my baggin project

[bootie]

i was planning on gettin a new rollpan with a box this winter anyway, no i just have less to cut lol

[TOFNLO]

that will buff right out

[bootie]

pretty much, all i know now is that it throws some very nice spranks, you can clearly see it during the day lol

[sLOWrado01]

damn. pics like that make me scared to weld in the rollpan sitting in my apartment...

[Nickleahy23]

damn that sucks...2nd person ive seen do that in a few weeks..mabye i should just keep the bumper on lol..truck is lookin sweet though bootie

[Bagged 04]

That sucks.

[12trnhdz]

Lookin good bootie, that sux about the rollpan.
I like the mounting location of the gas cap. Very cool.

[project 92]

A rollpan for the wall of shrapnel!!!

[bootie]

thanks guys, i have no regrets about the rollpan, it happens, all it does is makes you wanna do is something better, like i said i was gonna put a diferent one anyways over the winter, thatjust saved me some cutting later one lol

[92 sierra slx]

damn that pan got f#cked up

[bootie]

just found these on the gauge site, figured id share

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/tfunkarony/gauge.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/tfunkarony/gauge2.jpg

[LOWZ71]

That looks sick shooting sparks like that. Are you going to put a drag bar or blocks back there?

[ikon]

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/secsi_ikon/GaugeMagazine_2007_ITB_022.jpg

drag body bootie

[bootie]

That looks sick shooting sparks like that. Are you going to put a drag bar or blocks back there?
im working on something with some trailer balls, but i have some other things to do before i get that far

[ikon]

updates son?

[bootie]

lets see, i have no rear brakes due to my rear brake lines snapping off at the drum on both sides

[indiglo5997]

lets see, i have no rear brakes due to my rear brake lines snapping off at the drum on both sides

How did they snap off?

[LOWZ71]

:eek:

[92 sierra slx]

how the f*ck'd you do that

[ikon]

youll have that when you go low...

[jimhrabe]

yikes!!!!

[indiglo5997]

youll have that when you go low...


I go low all the time and don't have problems, perhaps he forgot to lengthen his soft line in between the frame rail hard line and the brake block on the diff. if that is too short i can see going down and due to the lack of length it would rip out taking the hard line going to the drums with it that is connected to the brake block

[ikon]

its an inside joke man...

[bootie]

its an inside joke man...
yes it is lol, i dont know how it happened, but all i know is theyre broke off the fittings in the drum, didnt even know which was better, somebody else noticed my right rear wheel was filthy and i looked and noticed it was caked in oil and then i saw the brake line, but its gonna get fixed lol

[bootie]

well got the brake lines fiexed, and started workin on the filler plate again, all welded and ground down, ill try and remember to take my camera with me tomorow

[ikon]

sexy plexy bootie...when are you gonna redo myne <3 haha

[parkinglotking]

this is the best build forum ive ever found. great job awsome truck. it has inspired alot of ideas

[ikon]

Just wait till you see the awesomeness that came out of those AVS arms...all i gotta say is...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/secsi_ikon/IMG_5777Custom.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/secsi_ikon/IMG_5773Custom.jpg

[Marcos]

How did that happen?

[krismhynum]

:wtf: happened?

[bootie]

somehow the castle nut on the balljoint sheared the cotter pin and came loose and the control arm popped off and ate the ground, i dont know if that balljoint caused it to happen, but i cant see the control arm hitting the ground doing that a balljoint, so i had to cutaway the grinded metal around the ball joint cup and press that one out and i put a moog ball joint in, but as that happened it also destroyed my bag
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/tfunkarony/rockford4.jpg

[2inchesTooLow]

oooouch.....

I'm not questioning you...but did you torque the castle nut on before putting in the cotter pin?

Only reason I ask is that I saw something similar happen on one that was basically only snugged and cotter pinned...if that makes sense....I guess the ball joint started to slop around when driven, distroyed the joint,in this case..the ball joint completely failed....I have no idea what kind of ball joint it was..or anything else...it was just on a truck that came into a shop I used to hang around at....

I think its 80ftlbs, then slightly backed off if necessary to install the pin.....

[bootie]

ive never torqued it down, ive always just just hand tightened then a turn or more past til the cotter pin can be put in

[ikon]

werd

[2inchesTooLow]

ive never torqued it down, ive always just just hand tightened then a turn or more past til the cotter pin can be put in


well....I don't know what else to say :dunno: ....its really not like bearings on a spindle...where you gently tighten them in to seat the races...and then back out and finger tighten the crown nut.

Ball joints are tapper fit...and everywhere I have read ....shop manuals....instructions from belltech for spindle install...it says to torque them to 80 ft lbs...all the action is in the joint...the tapper pin needs to be tight in its socket (on the spindle)..any play here, amplifies the forces in the joint itself...and as the pressure comes on the crown nut...since it is not held tight with ample torque, would work on the cotter pin..the thrust forces are different here than on your axel nut...the washer and crown nut on the spindle itself are there to retain the bearing on the spindle....all the forces are working perpendicular to the axel...with your ball joint...the forces are acting parrallel to the joint shaft...any room for play..even if its minor...will only amplify under the torque applied while your driving etc.

I could be way out to lunch here...but thats the way I see it....it may have nothing to do with what happened...but I would guess that it played a role.

80 ft lbs doesn't really feel like much when you are torquing it...one turn past finger tight could be close?
I'd check in this when you are reinstalling them...just a thought.

[parkinglotking]

the bag with the tumor may not be because of the control arm. i know of 4 people with slams re7's that are doing that i have to check mine to make sure they arent. but its a commmon problem and i think slam may do something about it its worth a shot even if it from the arm they dont know that. sorry for the hard luck keep the thread goin

[ikon]

well....I don't know what else to say :dunno: ....its really not like bearings on a spindle...where you gently tighten them in to seat the races...and then back out and finger tighten the crown nut.

Ball joints are tapper fit...and everywhere I have read ....shop manuals....instructions from belltech for spindle install...it says to torque them to 80 ft lbs...all the action is in the joint...the tapper pin needs to be tight in its socket (on the spindle)..any play here, amplifies the forces in the joint itself...and as the pressure comes on the crown nut...since it is not held tight with ample torque, would work on the cotter pin..the thrust forces are different here than on your axel nut...the washer and crown nut on the spindle itself are there to retain the bearing on the spindle....all the forces are working perpendicular to the axel...with your ball joint...the forces are acting parrallel to the joint shaft...any room for play..even if its minor...will only amplify under the torque applied while your driving etc.

I could be way out to lunch here...but thats the way I see it....it may have nothing to do with what happened...but I would guess that it played a role.

80 ft lbs doesn't really feel like much when you are torquing it...one turn past finger tight could be close?
I'd check in this when you are reinstalling them...just a thought.

Must be a canadian thing?

[jimhrabe]

Ouch!!

[PONCHO FRAILEY]

wow re7's do that

[parkinglotking]

that have been. the rubber seperates from the liner and air gets in there. its a common defect

[PONCHO FRAILEY]

are you sure its not preagnant and having baby air bags?

[samson7x]

wouldnt that be nice...have a litter of 4 new re7's...err i guess they would be re6's as newborns ????

[PONCHO FRAILEY]

No It Would Have The Little Single Tube Bags

[2inchesTooLow]

Must be a canadian thing?
Could be...:aniteef:

[bootie]

i know for a fact the bag wasnt like that before the control arm incident, cause it was all up in the pocket, and there was only one rub mark on it, but on the balljoint part, everyone ive ever done was just tighen by hand and then some ebough to get the cotter pin in, ive been told by mechanics along with a bunch of people and this is the first time ive ever seen this happen

[Beyond Static©]

quite a few guys on SSM are having slams that the rubber seperates, and causes bubbles. Slam will warranty it. I dont think the control arm caused the bubble. If anything, I would see the bag popping instead of bubbling

[bootie]

i dont think it was like that, i mean if it was i would have been rubbing the pocket hardcore and there was only one rub mark, and i wasnt shy to hit the switches either

[parkinglotking]

it was probably a combination of both. slams are extremely thick soo either way they will warranty it. my freind cut 1/8th into a slam once and its still on the truck.

[viclama03]

You should be fine.. Call Slam up and they'll replace it. I had that happen to one of my bags and they sent me a new one.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e142/vicalma03/Picture001.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e142/vicalma03/Picture004-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e142/vicalma03/Picture005.jpg

[bootie]

wow, you got me beat lol

[jimhrabe]

Any new carnage Bootie?

[bootie]

no sir, the truck has been put away for the winter

[LOWZ71]

Thats the best time to work on it. :D

[fullsize94]

hey guys... got a couple questions here... i started baggin my truck a week ago and i got it on the ground n the front today. but my question is, is there any kind of aftermarket ball joint for the tie-rod ends cuz it looks like they are n a bind? second is i got the same arms as bootie and my shock tabs drop down instead of like booties and come up? is this gonna matter and is this bad? lol

[99gixxer]

moog ball joints will help your binding problem. what size tires you runnin & do you have drop spindles?

[Bagged 04]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e142/vicalma03/Picture004-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e142/vicalma03/Picture005.jpg

Thats funny looking.

[fullsize94]

moog ball joints will help your binding problem. what size tires you runnin & do you have drop spindles?

sweet! where can i get these? and no im not runnin drop spindles. i ordered some but they didnt come n so we got it to lay crossmember wit out em. and im runnin 265/35/22 tires.

[99gixxer]

sweet! where can i get these? and no im not runnin drop spindles. i ordered some but they didnt come n so we got it to lay crossmember wit out em. and im runnin 265/35/22 tires.

we get the ball joints from bumper to bumper. i dont know who all sells moog, maybe oreily's or advanced. i dont know if autozone has them.

[92 sierra slx]

autozone doesnt sell them napa or oreillys both sell them not sure about advance but im 200% sure autozone dont and 100% sure oreillys does

[bootie]

the shock tabs shouldnt really matter as long as they work were theyre at, but oreilys def sells moogs, since ithats were i had to get when the balljoint failed in rockford

[Kruznlow69]

car-quest sells them

[fullsize94]

okay it seems like u guys are talkin about the ball joints n the control arms. i am talkin about the outer tie rod ends. and the factory ones are bindin up so can i get some tht maybe poviot a lil more or somethin at these places?

[shave05]

make sleeve that adapts your inner tie rod end to a heim joint and run that

[AZdragginsoon]

hey bootie i was readin through hear and i have the same problem you had my truck wont shift out of park and my key wont come out of the ignition.... it all happend after i drooped the column to get the dash out how did you fix yours?

[AZdragginsoon]

nice truck after seen ur pics it helped out alot on the front of mine it lays out now thanks , i kinda got the same back set up to its lookin sick....

[350Xccelerator]

looks great cant wait to see it complete

[92 sierra slx]

done anything to it sinceyou stored her away for winter??????

[pOrk]

Yea how about an update bootie?

[bootie]

Yea how about an update bootie?
its sitting in my driveway airred up for the last 3 weeks, 160 in the tank and sitting on stock wheels with 2 flats

[ikon]

nice

[bootie]

it doesnt get any more real than that lol

[96thebossgrnchv]

lol

[indiglo5997]

it doesnt get any more real than that lol

This is true and is kinda funny to picture, speaking of which would make it even more real a picture:lol:

[bootie]

This is true and is kinda funny to picture, speaking of which would make it even more real a picture:lol:
ill try and remember to grab a pic one of these days

as for an update i got everything to put my steering wheel in
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/tfunkarony/P1000728.jpg

[LOWZ71]

That is a sick steering wheel. What do wheels like that one run if you don't mind me asking?

[12trnhdz]

I think paid around 300 for mine. that was about 4 years ago.

[bootie]

list on the wheel alone is 224, i paid 160 and then 140 for everything else

[bootie]

This is true and is kinda funny to picture, speaking of which would make it even more real a picture:lol:
as requested, here are the pics of my truck in the driveway with two flats
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/tfunkarony/P1000809.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/tfunkarony/P1000810.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/tfunkarony/P1000811.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/tfunkarony/P1000812.jpg

[indiglo5997]

:lol: you are not kiddying, damn that roll pan is looking nice, you do your own body work or is that courtesy of a US interstate? Even in its less then steller state your truck still is SICK!

[bootie]

lol i hit something on the road and tore it all up, but thanks man its def not in its show figure lol

[92 sierra slx]

lol i hit something on the road and tore it all up, but thanks man its def not in its show figure lol
you got that right
oh well springs around the corner
fix that pan andput your wheel on

[bootie]

you got that right
oh well springs around the corner
fix that pan andput your wheel on
yea, im gonna do a cali combo here soon and get it painted hopefully before the summer, o we'll see how that goes

[ikon]

sexy boots

[bootie]

just to let you guys know, i havent really hadt the time or money to work on the truck, but i do have a new update, i installed the billet wheel and mirror and the roll pan has gotten even worse lol, so a cal combo will be being ordered hopefully before indy truck bash and im hoping to have it painted with hot rod flatz by then

[jimhrabe]

Good to see your still around Bootie!

[92 sierra slx]

holy hell he lives

[RaiN]

I need some god damn updates! I've lost inspiration!

[bootie]

the truck is still alive and the rollpan has gotten way worse, i have a new cali combo thats gonna go on sometime this winter and perhaps a solid color?

[jimhrabe]

Bootie really is alive!!!!! I've heard rumors but no confirmation! LOL

[92 sierra slx]

Bootie really is alive!!!!! I've heard rumors but no confirmation! LOL
i as well have heard these rumors

[gooberchevy]

Haha not sure if you've seen this bootie but at 1:30 in my vid from ITB you are continuing the destruction on that roll pan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bR8C4i73_g

[bibby]

bootie, do you ahve a liunk to your 4link? i cnat find it on suicides website. thx

[92 sierra slx]

im pretty sure he bought the parts from sd but there is not a kit you buy everything and fabricate your own

[bootie]

yes i am still very alive, the comuputer was not and i fianlly got it fixed, and that rollpan is even worse than it was in that video lol

As for the question about my four link, i had it made by suicidedoors.com, i just sent them the lengths and picked the ends and all the mounts and **** like that