do have the 1-3" key but wondering how much stock one will drop... (I have 96 tahoe 4wd)
i just lowered the stock ones, i lowered one tell it was all the way down and then lowered the other one to match, mine were 3/4 off. so now its level (left to right).

[tahoehtp]

Cool thanks for the info I'm gonna lower it with the stock one first and see for a day.... ( I got the feeling that replacing key on next day... hehe)

[tuckermitchell]

I drive a '94 Chevy Blazer 4x4 2dr and yes I wanna drop it. :D

BUT I have a few questions:

According to summit racing: Belltech BEL-3904 (http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=4294908216+4294908215+4294924760+4294925130+4294839061+115+4294844590) is the kit i need to drop my truck. I did some research on this kit and the belltech website says its for a 4dr only but mine is a 2dr, Is this teh correct kit?

Also I noticed I can see the frame under my truck. Im assuming this is becuz of the factory 2" body lift. Can this be removed in addition to lowering my truck with the kit mentioned above?

[Jc]

The difference between the 4 door and the 2 door lowering kits is the 2 doors use a 3.5" drop leaf in the rear and the 4 door kit uses a shackle/hanger drop. I would assume that the 4 door kit would probably work for the two door, but I am unsure.

As far as the "factory body lift" I had the same question on my last 4x4 tahoe and came to find that is supposedly impossible to get it done. If somehow you find out different though, please let me know.

Also, the lowest obs static drop I have heard of was my old one. It was a 95 4 door, lowered with the keys in front about 3.25" and in the rear it had a DJM flip & notch with a 1" lift shackle. I would have loved to go the full 6ish in the rear but the key wouldn't let the bars go down any lower. It rode fine though that way, at least after I put on the new shocks. When I had the original shocks on for a couple months after the drop the ride was :cussing: Good Luck

[tahoehtp]

Thanks for the info I received. I got the front done with key replaced. used 6" c-cramp which broke ( I went to get 2 more to finish and replace the one I broke) right now mine lowered 2" in rear so front sits lower than the rear and like that look. but, thinking about doing 2 more on rear to level out. I got the 20" rims but my budget is limited so gotta get tires next month and put on. I'll post the pic tomorrow with before and after.

[tahoehtp]

Here is the pic..
http://exceedinglimits.net/forum/album_showpage.php?pic_id=184&user_id=4

[tuckermitchell]

Here is the pic..
http://exceedinglimits.net/forum/album_showpage.php?pic_id=184&user_id=4

very nice bro. are you gonna leave the sidesteps on there to hide the frame or take them off. that is the one thing I hate about lowering the 4x4 is how much of the frame shows. I just got my lowered keys and hanger/shackle. If you want to get another inch or so out of the back you can take the overload spring out of the leaf pack and get a leaf pack kit from napa and move it up the leaf to keep your load rating. I read it on here somewhere, I believe from IanBroste but not sure. Also, there are the summit/tahoe limited "body kits" that have the side skirts and rear skirts that will hide that frame.

[tahoehtp]

very nice bro. are you gonna leave the sidesteps on there to hide the frame or take them off. that is the one thing I hate about lowering the 4x4 is how much of the frame shows. I just got my lowered keys and hanger/shackle. If you want to get another inch or so out of the back you can take the overload spring out of the leaf pack and get a leaf pack kit from napa and move it up the leaf to keep your load rating. I read it on here somewhere, I believe from IanBroste but not sure. Also, there are the summit/tahoe limited "body kits" that have the side skirts and rear skirts that will hide that frame.

well I'm thinking of cuting that sidestep at least half (more of 2/3) and make new cover so that kinda line up with the body, so yes I wanna keep hiding the frame.

and yeah I kind wanted to lower the rear bit more like an inch. thatnk you for the info.

[tahoehtp]

97 2dr Tahoe 4x4, Using belltech 3/3.5.. Bought from stylin concepts,

http://www.stylinconcepts.com/part.aspx/partid/7690/partfamilyid/825/subcategoryid/374/categoryid/30

Thats the kit you would use BlazinX..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/tahoen/new%20tahoen%20pic/DSC00617Large.jpg




:mexsmoke:
Nice tahoe man. if you ever come to NYC or in Long Island shoot me and maybe hook up with the club.

[tahoen]

Nice tahoe man. if you ever come to NYC or in Long Island shoot me and maybe hook up with the club.


Thanks bro!

Will look you up for sure if I'm ever in the area! Why dont you register for Carlisle and join a bunch of us,

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185407




:charge:

[tahoehtp]

Thanks bro!

Will look you up for sure if I'm ever in the area! Why dont you register for Carlisle and join a bunch of us,

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185407




:charge:

yeah I'm trying to get off work that time.. truck club is going every year so if I can get off I'll probably meet you there.

[Zodiac]

2000 Suburban
Lowered 2/3 with GroundForce drop kit

http://www.346extremez.com/imagegallery/albums/uploads/4-23-06/normal_100_0369.JPG

[tahoehtp]

I was at car show yesterday, first time entering for judgin got 5th. but anyway, on the way back one of the club member told me he was hearing noise from the rear since it's only 2" shakle drop I don't think the angle issue what else can it be? did any one experience after such a small drop?

[Z715300]

Here's my truck

Belltech keys up front, Belltech 4" hangers and shackles out back, and lift blocks removed.

My rear Z71 shocks were too long so I replaced them with nitro active drop shocks.

Handles great, rides not so good, and has bumpsteer now.

http://www.6lz71.com/truck%20044r.jpg
http://www.6lz71.com/images/truck%20063size.jpg
http://www.6lz71.com/images/truck%20069size.jpg

[Zeke7]

For those of you with 2000-2005 tahoes or suburbans, could you use DJM 3" lowering control arms, then use there 2" keys to get a total of 5" in the front. Or would this not work? Heres a link, http://www.djmsuspension.com/Products/ProductsByMake/Chevy/2000-Suburban.htm
I see they have the control arms for 99-05 trucks also.
http://www.djmsuspension.com/Products/ProductsByMake/Chevy/99ChevyParts.htm

[tahoehtp]

man I hit a nice hole on the 87 yesterday my tahoe was wabbled so bad. the way I have key lowered I know I need to get the new shocks, and probably bumpstop also what you guys recommend? I think I broke the cv cover too saw grease around control arm now as well.
and also thinkin maybe raise the front just alitle to level the height as well.
full pic
http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?bg=CCCCFF&image=http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2140000-2140999/2140931_25_full.jpg
just front
http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?bg=CCCCFF&image=http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2140000-2140999/2140931_26_full.jpg

[ianbroste]

i just trimmed my stock bumpstops. if you get new shocks it should help a lot, i need new shocks

[tahoehtp]

yeah that's another thing how much you trimed out the stock bump stop?
I need to do that also. man I am a noob.....

[tahoehtp]

very nice bro. are you gonna leave the sidesteps on there to hide the frame or take them off. that is the one thing I hate about lowering the 4x4 is how much of the frame shows. I just got my lowered keys and hanger/shackle. If you want to get another inch or so out of the back you can take the overload spring out of the leaf pack and get a leaf pack kit from napa and move it up the leaf to keep your load rating. I read it on here somewhere, I believe from IanBroste but not sure. Also, there are the summit/tahoe limited "body kits" that have the side skirts and rear skirts that will hide that frame.
btw, I went online looking for that leaf pack kit, which one is the one to use?

[JM's Customs]

when i bag my truck do i take out the torsion bars completly,
does anyone know

[ianbroste]

does anyone know

yes

[JM's Customs]

yes
yes you know or yes you do im confused:think: :whacko: im goin ta bed.

[tuckermitchell]

yes you do, custom bag perch over the upper control arm

[Zeke7]

I was wandering if I bought a 6" lowering c-notch kit for my 94 4X4, Would it make it as low as a 2wd lowered 6"? 91FULLSIZE said they are the same in the back, but my 94 4X4 stock height is higher than my dads 95 2wd stock height. Or would it just lower it 6" from my stock height?

[tmack]

can anyone post some more info on bagging a 4x4 i knwo out back is the same as a 2wd that part im good with kp 4link and cantilever but up front i knwo they dont make any parts so we have to use custom stuff maybe someone who has don ethis can post up swome parts used and whats involved thanks

[ianbroste]

I was wandering if I bought a 6" lowering c-notch kit for my 94 4X4, Would it make it as low as a 2wd lowered 6"? 91FULLSIZE said they are the same in the back, but my 94 4X4 stock height is higher than my dads 95 2wd stock height. Or would it just lower it 6" from my stock height?

it would lower it from your stock height 6". i donno whats different in obs from 4x4 to 2wd but on nbs they have the 2" lift block on 4wd where the 2wd dont.

[Zeke7]

I didn't see any lift blocks on it. I'll have to take a closer look at my dads and mine side by side to see if the extra height is in the hangers or the shackles.

I was also wandering if Belltech's 6" flip kit would even work on a 4wd? I can't find a number or email address to contact them, thier site has been down for months.

[JM's Customs]

can anyone post some more info on bagging a 4x4 i knwo out back is the same as a 2wd that part im good with kp 4link and cantilever but up front i knwo they dont make any parts so we have to use custom stuff maybe someone who has don ethis can post up swome parts used and whats involved thanks
iv seen a kit for the nbs 4x4 up front but not the obs i dont know who made the one for the nbs but atleast someone is trying to help out the bagged 4x4 groups. i think it was air ride tech but not sure

[tahoehtp]

Here is the updated pic with rims. I ended up lifting front back up so it won't **** up the fender...
http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?bg=CCCCFF&image=http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2140000-2140999/2140931_33_full.jpg

http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?bg=CCCCFF&image=http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2140000-2140999/2140931_34_full.jpg

[KevinF56]

has anyone with an '03 and up silverado installed the DJM 4x4 kit that lowers it 3/4? it uses 3 inch lower control arms up front and shackle and hangers out the back. anyone got this kit? i'm really interested in buying it. also, if you got it, how's it ride and all?

[tmack]

ive been wanting to bag my 4x4 for a while now and ive been lookign into just doing the rear first since the front will need alot of custom work i have a question for all the 4x4 owners my rims are 22"x9" 5.5 back space and 14mm offset 265/45/r22 it seems they will tuck fine in the rear with the lip rolled or cut off but the fronts seem to stick past the fender almost half an inch is this just an issue with the 4x4s and the torsion bars will this problem correct itslef when i remove the bars or am i out of luck and going to have to look for diff rims any help appreciated

[3-UP]

Your definatly going to need new rims front and back if you plan to bag it also you cannot roll the edge of your back fenders because there fiberglass. Take a look of the first posts to see the super backspacing needed to bag.

[Big Yedi]

How looses can yuo go w/ the torsion bars?? I loosened mine all the way up to the point the bolt was loose, I turned it back just so it got snug, is that ok??? it drives fine. Please let me know

[emetic]

anybody thats bagged the front, what's been the situation with CV binding?? 91fullsize said his didn't have any problems but i've read elswhere that they bind at about 5 inches of drop.

If they dont bind i'm planning a hybrid air/hydro setup for the front, if they do bind i think i'm gunna pull the shafts and not have 4x4 anymore.

[94Custom1500]

hey guys new to the website. I got a 94 c1500 4x4 and i just bought a 3 and 4 kit. And i would like 2 get 20's but dont got that much money yet. But wats the smallest size rim that i could put on it without massive fender gap?

[Grunmn]

finally got my 20's back on. I really like the look with them on. I had to buy new tires since I lowered her. I lowered the truck as low as I could without getting the rear flip kit. I would like to lower the front another inch and even the rear with the front. Then shave the bumpstops a little, get some drop shocks so my ride isn't so "stiff" and should be good for now.

yeah that's another thing how much you trimed out the stock bump stop?
I need to do that also. man I am a noob.....

lol I hear ya

(sorry about the ****ty pic, used my phone)

[lownfast]

trailmaster

[Grunmn]

trailmaster:wtf:

[tuckermitchell]

trailmaster
:think:

[sysmate]

Hi all,new in here.Have a K3500 crew cab dually (old body)lowered with custom keys and bags in the rear.Having a problem with front driveshaft angle that is too steep, going to brake DS sometime in the future.Any ideas to solve this w/o loosing 4x4?

[red02]

how low can you get a 4x4 02 silverado with 24" rims on it...Im looking to bag my truck in about 2 mouths

[GWC]

:D one thing i need to no what size of back spaceing on wheels to get ?? i am going with 20s with 285/50s on my Z with 2/4" drop :looking:

[black91]

You all have some nice trucks!!!

[mthafcka]

how can I bring down my 04 sierra, but only maybe an inch or two or three

[jackpewter2016]

i want to bag the rear of my 4x4 only can i do this my self. already dropped it 2 inches by removing the blocks under the leafs will air bags lift it to stock again

[KevinF56]

how low can you get a 4x4 02 silverado with 24" rims on it...Im looking to bag my truck in about 2 mouths

good luck bagging it with 24s... it's do-able, but really hard. you can do the rear if you get the right backspace or narrow the axel...the front will be a whole different challenge, especially with a 4x4. i hope you have deep pockets.

[hilander]

Checking In...

[BigtimeBubba]

What offset or bs is needed to tuck a 22x9.5 wheel on a 96 4x4 tahoe. Hoping that a 25 offset will be enough because I really want a paritcualr set of wheels. Also what tires do i run can I get away with 305/40/22 or will i need to go smaller like a 285or 265/40/22/
I'm a noob when it comes to this stuff
Thanks

bubba

[WorleyGuy]

'91 Fullsize,

I've got a '99 2-door Tahoe, 4x4.
I am wanting to drop, but not slam, my Tahoe.
Belltech offers a 3.5" front, 4 rear kit with no mods to the drive shaft angles etc.

Since you originally posted your message on this Forum, have you come across any bolt on bag kits?
If so, who and where can I find info on them?

Also, I have 16" stock rims with standard size tire.
I want to get the lowered look without scrapping anything (it's my daily driver, 24 miles inner city one way). What size rim and tire would you suggest if I wanted to have the tire come up to the curve of the fender curve? I'd like to have low profile, but not so much of the harsh ride that comes with that. Is there a happy medium?

Thanks for your time.
Tried looking at the pics, but I guess there gone.

WorleyGuy

[yukon cornelius]

Are the 3/4 tonne keys the same as the Bell-tech drop keys for a 1/2 tonne?

Reading some of the tech in the offroad section it says that the 3/4 tonne trucks use 1/2 tonne keys to get some added lift with cranking so......Does that mean they will drop a 1/2 tonne?

[Siahnide]

i know this has probably been mentioned, but im going to ask anyways. i have a 2001 silvy ext.cab 4x4 and i want to lower it. i dont think i want to take the air bag route, im just wondering a few names maybe of a drop kit, i would like to keep modifications to a minimum.
thanks for your help n time.

[KevinF56]

mcgaughy's

[yukon cornelius]

Are the 3/4 tonne keys the same as the Bell-tech drop keys for a 1/2 tonne?

Reading some of the tech in the offroad section it says that the 3/4 tonne trucks use 1/2 tonne keys to get some added lift with cranking so......Does that mean they will drop a 1/2 tonne?

Anyone?

[GakiAkuma]

pulling a leaf will get you about 1.5inch drop, over on s-10forum.com theres a guy with a Sy/Ty(forget which one) and hes bagged yo lay out on 18's or 20s.

[92 BLAZE]

Hey what's up Fullsize dudes! Very interesting topic. It seems I had a few questions answered. The big one was CAN U BAG A 4WD? Many said it was near impossible, but I guess it isn't. Great 2 know. I have a 92 Blazer Sport equipped with a belltech kit, keys and nitro drops up front, leaves and nitro's also out back. I am rollin on 22's with 35 series but still have about a good 3 inch gap in the well. I would like to come down another inch in a half for perfection, so all I have 2 do is turn the keys? Called some places they claim it won't go any lower. Want 2 bag her in the near future but since money is always the issue, I could always get some 40 series tires to fill the gap better. Any questions or info needed, Hit me up! If u want to see a fine example of a Belltech 4wd kit installed on a 2 door check me out at the members/street suv galleries. The 92 BLAZE MAN!!!

[92 BLAZE]

I think the 4 or 5 inch torsion key idea is sick! If u can get the idea patented, maybe if u know someone that could mass produce them at low cost or other option would be is probably is take the idea to a company like, belltech show and prove your theory and take a piece of the pie. Even though they'll take a bigger one. Just think, you'll go down in Sport truck history as the man who invented a more effective way to lower a 4wd more than just 3 inches! Not to mention the xtra dough that's always nice. Sounds like your on to something next level. Nothin 2 it but 2 do it!!! Keep us posted. When u produce it I would like 2 check it out. Blaze on!

[emetic]

here's some pics of the back of my 2500 4x4 getting bagged

http://downundertruckin.com/phpBB2/userpix/639_IMGP3480_1.jpg

http://downundertruckin.com/phpBB2/userpix/639_IMGP3482_1.jpg

http://downundertruckin.com/phpBB2/userpix/639_IMGP3484_1.jpg

[yukon cornelius]

If somebody could make a print of how the key would be, I think I could whip a set up.

[Ryma]

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262642

Will give you an idea, not sure how the 2 are teh same but its will give you an idea.

[92 BLAZE]

I needed some feedback on this subject. I currently have a belltech 4wd drop kit already installed. I had it done at a custom shop. I feel that they just slapped the parts on since I wasn't a high paying customer to get me in and out. I am at about a 3 inch drop. If I turn my keys to 4 and a half or max it down to 5 all the way, will I encounter any alignment problems???

[Zeke7]

Does anybody have any pics of the belltech or any other lowering keys next to the stock ones? I would like to see the difference between them. Perferably the obs 1500 keys, but any will do. I am going to see if I can get some lower than 3" ones made up.

[BigCountry]

My truck is a 1500HD so I've got t-bars also. I have maxed out the drop of my McGaughys keys and was able to drop the front 3". At this height my front end alligned perfectly, but I am now out of adjustment. Which is fine, but It couldn't handle 1" lower using keys, not to mention, tie-rods and ball joints would be getting close to their max. I would aadvise not going more than 3". Can it be done, sure, I know guys that just pull their t-bars on some minis and ride on cut down bumpstops, should it be done, probably not. As far as bagging goes, these guys are likely running spindles and maybe UCA's and LCA's that both have ball joint correction. Allignment is probably OK at ride height with the whole setup.

Hear are a couple of pics that show keys that I have laying around, keep in mind that the lift or drop #'s listed are based off of my 1500HD

Top: half ton key that raise my truck ~3" (called Green Keys)
Middle: Stock (called Purple Keys)
Bottom: McGaughys HD Drop Key that lowers my truck ~3"
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BigCountryx/1500HD%20Quadrasteer/3-4drop001.jpg

As You can see it doesn't take much of an index to affect the height.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BigCountryx/1500HD%20Quadrasteer/3-4drop002.jpg

But if you guys do want to try and get a key made that will drop it more than the currently available drop keys, there is a guy on ebay that appears to make them to any spec you want, and they are forged. This link is for lift keys, but if you look at his pictures, he's got keys in virtually any index you could come up with.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/00-06-1500HD-2500-HD-3500-Chevy-GMC-Lift-Leveling_W0QQitemZ120025686664QQihZ002QQcategoryZ33585QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[yukon cornelius]

If the keys are the same part numbers for OBS and NBS, why does belltech list different numbers for lowering keys?

3920 vs 3921?

[emetic]

new pic.

http://downundertruckin.com/phpBB2/userpix/639_downside_1.jpg

[VortecZ]

I have a Z71 Avalanche and just bought the DJM 3/5 kit. It is lower control arms for the front and drop springs for the rear. I probably won't getting around to installing it for a few weeks but I would like to know if I can change keys or do anything else to lower it even more. My biggest fear is running out of alignment adjustment. Is there a "fix" to get more adjustment?

[DROPED4X4]

I have a 2004 gmc sierra 4x4. I bought it all done. im told that it has a trou McGaughys 4" drop but i want to take it a nuther 2". Im alsolooking at a set of 20". what is there that i can do ?

[DROPED4X4]

I want to keep a small network of the lowered 4 wheel drive guys. Seems like i see more and more questions on lowering a 4 wheel drive truck. I bagged mine, so i can help out with alot of questions people might have. I along with alot of others still have questions on things that deal with lowering a 4wd so if i knew who the memebers on the page owned lowered 4wd trucks vice veresa it would take care of alot of time alot of us might have..

SO POST UP!


I have a 2004 gmc sierra 4x4. im told that it has a trou McGaughys 4" drop but i want to take it a down more about 2". Im also looking at a set of 20". what is there that i can do ?

[rtenzo02]

I've read all the post here, I would like to lower my 1992 4 wheel drive blazer at least 4"/6", what's my best option to do so, if any here knows, was the bagged set up any diffrent then bagging a 2 wheel drive truck.

[rtenzo02]

by the way , its a fullsize of course, thanks for any info ?

[DROPED4X4]

by the way , its a fullsize of course, thanks for any info ?
every one has said that McGaughys are the best. I have this system in my truck.I didnt pit it in but its holding up good for me. Goodluck

[rtenzo02]

is it possible to get a 4/6 drop ?

[proc32]

Hey everyone I just signed up with fsc and it has been very informative. I have a 99 Z71 with a set of 22's wrapped in 305/40/22. I pull a trailer from time to time so with that in mind all I am trying to accomplish is a 1"1/2-2" wheel gap between the top of the tire and the bottom of the wheel well. The space currently is 5" in the front and 6" in the rear. From what I read earlier this can be obtained with a 3" torsion key and a flip kit and or removing the factory lift block. Am I correct, and are the keys something I have to buy or do I go to a local 4x4 shop and have them do it for me or do I have to buy them from a dealer. Hope my ?'s aren’t to stupid, but I am totally ignorant when it some to suspension.

[2LOW4ND]

Hey kids im back after selling my bagged 4x4 truck.
I bought a 98 GMC Sierra 1/2 ton loaded, not to many major plans for this truck, needs to haul a 3 year old in the back seat, I happen to have a 3/4 Belltech 4x4 drop kit laying around i forgot i had so i might install that soon. Im gonna keep this truck daily drivin and pactical.
Just chiming through. Ill answer and questions i can now that im back. Give me some time, i have a busy busy schedule.

[rtenzo02]

Can my 92 fullsize blazer 4x4 be lowered 4/6. If not with the beltech 3/3.5 kit what size tire and wheel package would make the LEAST amount of gap between the fender and tire ? Thanks, anyone !

[DROPED4X4]

Can my 92 fullsize blazer 4x4 be lowered 4/6. If not with the beltech 3/3.5 kit what size tire and wheel package would make the LEAST amount of gap between the fender and tire ? Thanks, anyone !
try McGaughys there is a chance they may have one.

[2LOW4ND]

Can my 92 fullsize blazer 4x4 be lowered 4/6. If not with the beltech 3/3.5 kit what size tire and wheel package would make the LEAST amount of gap between the fender and tire ? Thanks, anyone !


If you do an axle flip that will give you 6" drop in the rear. Your gonna need to notch the frame though. As for getting the front lower then 4" with a static drop is gonna be about the lowest you can go. Its not gonna sit level like a 2wd would with a 4/6. The ass is gonna be lower.

[rtenzo02]

Thanks for the 411, I'll try Mcgaughy's !

[GWC]

Looking for pic of a NBS truck with HELOsMaxx 6s on it,i want to put these on my Z71 that is drop 2/4 but would like to see pics of them on a truck that is lowered or setting stock :eyecrzy:
thinking of going with 18x9s with 255/55s or 285/60s.
thanks for any help..

[rtenzo02]

I want bags ! Last Question. What parts conversions, bag parts, etc... do I need to bag my 1992 chevy fullsize blazer 4x4. Meaning whatever it will take, doing it with the 4x4 or with complete removal to 2x4. The more info the better! THANKS

[rtenzo02]

Thanks anyway, I found everything that I need to know, for anyone else who may be wondering the same thing I was, remove your torsion bars, and possibly even your drive axles depending on how old the vehicle is. Newer vehicles will not go in gear without them. The transfer case can remain in place if I remember right. If I can help anyone more than this, email me. Its gonna cost me $1800.00 to have this done on my ride including a lifetime warranty on all metal work !

[RamSRT-10]

Nice Sticky Post.

Have a 89 stepside 4wd been looking to lower it. Could never find a kit lower then 3/4 now i know why.

Oh well guess im screwed and will have to go 3/4. I dont care much about the 4wd i dont use it. To bad i couldnt just get rid of it is that possible ? To yank out 4WD and go 2wd?

[2LOW4ND]

Nice Sticky Post.

Have a 89 stepside 4wd been looking to lower it. Could never find a kit lower then 3/4 now i know why.

Oh well guess im screwed and will have to go 3/4. I dont care much about the 4wd i dont use it. To bad i couldnt just get rid of it is that possible ? To yank out 4WD and go 2wd?

You could, but you would still have to go custom front bag setup in front.

[Gypsy]

2001 Yukon 4x4.
I just bought this rig. It looks like they simply cranked the torsion bars down to lower the front 2-3 inches.
It has that POS autoride setup. They added shackles for the stock shocks. I'm guessing that they simply put in shotrer springs to lower the back end 3-4 inches.
I've had lot's of trouble with the autoride adn I'm on my 3rd compressor. When the shocks are out of air it sits too low and makes a racket when you go over bumps.
I like the look, but I do pull a trailer occasionally so I would like the ability to stiffen the rear if need be.
I'm leaning towards the FIRESTONE bags that go inside the rear coils, and replacing those Bilsteins with Monroes or something like that.
I realize that this is a very low tech solution and not as custom as most set ups. I don't want to spend a ton on a dailer driver.
Any help, suggestions, experience you have had will be appreciated.

[TNAV03]

I've read the threads here and maybe I missed it but I have an '06 Silverado CC Z71 that I want to drop the back end down to level out the stance..Any help/direction would be appreciated.

TIA

[Siahnide]

2 questions here please

lowering by turning down the torsion keys, how does this effect handling etc? does it make it handle better around corners? is it more firm or more soft?

i want to lower my truck in the spring, and i wanted to do a drop kit, but apperently u have to be running 17" wich is ok for me in the spring summer w/ my 20's in the winter i only have 16's... would 17" black steel wheels be ok for these spindle kits?

wut do you guys recomend

thanks alot

[johnnyhempseed]

in..im actually trying to bag my truck in the very near future.. im not sure if i waan just snag a 1/2ton donor frame, and a 2wd front suspension...and i basically need all the advice i can get from the 4wd guys.. thanks

[ianbroste]

read a couple pages of questions. havent been on here in a long time. but heres what i know.

on new body style trucks you can take out the lift block to get your truck about level

the guy wanting the smaller gap who tows take out your lift blocks and get lowering shackles, you can also loosen the stock torsion bars.

the kit which requires you to run 17" wheels or larger use spindles in the front which is the best way to lower the front, but more expensive than keyes. the black steelies im pretty sure will work.

my truck is lowered 4/6 on a 4wd but the equivilent to a 2wd would only be a 2/4.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/ianbroste/truck1.jpg

[emetic]

update on mine. my gearbox needed a rebuild, so while i was at it i took out the trasfer case and all of the front running gear, so now it's simply a 2wd and i'll be bagging the front asap the same way the mini truck guys do their torsion front ends, except mine will have Re-7's

[2LOW4ND]

read a couple pages of questions. havent been on here in a long time. but heres what i know.

on new body style trucks you can take out the lift block to get your truck about level

the guy wanting the smaller gap who tows take out your lift blocks and get lowering shackles, you can also loosen the stock torsion bars.

the kit which requires you to run 17" wheels or larger use spindles in the front which is the best way to lower the front, but more expensive than keyes. the black steelies im pretty sure will work.

my truck is lowered 4/6 on a 4wd but the equivilent to a 2wd would only be a 2/4.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/ianbroste/truck1.jpg


DITTO.

[tahoehtp]

what offset on the front you guys using on the 4x4 drop? I think I'm gonna get that fixed this spring.... so I can go extra 1/2" drop in front....

I bought the set off on ebay brand new so either sell those or just get the 2 new same rim from the same guys (they are local in L.I.) with different offset.

let me konw whatoffset works best...

one of these days I'll bagged it though havent got the budget made on that...

[2LOW4ND]

what offset on the front you guys using on the 4x4 drop? I think I'm gonna get that fixed this spring.... so I can go extra 1/2" drop in front....

I bought the set off on ebay brand new so either sell those or just get the 2 new same rim from the same guys (they are local in L.I.) with different offset.

let me konw whatoffset works best...

one of these days I'll bagged it though havent got the budget made on that...

Are you talking on your Tahoe?? What drop do you have on there right now?? Looks low for a static 4wd already.

[tahoehtp]

I'm using the springtech lowering key and shackle.
well what happen is that with OEM rims I can lower it all the way down without scraoping the tires. with rim I have now (which you see in my sig) it sticks out..
so wondering wht off set front should be to nicely tuck in..

[23sOnThaTruck]

i picked mine up with a 4" drop on it. so dont ask me any questions on what brand and how i did it lol.

[ahb001]

So a 2wd with a torsion front and rear blocks is the same as a 4wd correct? All I have to do is crank down the torsion bolts, remove the blocks right? Or would it be better to get the Belltech lowering keys, is there any difference in ride quality if you just turn down the stock keys as opposed to the Belltech ones? Also whats the difference in the u-bolts in the rear b/t 2wd and 4wd? Does the 2wd have more threading? The dealer says they're the same length and diamater, but didnt know about the thread length and they were 20 bucks apiece. Can you get them cheaper from someplace?

[GB's 03]

2wd U-bolts I used are at least 2" shorter than my 4x4 U-bolts. Your parts guy doesnt have a clue.

[ahb001]

2wd U-bolts I used are at least 2" shorter than my 4x4 U-bolts. Your parts guy doesnt have a clue.

:word: Haha, I was wondering. Any idea of where to get them cheaper? Do you remember the part number?

Thanks

[GB's 03]

I found a totaled 2wd that had drop shackles on it so while I was under there I grabed the U-bolts.

[ahb001]

Cool, i'll check the junk yards.

[2LOW4ND]

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175957

[cheverlow]

one more lowerd 4x4....http://i16.tinypic.com/2a8ep9c.jpghttp://i18.tinypic.com/3y4dohd.jpghttp://i17.tinypic.com/2r54ylf.jpg

[Loudnfast91]

Cheverlow, do you have any more photos of your truck?

[cheverlow]

http://i10.tinypic.com/2rc5r4l.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/4798izl.jpg

http://i18.tinypic.com/2a9d0lv.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/29f5zrq.jpg

[DROPED4X4]

I want to keep a small network of the lowered 4 wheel drive guys. Seems like i see more and more questions on lowering a 4 wheel drive truck. I bagged mine, so i can help out with alot of questions people might have. I along with alot of others still have questions on things that deal with lowering a 4wd so if i knew who the memebers on the page owned lowered 4wd trucks vice veresa it would take care of alot of time alot of us might have..

SO POST UP!

Im looking for some pics of 4x4 baged. i have a 2004 gmc sierra rcsb 4x4 that is lowerd 4" and im thinking bout bags for a nice ride. does it mess up the frount drive shafts,stess the diff or any problems? thanks

[2LOW4ND]

Im looking for some pics of 4x4 baged. i have a 2004 gmc sierra rcsb 4x4 that is lowerd 4" and im thinking bout bags for a nice ride. does it mess up the frount drive shafts,stess the diff or any problems? thanks


It puts stress on the front driveshafts of course, but its just like the other way around when people crank there torsion bars to high with there lift kits. Insted of up its a downward move. But still isnt extreme.

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175957

with all my added links in this thread, there should be enough pictures and info for anyone to fab up a front bag setup, on a 4x4.

[tonxcab]

does anyone have pics of 4wd lowered or slammed

[stylinfosho]

I ordered 3in lowering keys 2in Djm shakle hanger kit plan to remove block and overload spring is there a difference in z71 shocks and regular 4wd shocks? Truck is nbs stepside z71

[tahoehtp]

Ok so now I'm really planning to bag my tahoe.
what stuff you recommend?

for compressor, which ones, how many?
for tank, how big of the tank?
for bag, which bag?

hopefully I can get this started and finish before carlise,
otherwise after carlise this year...

[framedraggin96]

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w233/bagged96chevy/Picture017.jpg
my dad's truck, '98 4wd, shackle hanger kit in the rear, and different keys for the front, and there cranked almost all the way down, and also 16x7 older style cadillac escalade wheels, and 245/75/16 falkens
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w233/bagged96chevy/Picture019.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w233/bagged96chevy/Picture014.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w233/bagged96chevy/Picture013.jpg

[Chuggernaut]

Hey guys -- thread moved to the new 4x4 Street subforum. When I get a chance later today, I'm going to begin splitting this thread up into individual threads within the new area. Unless you're responding to a question already posted in this thread, please start a new thread instead of replying here. Thanks!

[96_bowtie]

checkin in...i guess i could consider mine lowered, took out factory 2" blocks, lowered torsion 1" to level it off, doesnt sit real low but looks good

[thegreenmonster]

3" dropped 4wd tahoe right here

[1989K1500]

3" dropped 4wd tahoe right here
Pics?

[thegreenmonster]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/thatblindguy/tahoe.jpg

[yukon cornelius]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/thatblindguy/tahoe.jpg

Isn't that truck for sale? Thought I saw it yesterday in the autotrader.

[chrias]

Is this the same truck that drives around Markham?

[headkase33]

Just out of curiosity and I am not being an a$$hole, but why would you buy a 4x4 with the intent of lowering it? IMHO, its like taking a honda and lifting it...it just doesn't make sense.

There must be some benefit that I'm missing

[chrias]

Everyone likes to be different. Not everyone who owns a 4x4 uses it for off roading. Why would a soccer mom need an AWD in Arizona when it doesn't snow down there?

In my case I like the lowered look and 4WD gets me through the winter. Plus I enjoy seeing people's expression when I tell them it's a 4x4 and NOT a 2WD and I can carve a corner as well as a Honda and stop just as well as a Vette thanks to my big brake upgrade.

[headkase33]

That's cool, if you need it for road conditions and use it that way I understand completely.

As for the AWD driving soccer mom, she is still using the vehicle in the stock configuration for what the vehicle was designed for.

Like I said, I'm not bishing or telling you that your tastes are wrong, I merely wanted an explanation behind doing this modification.

[doubt_me_now]

Just out of curiosity and I am not being an a$$hole, but why would you buy a 4x4 with the intent of lowering it? IMHO, its like taking a honda and lifting it...it just doesn't make sense.

There must be some benefit that I'm missing

I agree its just like all the lifted mustangs and camaros on 4x4 frames i seen rolling around VA it makes absolutly no sense to me but thats my opinion

[thegreenmonster]

Everyone likes to be different. Not everyone who owns a 4x4 uses it for off roading. Why would a soccer mom need an AWD in Arizona when it doesn't snow down there?

In my case I like the lowered look and 4WD gets me through the winter. Plus I enjoy seeing people's expression when I tell them it's a 4x4 and NOT a 2WD and I can carve a corner as well as a Honda and stop just as well as a Vette thanks to my big brake upgrade.
exactly.

i bought the truck a week ago from a guy in markham. it was his wife's truck.

my intent was to buy a 4x4 for the winter. i saw this truck and couldn't pass it up.
i'm not too big on lifting trucks. there are no driveline angle problems so what's the big deal?

[96_bowtie]

i own a 4wd because where i live, it snows. if it didnt snow where i live than i would own a 2wd. "why lower a 4wd?" why lift a 2wd? enough said

[chrias]

exactly.

i bought the truck a week ago from a guy in markham. it was his wife's truck.

my intent was to buy a 4x4 for the winter. i saw this truck and couldn't pass it up.
i'm not too big on lifting trucks. there are no driveline angle problems so what's the big deal?

Ah, so you're the new owner. I used to see it every morning on my way to work around McCowan & Steeles. It was an Asian lady that drove it.

Did you raise the truck a bit because I could've sworn it was lower in the front.

[headkase33]

Who said anything about lifting a 2WD? I'm not saying either way is right or wrong, I merely wanted to know if there was some benefit to lowering a 4WD vice a 2WD.

I think lowering a 4WD because of road conditions is a fantastic idea.

I think lifting a 2WD is ok if you were just going for the look.

[BlazinX]

I think lifting a 2WD is ok if you were just going for the look.
Kinda like lowering a 4WD is ok if you were just going for teh look. :eek:

[headkase33]

Actually, looking back over the last year how much off-roading I've done and the price to lift 4WDs, I wish I would have got a 2WD and just lifted it.

[thegreenmonster]

Ah, so you're the new owner. I used to see it every morning on my way to work around McCowan & Steeles. It was an Asian lady that drove it.

Did you raise the truck a bit because I could've sworn it was lower in the front.
that is the picture from the autotrader ad. i haven't done anything to it since i got it since it put me into a bit of debt. i haven't even had time to change the poorly modified headlights.

anyone have any stock headlights for sale??

[krazy10]

what do i need to lower an 05 CC 4x4..4/6? i know flip kit in the rear but what about the front? still want all the 4x4 stuff to work..

[yukon cornelius]

Spindles and keys for the front.

[stylinfosho]

Ok it looks like theres alot of questions and no answers so heres some answers to some questions. Their are Three ways to lower the nbs trucks 1. 2" spindles Belltech, Springtech, Mcgaughy's which ever your wallet prefers. 2. Djm 3" lower control arms, not recommended to use with spindles 3. 3" keys by belltech. The lower control arms and keys can be used for a 5-6 inch drop or Spindles and keys for 5 inch drop. Hope this answers some questions im in the process of lowering one myself. And yes the 3/4 ton keys are lowering keys for 1/2 tons.

[krazy10]

i thought you couldnt use LCA's to lower the 4x4s because of the keys? question for you guys
2wd- 2"spindles, 2"lowering springs
4wd- 2"spindles, lowering keys
-flip kit in the rear

both of these and up the same height in the end? 4/6??
or will the 4wd still be slightly higher?

[stylinfosho]

No they make 4wd Lca's and there 3" They make 4" Lca's for 2wd trucks. And as for the question on the 4/6 drop yes they should be close to the same A 4/6 drop is like a 5/8 on 4wd which is what GM Racer on GM Fullsize has and what i will have.

[low4x4]

i'm running a 95 gmc 1500 ..lowered 5 front with just keys and 6 rear ..4 inch drop shackeles and hangers ...then changed out to a 2500 rear...spring perches gave up another 1" and new springs gave me another 1"...every things brand new...just finished a frame off

[yukon cornelius]

i'm running a 95 gmc 1500 ..lowered 5 front with just keys and 6 rear ..4 inch drop shackeles and hangers ...then changed out to a 2500 rear...spring perches gave up another 1" and new springs gave me another 1"...every things brand new...just finished a frame off

Pics please!

[stylinfosho]

:nopics:

[92SierraTBI]

:nopics:
yep

[donit]

I found a post in another site a guy mentioned flipping the torsion keys to lower the front of a 4x4 down more than 3", does anyone no if this is possible ? He also posted "a plate, welded on the crossmember under the torsion key, and installed a bolt through that new plate...fully adjustable suspension in the front from 1"-6"... IS THIS POSSIBLE ????

[studebaker51]

Has anybody tried ?: http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/csd/full.asp?page=97

[xbmx4lif3x]

hello i hope to lower my gmc 1500 xc soon and i was wondering if anyone can tell me every thing i need to do this. Also i was wondering if its possible to swap my engine for a 454 ss?

I am greatful for any help. thank you=)

[spot me 2]

Well now that I have it done (the suspension anyways), I will check in. I did a shackle/ hanger drop in the back. 3.5/4 drop.
The old look

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h9/spotme2/100_3107.jpg

And the new....

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h9/spotme2/100_4766.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h9/spotme2/100_4771.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h9/spotme2/100_4774.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h9/spotme2/100_4776.jpg

Next will be an engine build......:55: :devil: :devil: :devil:

[tahoehtp]

looking real nice witht he drop and new rims on!
what u gonna do with the engine next?

[spot me 2]

Heads, cam, roller rockers, long tubes, blah blah......
I haven't decided if I'm going to rebuild/stroke my bottom end, or just sell it and get the gmpp ht383e crate motor???? I've seen it as cheap as $4250. Then again, That kind of $$$$ would do a very nice rebuild on mine!!!
http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/EngineShowcase/index.jsp?engId=HT383&engine=HT%20383&sku=12499101&engCat=sb

[tahoehtp]

Heads, cam, roller rockers, long tubes, blah blah......
I haven't decided if I'm going to rebuild/stroke my bottom end, or just sell it and get the gmpp ht383e crate motor???? I've seen it as cheap as $4250. Then again, That kind of $$$$ would do a very nice rebuild on mine!!!
http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/EngineShowcase/index.jsp?engId=HT383&engine=HT%20383&sku=12499101&engCat=sb
I was thinking about HT383e as well... and though it might be cheaper to get rebuilt and also get rebuilt trans with that price.... so I'm debating... I got 180k on my engine and trans... trans been rebuilt though needs new valve body...

[spot me 2]

I've got 119000 on the clock. Mostly towwing miles. Still on the stock trans,so I know that will need to be upgraded as well.

[tahoehtp]

I've got 119000 on the clock. Mostly towwing miles. Still on the stock trans,so I know that will need to be upgraded as well.
that's about same mileage when I bought my tahoe..
I think I need at least rebuilt one or new engine for mine..

[spot me 2]

that's about same mileage when I bought my tahoe..
I think I need at least rebuilt one or new engine for mine..
I've been thinking of doing the heads, cam, and exhaust now. I can just swap it over to a new short block later. I'll do the trans when it goes.

[Downlow 2]

:rocking: Spot me 2
NICE ride!!! Looks realy good lowered!:rocking:

[tvcomputerwiz]

hey i have a 79 scottsdale c10 im coverting to a 4x4. id like to lower it after i do the conversion. im a 18 yr old hs student and i dont have much $. can i just go with a simple FIXED ride height kit or would it really be a necessity to go with a whole air bag system? if so whats the best one for your $$? thanks.

[spot me 2]

Leave it 2wd. Easier and cheaper to lower.

[achidotcom]

98 burb 3/4 drop belltech shocks, shackles, hangars, and keys.
24x10 boss 330, 275-30-24 rubber bands.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z314/achidotcom/S6300139.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z314/achidotcom/S6300138.jpg

[gooberchevy]

Looking real fresh man...sweet 'burb!

[achidotcom]

Looking real fresh man...sweet 'burb!

thanks.

[2LOW4ND]

Has anybody tried ?: http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/csd/full.asp?page=97


Thanks for the newb post... But that doesnt help anyone out. Everyone here is already running those.

I have now sold my bagged 4wd about 3 years ago. But i started this thread and im here to help. But that link is basic drops for 2wd... haha.

[2LOW4ND]

hey i have a 79 scottsdale c10 im coverting to a 4x4. id like to lower it after i do the conversion. im a 18 yr old hs student and i dont have much $. can i just go with a simple FIXED ride height kit or would it really be a necessity to go with a whole air bag system? if so whats the best one for your $$? thanks.


If you want to go low for cheap.

NEVER TRY TO LOWER A 4x4!

Keep it 2wd.

[PhoenixRising]

Hey All,

I have a 2004 Chevy Avalanche Z71 4X4 and I am trying to bag it. I know that it would take some serious custom work to get it bagged but I am wondering why, (I am new to bagging so I might just be niave) that with a 4x4 if you wanted to use 4x4 as long as you have one preset height that returns you back to stock height wouldn't that be ok? I mean theoretically it would return all drive angles etc back to stock configuration. Again I might just be way off the mark here.

[gooberchevy]

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/general-discussion/street/4x4-street/175957-blown-n-bagged-4wd-56k-warning.html

Take a look at that. The cv axles actually align better when slightly lower, so that is not so much the issue. After you get done reading through that, 2LO4ND actually reported his 4x4 was still very functional when aired out.

The problem is
1. Like you said you have to have some custom bag mounts fabbed up. Take a look at his after you scroll down a bucnch.
2. Mostlikely you will not be able to fully lay out, which most guys end up doing eventually. This is where the cv's probably play a bad roll.
3. Its not a problem on a NBS, but on the OBS the front wheels stick out more, so its hard to find rims to tuck. But you would be fine.

Basically the rear can be done just like any truck. The front is where the issues start. This can be made easier by removing the cv's, there by eliminating the 4x4.

So if you do get real serious about it you have to ask yourself these questions/what are you goals?

Do you want to fully lay out?

or

Do you want to have air ride and not be able to fully lay?

Keep asking questions, after searching around the forum a bit. Hope this helps you out a bit.

[bftiedt]

i did mine by taking the 4x4 out and it was still alot of work

[donit]

what all is required to remove the 4x4 and have a functional safe ride ?

[tahoehtp]

gooberchevy, rims to tuck isn't that hard man.
I used +15 offset on 20x8.5 and it tucks.(if you are planning to bag)
yes it is wider on front on OBS, but wheel travels different way so I'm able to tuck it.
well I haven't worked on the front bumpstop yet to go all the way down, but I used rim I had previously and no prob.
this is when it was lowered, you can clearly see that tires will pop out.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2140000-2140999/2140931_92_full.jpg
and bagged, that same rims will tuck in.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2140000-2140999/2140931_129_full.jpg

[pottsman71574]

Hi everyone, I'm new to this site. I have a 2005 4x4 extended cab Silverado and am considering purchasing the McGaughy's 2"/3.5" spindle/shackle/hanger kit to drop my truck a little bit. I have a couple of questions:

-If I remove the factory blocks from the rear axle, would that 3.5" become 5.5"? Is there any reason I wouldn't want to do both?
-Could I combine the spindles with new torsion bar keys to achieve 4" in the front? Again, is there any reason I wouldn't want to do both?
-I can't do this work myself, so I want to take my truck to a local shop to do the work. However, before I buy the kit, I'd like to get some idea what they'd charge me to install it. They'll need the instructions, however, to know how much work will be involved. So does anyone have the instructions, and if so, would you be willing to provide them to me to take to shops to get estimates on the installation work?

Thanks in advance for the help!

[97'hoe350]

heres a pic of my project so far. got a list of FUTURE mods in my sig. for now im lookin to get a new grill and a functional ram air hood. dont know what type yet though. too many people have cowls. want something different.
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb171/jumpinjazz/tahoeedited.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb171/jumpinjazz/tahoeedited2.jpg

got a 3/4 drop.

[thegreenmonster]

nice truck

[2LOW4ND]

Thanks for taking care of this thread you 4x4 guys. Since i sold my bagged 4x4 project, i just dont keep up with this thread much.

I did bag the 2wd very simple.

Just a side note.

Keep on keeping on guys.

[97'hoe350]

nice truck

thanks man worked pretty hard on it. :) worth it though.

[tahoehtp]

Thanks for taking care of this thread you 4x4 guys. Since i sold my bagged 4x4 project, i just dont keep up with this thread much.

I did bag the 2wd very simple.

Just a side note.

Keep on keeping on guys.

yeah
definatly agree that 2wd is easier on obs.

[akjay907]

anyone have a 2/4 on an 88-98 single cab short bed?

[kimswang]

Just out of curiosity and I am not being an a$$hole, but why would you buy a 4x4 with the intent of lowering it? IMHO, its like taking a honda and lifting it...it just doesn't make sense.

There must be some benefit that I'm missing

For one purpose, and one purpose only - to get my 12.000lbs boat out of the water and up the ramp. Do not go offroad, and like the stability, fuel economy, performance, and look of a normal height vehicle (like a Sub dropped 3/5), but do not like to get stuck on a ramp or while in Utah skiing.

[akjay907]

yeah, im lowering my K1500 2/4...i dont go off road or anything, but i do still need the 4WD for the winter because its gonna be my daily driver.

what are those rear blocks for? can i remove them?

[2LOW4ND]

yeah, im lowering my K1500 2/4...i dont go off road or anything, but i do still need the 4WD for the winter because its gonna be my daily driver.

what are those rear blocks for? can i remove them?


Take the rear blocks out. you will be fine.

[donit]

Can someone tell me what would be a good kit to bag the rear of my 1994 fs blazer 4x4. Im looking for something not to difficult to install but of good quality.

[4LOW_HI_style]

ho wassup guys, im new to posting in these forums but have been lookin for a while. i have a 2007 NBS crew cab silverado 4x4. its got a McGaughy's 4/7 lowering kit (2"spindles, 2" coils up front and a 7" flip kit in the rear). this kit does not require a c-notch in the rear due to a high frame rail on the NBS. 22x9.5 kmc rockstars matte black with +38 offset 305/40/22 nitto 420. CGS catback exhaust. recon cab smoked out cab lights. more to come soon........


these pics dont have the wheels and cab lights on yet. i will update photos soon as i get my camera back. sorry if the pics are big


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/farfrupuken/mytruck.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/farfrupuken/mytruck1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/farfrupuken/mytruck4.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/farfrupuken/mytruck5.jpg

[tahoehtp]

so this is latest pic and really clean pic. makes a difference when someone knows how to use camera take a pic...
http://www.siili.net/auto/hinlow.jpg
I'm gonna put the stock grill back on and chrome bumper.
rust spots to fix then will be painted orange.

[yea its stock]

well you guys finally made me decide to lower my mine instead of rasing it up.. right now it has the belltech shackles, removed the rear blocks.. turned the torsion bars down in the front.. i got the belltech 2" spindles, im just waiting on the the djm rear hanger to come in.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r276/solo89hatch/SANY0821.jpg

i know this one is dark.. it was getting late in the day

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r276/solo89hatch/SANY0822.jpg

[slamnfx]

Well well well.... i though i was the only crazy out there fool enough to get stuck with a 4x when i wanted a 2wd.... then cut it, hydraulic it, rock it... get bored then bag it.... hahahaha everyone has some tight whips on here...

SVRDHOE.... ride formally know as 4x4.... its sits just as you see it here for sale if anyone is interested!

Removed trans case, modified drive shaft, bagged, notched, linked. lays frame on dubs, kandied, flaked, satin, leaf, beats, screens, caddy clipped, shaved...sheesh where did all my money go. Bout the only thing a beefy hoe frame is really good for is draggin on the 101 free way. hahaha


http://kreativeautokoncepts.homestead.com/files/Kreative/images/MYHOE/DSC00733v1.jpg

http://kreativeautokoncepts.homestead.com/files/Kreative/images/MYHOE/DSC00732.JPG

http://kreativeautokoncepts.homestead.com/files/Kreative/images/MYHOE/DSC00731.JPG

http://kreativeautokoncepts.homestead.com/files/Kreative/images/MYHOE/DSC00730.JPG

http://kreativeautokoncepts.homestead.com/files/Kreative/images/MYHOE/DSC00729.JPG

http://kreativeautokoncepts.homestead.com/files/Kreative/images/MYHOE/DSC00735.JPG

http://kreativeautokoncepts.homestead.com/files/Kreative/images/MYHOE/DSC00734.JPG

[tahoehtp]

SLAMNFX, what did you do on driveshaft? I see you tok transfercase so you have custommade driveshaft in it?

[tahoehtp]

took one shot of pic before going to paint...
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2140000-2140999/2140931_217_full.jpg
will be lot different when it's back, and also with clear lights and chrome stock grill......

[tahoehtp]

ok this is how it look now

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2140000-2140999/2140931_234_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2140000-2140999/2140931_232_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2140000-2140999/2140931_233_full.jpg
will have bowtie matched color, and maybe smoothie bumper?

[fire4life]

I am glad I found this sight. I am new to all this and I am wanting to drop my 06 silverado z71 4x4 crew cab to the ground but i am trying to stay away from c-notch. what are some of the other option to be able to keep the 4x4 and how low do you think i would be able to go??? any and all help is greatly appreciated...

[YenkoST]

Checking in....
2002 ECSB Z71 with a 1"/2" drop.

[92SierraTBI]

here!92 with 2''drop in the rear,want to go another 2''front and back.