View Full Version : 20"s on crew cabs


special_k
03-08-2006, 02:09 PM
has anyone heard any more info regarding no 20" or plus size rims on crew cabs made before april 2005? i just left dicount tire and they won't touch my truck until they get some type of verification that its ok. i guess it has something to do with the hangers.

Bagged02
03-08-2006, 02:13 PM
screw discount. Overpriced IMO. do they have a tire barn there

special_k
03-08-2006, 02:14 PM
heres the official word from G.M.
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Effective immediately, we have been advised by GM Vehicle Engineering to stop selling dealer installed 20-Inch Plus-Size Wheels offered as Chevrolet or GMC Accessories on the 1500 Crew Cab version of Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra Light Duty Pickups (Models C and K 15543, CC15543, CK15543, TC15543, TK15543). The stop sell is only for the crew cab - no other body styles are impacted. Continued durability and validation testing has identified a long-term durability issue that could potentially damage a suspension bracket and the vehicle’s frame. Changes to the crew cab have been identified and will be implemented next year. Until further notification, 20 Inch Plus Size Wheels are no longer valid for this body style. Since the crew cab has a unique suspension bracket interface to the frame, this condition does not apply to other body styles.

All crew cabs equipped with 20 inch plus size wheels in dealer inventory should not be sold. The original tire and wheels from the factory should be reinstalled. Accessory Distributor Installers (ADIs) have been asked to assist dealers where applicable in restoring crew cabs outfitted with 20 inch plus size wheels in inventory back to the original factory wheels. Further instructions will follow relative to actions, if any that may be required for customer owned crew cabs with 20 inch plus size wheels. We appreciate your support in working through this situation. It is because GM thoroughly validates its wheel and tire systems to each vehicle application that this condition was found. Please remember that only GM approved wheel/tire combinations should be put on the impacted vehicles without putting the vehicle at risk.

Chevrolet and GMC 20-inch Plus Size wheels may continue to be installed on all other previously communicated full size truck and utility applications.

Izzy
03-08-2006, 02:16 PM
screw discount. Overpriced IMO. do they have a tire barn there
:LOL: They will match any price in town and I have had probably 6 tires replaced through the road hazzard for $15 each.

Bagged02
03-08-2006, 02:18 PM
IZZY: 2 bad they dont offer road hazard on 22's...thats the only part that sucks

special_k
03-08-2006, 02:21 PM
the reason why i'm going through discount is because i have a buddy that works there and employees get crazy discounts.

Bagged02
03-08-2006, 02:21 PM
dicount but they cant put the tires on for ya......

Izzy
03-08-2006, 02:28 PM
dicount but they cant put the tires on for ya......
What? I just had them put some tires on my new wheels. Granted they put a small scratch on one but compensated me.

Izzy
03-08-2006, 02:30 PM
IZZY: 2 bad they dont offer road hazard on 22's...thats the only part that sucks
Yet again, what? They offer road hazzard on every tire they sell. :think:

Bagged02
03-08-2006, 02:31 PM
:bye: i just left dicount tire and they won't touch my truck until they get some type of verification that its ok.

:bye:

Bagged02
03-08-2006, 02:32 PM
Yet again, what? They offer road hazzard on every tire they sell. :think:


u mean tire barn does? If so not the ones up here where i live. Maybe it also depends on the size of the sidewall.

Izzy
03-08-2006, 02:34 PM
u mean tire barn does? If so not the ones up here where i live. Maybe it also depends on the size of the sidewall.
No, I'm talking about Discount.

layedoutnoma
03-09-2006, 07:16 AM
around me in MI discount is great... skilled on puttin on large rim and tire combos and great prices.. and yes road hazzard on my 22's

loburb
03-09-2006, 07:49 AM
It looks like they fixed the problem so could you just take the offending bracket off of the next year truck and install it then you could mount the 20's. just my .02

JB
03-09-2006, 07:53 AM
I just had 20's put on my truck from discount. I have the new style bracket but they didnt go look at my truck before they sold them to me. Discount tire is great and they will price match. I took a print out from www.tirerack.com and they matched the price. They mounted mine and did the load force balance and didnt put a scratch on mine. Im very happy :D

KylePBZ
03-09-2006, 09:24 AM
I just had 20's put on my truck from discount. I have the new style bracket but they didnt go look at my truck before they sold them to me. Discount tire is great and they will price match. I took a print out from www.tirerack.com and they matched the price. They mounted mine and did the load force balance and didnt put a scratch on mine. Im very happy :D


So WTF is the problem and what bracket needs replaced? I don't to be sliding down the highway on the frame when something breaks!:banghead:

special_k
03-09-2006, 10:39 AM
after some research, i found out that its not a safety issue but a sound issue. the chances of ones truck having a problem caused by the hanger are slim to none but GM still doesn't want to take a chance. i guess after a very long period of use the bushings might wear out due to the hanger design and cause a noice issue. i don't plan on keeping the truck long enough to see the problem begin to happen. i'm going to put 20's on anyways, so i'll just have to go around letting Discount install my wheels. and since the hangers are welded on you can't just put the newer design on.

Izzy
03-09-2006, 10:43 AM
after some research, i found out that its not a safety issue but a sound issue. the chances of ones truck having a problem caused by the hanger are slim to none but GM still doesn't want to take a chance. i guess after a very long period of use the bushings might wear out due to the hanger design and cause a noice issue. i don't plan on keeping the truck long enough to see the problem begin to happen. i'm going to put 20's on anyways, so i'll just have to go around letting Discount install my wheels. and since the hangers are welded on you can't just put the newer design on.
From what Mark said they weld in a new piece from the top of the hanger to the frame.

KylePBZ
03-09-2006, 08:40 PM
Is there some kind of recall on this or what?!

p-ton
03-09-2006, 09:56 PM
been looking at getting a crew cab myself and am curious as to what year models this actually affects

JB
03-10-2006, 08:00 AM
Its only the 04's and very early 05's. Mine has the new style which is alot beefier than just an added bracket as you can see from the pics.

Old style 2004 hanger bracket

http://a8.cpimg.com/image/CA/59/50721738-07dc-021C0195-.jpg



My 2005 redesigned hanger

http://a6.cpimg.com/image/6E/5E/49761646-9a2c-02000180-.jpg

The VIN breakpoint is 51334946. Anything built after that is ok, any built before has the original design. Those numbers are the last 8 of your VIN.

KylePBZ
03-10-2006, 08:16 AM
Its only the 04's and very early 05's. Mine has the new style which is alot beefier than just an added bracket as you can see from the pics.

Old style 2004 hanger bracket

http://a8.cpimg.com/image/CA/59/50721738-07dc-021C0195-.jpg



My 2005 redesigned hanger

http://a6.cpimg.com/image/6E/5E/49761646-9a2c-02000180-.jpg

The VIN breakpoint is 51334946. Anything built after that is ok, any built before has the original design. Those numbers are the last 8 of your VIN.


Well, mine is #41355163. I guess I'm *****ed!:nopity:

KylePBZ
03-10-2006, 08:19 AM
Although, looking at it, since they are welded on, my old style doesn't look that hard to remove. I wounder if I could cut that off and put a lowering hanger in it's place and be better off in the end?

special_k
03-10-2006, 08:52 AM
there is no recall. i guess its not a safety issue. i'm still going to put 20's on my ride but i'll have to get my hands dirty and do it myself. Gm can't expect me to drive my truck around having it looking like a retired grandpa owns it now can they.

JB
03-10-2006, 09:34 AM
:LOL:
Exactly, its not a safety issue, nothings gonna crack and fall off. Just get your tires/wheels and bolt them up in the driveway :D

Mark
03-10-2006, 09:50 AM
Not a safety issue, just noise. And to be honest we had a truck come into our dealership here who had that squeaking noise coming from the hanger and he didn't even had 20" wheels.

KylePBZ
03-10-2006, 12:33 PM
Good to know, thanks Mark!

poboychevy
03-10-2006, 07:34 PM
ok......first off that doesnt make any sense at all........i mean think about it......if the stock rims w/tires measures about 26" or so and you put 20'' wheels and tires that measure the same whats the diff.

JB
03-10-2006, 08:07 PM
ok......first off that doesnt make any sense at all........i mean think about it......if the stock rims w/tires measures about 26" or so and you put 20'' wheels and tires that measure the same whats the diff.

Chrome 20's weigh approx 40lbs ea, and the factory 20's and 275/55/20's measure closer to 32" tall so its a big difference. However I agree I dont see how this can effect that spring hanger.

KylePBZ
03-11-2006, 06:02 PM
Chrome 20's weigh approx 40lbs ea, and the factory 20's and 275/55/20's measure closer to 32" tall so its a big difference. However I agree I dont see how this can effect that spring hanger.


Kinda what I was wondering? What the hell would that do to make a noise? It seems that the weight of the truck would affect that, not the wheels.