Full frame build and 4 inch body drop. 98 OBS ECSB

[fabitup]

Front clip back frame and 4 inch bodydrop on 22" centerlines Archers

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Hope to get the main frame rails all finished up and welded to the front clip by the end of the month. Then I need to get another bender to start the mounts and other odds n ends. More pics as I go!


Well I got the rails tacked into the clip, then squared everything up.

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lol
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Double checked and made sure nothing moved then put some temporary cross members on it.....

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Main rails should be close to being done this weekend then comes the fun stuff!

:( I still need a bender though......

[fabitup]

Well just went out and took some measurments today and then came back and started designing the 4 link.....

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This is pretty much 98% the way its going to be set up.


Got some more done today...

Time to start tackin!

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Florida+humid=****ty rusty frame :(

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Thanks florida!

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Outer frame is pretty much done, just a little more welding...

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now the fun stuff! But the original plan for the supercharged 5.3 isnt going to happen yet :( Looking to sell my vortec v6 in order to buy the 5.3.

Well got the whole thing welded up today......

Preped up the frame first

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Then used my helper :)

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Then got to work

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Then flipper her over to finish up some stuff on the bottom....

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More stuff on tuesday! :TUP:

Got the front control arms done for the 22s. I had to take a little out of the frame so the front would lay out. Next is putting gussets in there and cleaning up the pockets so they look a little better.....

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also going to have to cut his cups down because the bags bottom out now with the control arms going so far up! Finally get to put the new (old) lathe to work!


This is all the posts of my project so far. My buddy at Otto's performance Fabrications is the builder. I will be doing all the body mods and paint. I am going to try to keep this updated throughout the build. Plan is to have the frame done and four linked by slamfest 10/6 of this year. I thought you guys might be interested it in. ;)

[crewon24s]

looks sic keep up the good work

[gmcontwentyz95]

sick work man good luck with the build and keep it updated love the welds and design

[fabitup]

will do. I got the metal today for the body mounts and for the gussets and to smooth the front clip to the new frame section. I should have more updated pics this week.

[Bagged 04]

Loook damn good. Just a word of adive your not going to go far unless you flip that rear axle around. :boobies:

[Izzy]

:cool: Damn nice work. It's nice to see someone chamfer their joints.

[99gixxer]

damn nice... & look at those welds:10:

[AntiBling]

:cool: Damn nice work. It's nice to see someone chamfer their joints.

:word:

[Marcos]

Loook damn good. Just a word of adive your not going to go far unless you flip that rear axle around. :boobies:

:LOL: works looks good!!!

and Izzy or Antibling, whats chamfer the joints?

EDIT: Nevermind I firgured it put.

[bignick31985]

That s*** looks sick man!

[2LOW4ND]

Omg Nice !!!!!!! Good Choice In Wheels Too.

[Kruznlow69]

Awesome man!! i'm gonna be watching you on this one. i'm 2-3 weeks away from a similar build! Looking forward to the front frame pics for the arm clearancing. My art arms are on the way too!! what wall tubing are you using? i was planning 2x4 .25 wall but keep getting told its too much. figured overkill cause of stretching for a crew cab.

Just a word of adive your not going to go far unless you flip that rear axle around. :boobies: i was thinking of some smart thing to say while reading and i missed out!

[drpdshrty]

nice work bro

[fabitup]

I decided to use 2x4 x3/8 wall but now that it is done we could have gone with 1/8 and been fine. I was afraid of lack of strength but I dont think it would have been a problem. I should have some more pics up tuesday. I had to stop to bag a ford lighning this weekend. should be back on it this week.

Thanks for all the positive response.

[tahoen]

Looks like some very fine work! Can't wait to see more!:thumbup:

[shakey]

This is definately going to be a build to watch!

[Fro]

Looking good, You going to have it done by Slamfest??? Come on man you can do it.

Your right about the humidity can't leave anything bare metal very long.

[Kruznlow69]

I decided to use 2x4 x3/8 wall but now that it is done we could have gone with 1/8 and been fine. I was afraid of lack of strength but I dont think it would have been a problem. I should have some more pics up tuesday. I had to stop to bag a ford lighning this weekend. should be back on it this week.

Thanks for all the positive response.

kewl, i'm guessing you meant 3/16" ??? i', sure i'll be overkill with 1/4 but whats an extra few pounds for my piece of mind? keep the pics coming.. lata

[Jimmy P]

nice work!

[fabitup]

kewl, i'm guessing you meant 3/16" ??? i', sure i'll be overkill with 1/4 but whats an extra few pounds for my piece of mind? keep the pics coming.. lata


Oopps...yes 3/16 wall. sorry for the confusion. We picked up some 1/8 thick sheet to do the cab mounts and the transitional section from the old frame clip to the box tubing. Four link parts will also be on there way this week. It is crunch time to have it done for slamfest but I believe we can do it. We have about 10 days of work in it right now. All that is left is minor detail work.

Josh

[ikon]

kewl, i'm guessing you meant 3/16" ??? i', sure i'll be overkill with 1/4 but whats an extra few pounds for my piece of mind? keep the pics coming.. lata

dont kick urself in the ass to much...i used 3/16" on my reg cab long bed and i got some frame flex going on...were gonna try to add a few x-members in select places to get rid of it. Kinda wish i woulda went with 1/4" myself. to late now haha

[fabitup]

more pics coming this next week.

[Marcos]

Hell yes!

[baggedcten]

nice build very nice

[demash]

sick build for sure! keep it going.

[Kruznlow69]

Glad to see the thread in here now, looking forward to the new pics.

This is where i got the idea for my frame layout.

[fabitup]

Can some one please move this thread to the project forum?

New pics coming tomorrow!!!

[GMracer]

can't wait!

[fabitup]

Ok I know I haven't updated in a while but I have had a run of alot of restoration work that got in the way. At this point the frame is just about done. Things left to do include the remaining cab mounts, lower bag plates on the 4 link. And to drop down the front frame horns. here are some pics of the recent progess.

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These are all obviously of the rear suspension setup. I decided to run a trianglated 4 link the bags on the bars. I did have a kp 6 link on it and it went back and forth quite a bit even with the panhard. This way it will stay where it needs to be. No eating up the lips on my new 22" wheels.

The bag mounts in the rear are setup as you can see. The middle connecting bars are not symmetric (on purpose)as you can see. What do you think if the design?

Finally you see my front cab mounts. The frame transition was welding in today but I forgot to take picks. I had originally thought that I needed to drop the body 4 inches but I decided to go with a 2.5 inch body drop.

I should have some more progress on the frame at the middle of the week. I am going to try to update more regularly. And it should be a rolling chassis by the end of the month with cab on.

Josh

[Pre-Game]

hey im liking this thread hehe work is looking mighty good ;-)

[Kruznlow69]

great update man. setup looks good! i ran a 6 link to save crucial space for a blow thru.. we even have the same welder!

[m3gumby]

I've never seen a drop like this. Looks SICK man. Imma follow this one

[skippydn]

sick build

[Inverter]

Why the a-symmetry on the bridge bars ? That would drive me nutz..

[sfsc]

Holy sickass welds batman.

[fabitup]

Why the a-symmetry on the bridge bars ? That would drive me nutz..

yeah I wasnt sure how it would look and when they were welded in I still wasn't sure but with the bars welded holding them on the frame it looks really nice I think. something different. Probably going to have my shop logo or club affiliation laser/water jet and welded in the middle but I havent joined a club yet....hopefully there will be an <> in there some day ;)

Josh

[Inverter]

yeah I wasnt sure how it would look and when they were welded in I still wasn't sure but with the bars welded holding them on the frame it looks really nice I think. something different. Probably going to have my shop logo or club affiliation laser/water jet and welded in the middle but I havent joined a club yet....hopefully there will be an <> in there some day ;)

Josh
The work is top notch for sure.The whole setup is cutting edge imo but when "I" look at that bridge my eyes go right to those 2center bars. Still looks good..

[fabitup]

Yeah I think alot of people will have the same reaction. Just sent in my application for the Tampa, FL severed ties chapter. Maybe there will be a nice water jetted <> in between there to take your eyes off the bars ;)

here is a rough rendering of the finished truck.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/rendering1.jpg

Josh

[Inverter]

Very nice.Less is more. So how does this application thing work? You send in photos of your work? Dont you need a completed vehicle before you can join?

[Bagged 04]

Nice update. Going to be a sick ride when done. I like those bars being a-symetric. Give it a nice twist to all the symetry of the frame.

[fabitup]

thanks....I agree.

About the app. I believe I can get in most clubs underconstruction.

[trayfoe]

:cool: Damn nice work. It's nice to see someone chamfer their joints.Thank you sir :) and thanks to everyone else for all the comments on the chassis.

[1lo98]

truck looks awesome!

[BagginA93chev]

thats an awesome looking frame, good work.

[DjLunchbox]

subscribing, kick ass work!

[Compressd]

Looks good. You do not have to have a completed ride to get in <ST>. I got in with my truck in half primer. Hope to see you at the meeting next month Fabitup

[fabitup]

Sweet. You will mos def see me at the meeting next month. If the truck moves along pretty quickly from now till then It might make it up as well.

Josh

[fabitup]

Ok quick update for the weekend and then please expect updates more frequent. I plan on working on it at a much faster rate now. here we go.

Four link is complete (minus lower bag mounts, but they have been ordered). Cab has been set on the frame. All the cab mounts have been cut and should be on the truck by weeks end. Also I have done some extra work to the front suspension that I have never seen done before (not saying I am the first but I have never seen it done this way). But I will have to get some pics, I forgot to take them today.

here are the pics

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/022808027.jpg
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[Xonair]

Looking good man.

[Inverter]

G/D the way the lower bar ends mount to the main rails is FN sweet. Want to see the front end mods you speak of.

[fabitup]

here is what I was talking about earlier this week. We cut the factory spring cup out completely and welding in the upper bag cup. This made for a really cool looking upper bag mount up front. Its probably been done before and you guys are going to be like...oh...thats it....but I have never seen it done and thought it looks bad ass.

here are the pics,

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/032508001.jpg
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This week I hope to have the cab mounts completed and the front frame horns dropped. And if I can get the tubs going? Maybe alittle too ambitious I think....hope not though.

Josh

[silverado96]

are those art lowers and avs uppers?

[trayfoe]

are those art lowers and avs uppers?Yes and KP uppers

[fabitup]

correction.....not KP uppers. They are KRZ customs uppers.

pretty similar to the art ones so I figured I would keep them. Bolt in ball joints....the lowers were sold because I didnt like them too much. Problems keeping ball joints pressed correctly. ART ones are sweet. never had it bagged on factory arms so I couldn't give you a comparison though....

More updates probably this weekend. I am trying to get the cab mounts lined up right. I cant find my cab bushings though....holding me up. Than its to the front frame horns and firewall tub action. Bottom bag mounts on the four link will be here tomorrow so they should be done as well.

Josh

[fabitup]

G/D the way the lower bar ends mount to the main rails is FN sweet. Want to see the front end mods you speak of.

Thank you...I appreciate that comment.

[fabitup]

Just a quick update. The cab is on and the truck is movable. I will have pictures for your viewing pleasure tomorrow.

Josh

[91HeavyChevy]

awesome work cant wait to see it finished

[fabitup]

Ok here are the pics of it laying firewall...hehe. I havent started tubbing the fire wall yet so the tires are firmly into the wall. the rockers sit about 3/4 inch lower than the rails. Here are the pics...

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/FamilyReunion72007021.jpg
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[fabitup]

Short update with hopefully another one tomorrow night....

I have one tub completed in the firewall. These are the pics of the holes just cut out nothing welded in yet. But it is laid out non the less.....Looks killer. For those of you in the southeast that have been watching this build. You can see the truck in person at Unite this may.

here are the pics.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/042208001.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/042208002.jpg
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http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/042208006.jpg

[ikon]

wow that tube work looks familiar??

[Xonair]

Sweet gullwing fender hahaha, jk man... trucks coming along nicely

[BHB]

Schweeet!!!!

[fabitup]

yeah I have not tubbed out the fender to the size of the new wheels yet and trayfoe had it on there correctly and I couldn't re do it for the life of me so you get super gull wing fender.

Josh

[trayfoe]

wow that tube work looks familiar??how so? I just had an idea of how I wanted it to look and started bending.

[1lo98]

awesome build man!

[fabitup]

Quick update. Got the front frame horns dropped and the fenders cut out to size. Front in roughed on. Trying to get the front end all together and the new motor (5.3 vortec) in it before it goes on the trailer for UNITE 08.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/DSCF0612.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/DSCF0613.jpg
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[poopskidz]

lookin pretty sick

[BagginA93chev]

nice!

[fabitup]

what do you guys think? Keep these 22's or upgrade to a 24 with a smaller tire? I am on the fence....and the screwed up part is these wheels have never seen the road :(

Josh

[framedraggin96]

keep the wheels you got, they look awesome on there, especially laid out!

[ikon]

how so? I just had an idea of how I wanted it to look and started bending.

i wont post pics...ill just say the person that its close to knows...

[DRAGGIN95]

Hello, as far as wheel size is concerned I like the 22's, but do what you like. Good luck with your project.

[BHB]

keep the 22s

[fabitup]

I went and looked at the 24' wheel prices and I have decided to keep the 22's. I should at least drive on them before I decide to upgrade. Plus I plan on driving this truck. No trailer queen here. so I think the bigger tire will be more comfortable. Thanks for the feed back.

As far as my rear suspension goes....I didn't model it after any one elses. The bars in the middle are also asymmetrical. If they do look close to some one elses it wasn't intentional. so who cares.

There is some one on this website that modeled their frame after mine almost exactly and I haven't raised a big stink....so let it go.

Josh

[Kruznlow69]

i wont post pics...ill just say the person that its close to knows...


I think He's calling my name.......

Ikon.. i modeled my frame off of some early pics of josh's build, look in the first page on this thread.. i really liked the design and rigidity it would create. post 27 to be exact

btw josh looking great.. 24's on a bodied daily seems very tough. im still trying to figure out a ride height with 22's.. thinking frame level, 5-6" off the ground. would like to get the ride height so wheels can turn w/o airing up.

[fabitup]

I don't think that you will be able to with out airing up the front. I was looking at mine today and there is no way I could make a sharp turn with out airing up the front most of the way.

thanks for straighting up that doods comment. ;)

I got the front end and bumper hung today. Me and Jay from Otto's performance fab (my frame engineer) are trying to get it all nice looking for UNITE 08. those in the south east should make sure they go to that show its going to be crazy.

Pics of the front end on the truck and maybe the motor in tomorrow ;)

Josh

[Kruznlow69]

well with my setup im yanking now i have a ton of clearance with tire to fender with the high offset of the rims. I used to keep my ride height too low and have to air up for right turns especially, with 1/2" fills it got annoying. going with 1/2 fills and seperate 1/4 (flow controlled) fills for under the radar ups.

i was refering to necessary height of the frame (for body dropped trux) to untuk 22's enough to show the lip of the rim and part of the tire for turning.. forgot to check that b4 i pulled everything. will test it once i get my frame table built and current frame in place and reset cab etc..

[fabitup]

Quick update. Just to clarify things my shop and Otto's performance fabrication share shop space. All the frame work and fender trimming to this point has been done by Jay at Otto's. Just thought I would clarify things. He has been building the frame, I am doing the body mods, body work and paint.

I have some pictures from UNITE 08 but need to upload them. I will do that tonight.

Josh

[poopskidz]

looking good cant wait to see some more pics. hurry and post em up

[chevysnbuicks]

Nice work man. subscribed.

[ikon]

I think He's calling my name.......

Ikon.. i modeled my frame off of some early pics of josh's build, look in the first page on this thread.. i really liked the design and rigidity it would create. post 27 to be exact

btw josh looking great.. 24's on a bodied daily seems very tough. im still trying to figure out a ride height with 22's.. thinking frame level, 5-6" off the ground. would like to get the ride height so wheels can turn w/o airing up.

its not you

[Blaze5509]

its not you

What, are we playing "I Spy"

If the person who thinks their frame is the greatest and people are out to steal his/her copyrighted frame , please stand up??:nopity:

anyone??

[fabitup]

Got to love the internet drama.

Here are some more pics. First ride down the interstate since the frame build!!!

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/Unite%2008/UNITE08040.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/Unite%2008/UNITE08041.jpg


First people to setup at UNITE 08
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/Unite%2008/UNITE08049.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/Unite%2008/UNITE08054.jpg

Waiting on some cash to come in before I can take the build to the next step. I need a bunch of parts.

Next step of build is Motor install, plumb frame for brakes, air, gas, and relocate the battery to the back, and install the fuel cell.

Josh

[shave05]

love the truck man.
i fell in love with my bagged obs and now im selling my bagged 05 and after the rcsb 91 is doen im gonna do a ext cab one lol

[ikon]

Nobody is starting drama...i said it looked familiar and left it at that. If someone was starting drama it would have happened way before now. lol

[slammed97]

why the hostility? no one likes that.

[ikon]

why the hostility? no one likes that.

not my fault i said 1 thing and everyone gets butthurt like usual

[Blaze5509]

not my fault i said 1 thing and everyone gets butthurt like usual

:whatever:
I don't even see where anyone got "butthurt" in this thread.

I could care less but the way you are saying "I know who it is but you guys gotta guess" is like fifth grade schit...get over yourselves.

[Kruznlow69]

looking good josh, let me know if you need some LS1 brackets, i got mine for sale..

[fabitup]

Brackets? what kind of brackets? What engine mounts did you use. Can you post some the part numbers?

Josh

[Inverter]

Nice Josh,
Bet it was a good feeln shown off the skilld labor.
I would have photoshopped the Ford out of the picture,,:biggrin: J/K.

[Kruznlow69]

hey josh, mine were adapter plates to use obs stock 350 frame mounts. i got them off ebay, bolted them up but am now goin a full front to back custom frame. heres a link..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS1-LS6-CONVERSION-MOTOR-MOUNTS-ADAPTER-PLATES_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50454QQihZ013QQitemZ230257004090QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture112.jpg

[ikon]

:whatever:
I don't even see where anyone got "butthurt" in this thread.

I could care less but the way you are saying "I know who it is but you guys gotta guess" is like fifth grade schit...get over yourselves.

i dont recall saying that we are playing Guess who?? I didnt expect anyone to guess anything. Youre looking into this way to much. Maybe you should take a break a rest your brain.

[crewcabondubs]

here is what I was talking about earlier this week. We cut the factory spring cup out completely and welding in the upper bag cup. This made for a really cool looking upper bag mount up front. Its probably been done before and you guys are going to be like...oh...thats it....but I have never seen it done and thought it looks bad ass.

here are the pics,

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/032508001.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/032508002.jpg

Josh
this is the first time i saw this thread!
amazing work btw!
i did the same setup on the front of my crewcab im building. lol
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/eksnoshow/my%20truck/truck00001.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/eksnoshow/my%20truck/primedframe00003.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/eksnoshow/my%20truck/primedframe00000.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/eksnoshow/my%20truck/primedframe00002.jpg
here is what it will one day look like!
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/eksnoshow/my%20truck/fire_web.jpg
sorry for jacking your thread

[shave05]

whats the deal on the updates round here:aniteef:

[Griff4x4]

holy sh*t... im not much for lowered trucks, but thats gonna be b*tchn when its done... this is the newb part of me talking, but how do you plan on driving it again?

[Beyond Static©]

this is the newb part of me talking, but how do you plan on driving it again?

I'd assume with a steering wheel:dunno:


naa, air suspension. Hit a switch, raise the truck up, hit another switch, and set it on the ground

[Griff4x4]

ah.. im used to havin the truck up off the ground enough that instead of wonderin if i can steer it, its "how do i get in it?"

[crewcabondubs]

haha! thanks for clearing that up kyle.
if your going to Scrapin the Coast it will be there near the KIK and Pandemonium booths

[fabitup]

wow I thought this was my thread ;)

sorry for the lack of updates. Had a shake up at my shop which forced me to take it home and store in the garage for a bit. I ordered all the motor mount parts needed just waiting on them to arrive. Once here I will have pics of the motor install which will also include the tranny cross member fab, carrier bearing cross member fab, and custom air tank installation.

Josh

[silverado82]

Looks Great

[fabitup]

Thanks....Oh and by the way. If any one has any 04 style front end parts up for sale please let me know. Once the motor is in and the air, gas, and brakes are plummed I will be wanting to do the front end swap. Please let me know. They don't have to be perfect. Mainly just parts to mock up with.

Josh

[fabitup]

quick update. I received my rendering from graphic disorder in the mail. Here it is.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/joshchevysmall-1.jpg

The truck has been sitting in my garage since UNITE waiting for all my parts to get here. I will have a better update for you when the parts arrive.

Josh

[slammed97]

man thats gonna look badass when its done!

[ryanthorsen]

sick ass rendering and truck cant wait to see it done.

[tahoen]

wow I thought this was my thread ;)



:word:



Some people need to shut their mouths and say outta this thread!




BTW, Looking sweet! And that rendering is badazz!:rocking:

[fabitup]

I should have a nice pic update this coming week or so with new pics of the fully finished frame (shocks mounted, some mods made to existing frame, air tanks mounted, cross members for tranny and the carrier bearing done). I hope to have them by the end of next week or the following so stay tuned.

Josh

[F4MOU$]

Its gonna look killer! cant wait to see it done man!

[Rafaels6]

i think i just messed myself warm towel anyone?

[fabitup]

More updates coming next week. Truck is actually going to get worked on this weekend.

Josh

[fabitup]

Ok guys I need some feed back. For those of you out there that have a really good understanding of four links and how they work. I have been getting some feedback on my rear setup that it is not angled right. I have been told by multiple people that there are a few issues with it....

first being that with the bags mounted so close together it will have a really bad body roll?

Secondly that with the angle of the four link bars it is going to have no anti squat when I accelerate from a stop light.

I am going to take some better pics but here is what I have right now...

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/022808034.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/022808032.jpg


I need some feed back. I do not want this truck to drive strange or uncomfortable. Please give me your .02 cents.

Josh

[fabitup]

oh and if this helps...at ride height the outer bars (straight ones) are angled slightly up in the front.

[ikon]

It will definitely have some crazy body roll at least mine did...

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/secsi_ikon/DSC01614.jpg

[Kruznlow69]

i agree on the body roll. that was my major reasoning on doin a canti again. every which way i tried to keep the bags inboard the rails i kept seeing how close they were and what that would do.

as for the anti-squat i cant see the perfect angles to tell but your front mounts are pretty close (verticaly) and your axle mounts are spaced quite a ways away which would really shorten up the instant center (I believe?) for having an ex cab thats pretty long i would imagine you would want the bars more parallel.

on my old setup i built i ran a equal parallel 4 link, parallel to the ground at ride height, and canti. sway bar up front, all new polys in the arms and it cornered like it was on rails, then took the sway bar out and hit "positive" sides in a corner and i could push even harder but tires were squealing...!


i'd like to see a side shot of your back half at ride height.

[fabitup]

k I will get a pic probably tomorrow.

[fabitup]

Ok kind of a quick update. I will have some pics tomorrow. I found a four link calculator online and put in all the measurements from the existing setup and found out that as it sits it has -10% anti-squat. I believe the typical setup should have around 80% anti-squat. So I am about 90% off. so we went ahead and cut off the four link and upper bag mounts and decided to redo them.

As much as I hate to cut off the existing work (as it was well done) I want the truck to drive nicely so it had to happen.


We should be moving pretty quickly on this project in the next month as Slamfest is rapidly approaching and Most of the <ST> family here in Florida has not seen the truck in person yet I want it alot further along for the show. so keep your eyes peeled here for more updates.


I will have some pics for you tomorrow.

Josh

[slammed97]

where did u find the 4 link calculator at?

[fabitup]

http://mysite.verizon.net/triaged/4linkcalcv15html/index.html

on the site there is an html version or a link to down load the excel version. I would use the excel.

Josh

[fabitup]

here are some pics finally. I should have some more this week.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/fourlink.jpg
this is a picture of the fourlink calc. Showing the new angles of the four link and an 87% anti-squat.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/new.jpg
Pic of the lines run to find out where the new mounts should be.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/newmountlocations.jpg
Better angle to show how different the mounting points on the frame should be. We are going to make a crossmember for the top mounts and raise up the lower mounts a bit.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/prep.jpg
Just a pic of the frame all lined out.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/hellfire_studios/98%20Chevy%20Pickup/cut.jpg
Four link cut out and bag cage gone :(

[Kruznlow69]

Reverse progress... man it sucks and i hear you bigtime! one step forward, 10 steps back, 2 steps forward, 20 steps back.. glad to see your re-setting up the 4 link and lift. keep the progress coming..

btw, my front frame rails are butchered beyond use with the clearancing for the new a/c unit....

[shave05]

youll be happy you made the change the first time you drive it:rocking:

[fabitup]

Never mind. I have all three issues worked out....

[sethstock floor]

hey i also did a 4 inch body drop on my 89 chevy i wus wonderin wut u did for the steering cuz my steering column gos straight to the frame almost to the a arm

[fabitup]

I actually only did a 2.5 inch drop. Ended up having a frame 3/4 built and didn't need to go as far as I thought.

Josh

[♠ FeliX ♠]

awesome loking

[fabitup]

Thanks should have some more pics this week towards the weekend. Waiting for this tropical storm to find out if it is going to hit us here in tampa or not.

Josh

[LayDBurban]

Hey josh! i love this thread... man congrats on all the good work bro, i subscribed to your thread,cant wait to hang out at slamfest bro... later

jean

[fabitup]

Thanks Jean....its coming along....hope to have some new pics up this weekend. alot has changed in the last week. Frame was cut down and rewelded back together as the first builder had the wheel base 2.5 inches to far back. The drive shaft will not go back in. so we handled that. and the four link is going back together....the heat is on to get it to slamfest....

Josh

[LayDBurban]

Thanks Jean....its coming along....hope to have some new pics up this weekend. alot has changed in the last week. Frame was cut down and rewelded back together as the first builder had the wheel base 2.5 inches to far back. The drive shaft will not go back in. so we handled that. and the four link is going back together....the heat is on to get it to slamfest....

Josh


nice brotha, are u still going to scrapin? or u gonna skip it to work on your build? an extra week helps alot... okay brotha..bye

[Inverter]

Frame was cut down and rewelded back together as the first builder had the wheel base 2.5 inches to far back.

Josh
What you mean the 1st builder? I thought you were the builder...

[zach45]

Reverse progress... man it sucks and i hear you bigtime! one step forward, 10 steps back, 2 steps forward, 20 steps back.. glad to see your re-setting up the 4 link and lift. keep the progress coming..

btw, my front frame rails are butchered beyond use with the clearancing for the new a/c unit....
werent u using a crew cab?
i havent been reading ur topics... just looking at pics...

but ur work is :10:

[InestChevys2]

fabit up, how far are the doors from the ground when laid out? Also howmuch rocker was crushed. Later

[Sweet 85 C10]

JOSH wassup Man! Matt.L from Orlando! Hey man nice truck definately proud to have you rollin on our side of the tracks! Man people are going to freak out when its done. Thanks for the link! That rear setup looks sweet! Keep up the hardwork!

[1989silverado]

Looks good

[fabitup]

I had a buddy of mine build the frame as I prefer to do mainly bodywork and paint. We were building it in my shop but now its at another buddys shop being redone....

There were a number of problems with the original work.

1 the fourlink was not properly setup. the way it was setup the anti squat was way off...which is not a huge deal but I do not want it to swat every time i leave a stop light.

2 the upper bag mounts were really close together and that means that it would have some body roll which I didn't like the idea of...

3 and the most recent one...the wheel base was set at 143.5 inches....and the four link was built without the drive shaft in the frame. when we went to install the drive shaft it was 2 inches to long. so now we had to shorten the frame to the right wheel base of 141.5 inches.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/TheFabLab/Joshs%20Truck/DSCI0501.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/TheFabLab/Joshs%20Truck/DSCI0508.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/TheFabLab/Joshs%20Truck/DSCI0511.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/TheFabLab/Joshs%20Truck/DSCI0510.jpg

this is where we are at as of this weekend. I am waiting on the new four link bungs so I can shorten the four link bars and get the four link back together....trying to make it to slamfest but it is getting extremely close and is going to be a long rest of the month to get it there...

Josh

[Kruznlow69]

werent u using a crew cab?
i havent been reading ur topics... just looking at pics...

but ur work is :10:


yeah check out my build, been very slow with everything sooo busy lately and the shop re-model. hope to back to things again in a couple weeks.




Hope things are working out better josh, pm me if you still want those front horns. finally cleaned out my side of the shop and can cut those off if you need. still has the 2 bars welded to keep them in factory spacing.

[fabitup]

PM sent.

To the person asking about where the doors lay. the cab sits about 1/2 inch lower than the frame. I was originally going to cut the rockers down and lay door but I decided not to instead I am going to weld four drag block mounts at the four corners of the cab level with the cab bottom so that I do not damage the rockers when it is laid out. and I can add blocks when I want to go draggin. I had it laid out with out these in place at UNITE but the truck had no motor in it so there was not a terrible amount of weight on the rockers but now there will be....

Josh

[phillipsjt27]

Badass build man, i just found this.

[shave05]

since you redoing the frame four link mounts why do you need to shorten the bars. just move the mounts two inches forward from where they orig where. and put them at the right spot for instant center and antisqut

[fabitup]

they end up in a wierd spot. I am going to have to make a crossmember that is almost a foot higher than the original mounts and if we do not cut them down it will not line up right. they meet right in the middle of the frame transitions from the wide part to the narrowed part. so it has to be done to get them to mount the way I want to mount them.

Josh

[scott99r6]

Just found this... Subscribed!!!