Kruznlow.. Part II, the rebuild.

[Kruznlow69]

well as most of you know, my truck was taken away from me after 2 years of building, one month of interior/system work, three weeks of driving, all by an F'in drunk driver! here's that thread Wreck thread (http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/image-gallery/snapshots-videos/275820-kruznlow-toast.html)
ANYWAY my rebuild is going to consist of all my hopes and dreams i had and do it all up right again!

overall goal is a hot daily driver, Crew cab short bed, 22's, SFBD (possibility), similar bed treatment, denali theme, and some perdy paint.

pics of new parts..
Brand New in a crate GM crew cab with doors
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/cab6658b.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture031-1.jpg
Replacement Bed
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture002-3.jpg
Boyd 22's
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/IMG_1643.jpg
Bed parts (grant Kustoms!)
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture032-1.jpg
rear door parts and caddy buckets
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture011-2.jpg
new rear end c-2500 6 lug
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture026.jpg
ART arms
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture025-2.jpg
easy street EDC
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/edc.jpg


I'll be slowly starting work at our shop.
buddys side and his astro project,(master mechanik) well built, blown 509 in it and beautiful metal work, full custom frame, 9", polished everything for motor, suicide side door. http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture012-2.jpg
my side http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture015.jpg
new toy, 14cfm at 175psi!! http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture052-2.jpg









LASTLY for sale thread of parts and so on..
http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/classifieds/sale/exterior/283182-parting-kruznlow-cab-oe-escy-fenders-arms-etc.html

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/classifieds/sale/miscellaneous/283177-220v-air-compressor-60gal-10cfm-quiet.html

[eviltwin]

glad to see you are building another dream truck

[Koots]

Glad to see a rebuild thread starting! That will take alot of work but sounds like fun anyway. I just hope you get some reimbursment from that drunk freak and make things a little more easier for you money wise.

[DRAGGIN95]

Glad to see your new rebuild thread, and once again good luck. Take it easy

[meneldur]

sick. the seats didnt come with the cab right?

[Koots]

I just noticed the Girlie poster on your side, is she naked? or wearing one of those string bikinis?

[Ward83]

Keep us posted on the crew cab short bed progress, I've been wondering about doing that for a while now. I was thinking it would take a ext-cab longbed frame to do it though, will the back of the cab clear the rear wheels?

[phatchevy06]

You had one of my most favorite trucks on the site…and it’s a damn shame what happened. Glad you weren’t in it though and I’ll damn sure be looking forward to the rebuild. Good luck bro :wink:

[lorado]

damn!:eek: whats the shipping run on a whole crew cab

[badkelly]

don't forget to post design ideas drawn up, so we don't have to wait a year to see the end result!

[91HeavyChevy]

good luck dude cant wait to see it come together

[jstnz28]

I love the rims. Good luck cant wait to see the progress

[bignick31985]

Good to see even more awesome things will come from this man. Gonna be sick I'm sure!

[Kruznlow69]

wowzers there are a lot of night owl's!!! thanks for the comments and support!
*I got the seats from someone up by the twin cities,
*I found the cab in wisconsin and they have a couple more so shipping was my gas and a day loading/unloading. they quoted a guy in cali 2000!
*yes i have a cpl posters in the shop, all strings:dunno:
*frames are different, gotta stretch under the cab.
*might have a rendering or photoshop done for ideas

[thekl0wn]

I'm getting all tingly inside just thinking about it! :crazy:

[stepsidebowtie]

*subscribed*

I defintely want to stay up to date on this. I love everything you got planned man. Gonna be killer for sure!!

[hardluck]

Nice. Looks like Christmas showed up at your place. Good to see another new build-up! Good luck man!

[92 sierra slx]

glad to see you started the build thread

subscribed

[Kruznlow69]

well Heather and I are taking advantage of labor day weekend and not doin any work this weekend. Goin up north campin and coming back sun, but then its on come mon! She has to werk... :(

[layindoor84]

Damn dude, how much was the the cab? I had one before and got rid of it like a dumb ass.
http://b5.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01105/56/50/1105450565

[layindoor84]

Here it is....
http://b5.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01105/56/50/1105450565_m.jpg

[ChevyBoy_93]

good luck on the rebuild cant wait to see the finished product.....:rocking:

[tahoen]

:rocking:

[92 sierra slx]

so if its on mon i assume we can expect update and some pics as of monday night or tuesday cause as everyone knows :nopics:

[dapolice1]

Man I almost bought one of the cabs from that guy. He has had them on bay for a long time.

Looks like your going much the same route I am. Almost decided on those rims, but going with the BAD Maulers.

Lots of pics to give me inspiration. Hopefully I will have frame finished soon.

[donnoe]

Its going to look awsome. Im going through the same thing with my truck. Good luck!

[sLOWrado01]

wow sorry to hear bout all the troubles, good luck on the build up cant wait to see how it turns out!

[TINY'S97]

have you considered a stepside bed? seen both obs and nbs cc with 'em look damn good imo.

[92 sierra slx]

so is everyone jumping on the cc bandwagon now if so itll be worn out quick no offense

[indiglo5997]

astro project,full custom frame

Are Astro vans considered Uni-body vehicle's?

[donnoe]

I didn't mean I was building a cc. I was talking about my ride getting messed up and starting over!

[ikon]

Glad to see this thing gettin rebuilt. It was def. badass the 1st time around and its gonna be hella impressive the 2nd time around. I always thought a Body Dropped CC Long bed would be badass. But the shortbed will look sexy too. Good luck on the build! cant wait to see progress!

[FordeatinZ71]

Are Astro vans considered Uni-body vehicle's?

no, Astro's are full-frame vehicles.

Kruznlow...so sorry to see what happened to your very beautiful truck! really glad to see you are rebuilding something that will be even better...:rocking:

[92 sierra slx]

cool i was just saying im big fan of cc dualys lyd out the reg axle im warming up to always wanted a cc myself of the 73-87 variety

[Low88]

of you don't mind me asking, what does a new cab like that cost? what are decent search words on ebay to find the damn things? "Chevy Cab" gives like 900 results.

[Marcos]

Damn, what a great set of parts all at once!!!

[BagginA93chev]

looks like you are gathering parts good and fast cant wait to see some progress.

[Kruznlow69]

Here it is....
http://b5.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01105/56/50/1105450565_m.jpg

damn i loved that truck. my cab was about $1500 and worth it!

Man I almost bought one of the cabs from that guy. He has had them on bay for a long time.

Looks like your going much the same route I am. Almost decided on those rims, but going with the BAD Maulers.

Lots of pics to give me inspiration. Hopefully I will have frame finished soon. yeah they're kinda different outfit but nice, tons of NOS parts

have you considered a stepside bed? seen both obs and nbs cc with 'em look damn good imo. did but i want the fleetside. system and fits me better.

so is everyone jumping on the cc bandwagon now if so itll be worn out quick no offense umm not that i know of... draggin, dapolice and i are thes one i know of building them, you see them here and there but very rare compared to a reg cab or ex cab???

no, Astro's are full-frame vehicles.
incorrect, they have a front engine cradle and are unibody, he built a full 2x4 box frame incorperating the cradle.


and to others thanks for the comments and i'll be doin as much as i can when i can. i dont have the free time i had b4 but i have more resources to make things a lot faster this time.

[96thebossgrnchv]

sweet!

[FordeatinZ71]

hmm, i was always told/under the impression that they were full-frame...oh well, learn something new every day!

[eviltwin]

incorrect, they have a front engine cradle and are unibody, he built a full 2x4 box frame incorperating the cradle.
indiglo5997 now owes me 20 bucks. thanks

[adversary]

i'll deffinetly be keeping a close eye on this build.

[atvrider85]

i to want to see how it turns out

[REG CAB 07]

I think you should get some tahoe rear doors and modify the cab and bed to have the wheels wells in the rear doors and bed. I made a pic using a newer truck showing what I am talking about. I have never seen one done like this but think it would be a pretty cool truck if done right.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7475/chevytahoecj0.png

[sLOWrado01]

^^^ 2007 Silveralanche

look out

[Sierra]

That sketch reminds me of a Ford Exloder sport trac.

[IH8FORD]

very cool man cant wait to see progress

[phatchevy06]

That sketch reminds me of a Ford Exloder sport trac.
That's what I was going to say...I don't like it at all.

[92 sierra slx]

im with the phat dont like the chevy sporttrac

[DRAGGIN95]

That sketch reminds me of a Ford Exloder sport trac.
I always say to each his own but I def. agree. to much like a sport trac

[crewon24s]

it would look badd ass layed out

[badkelly]

That sketch reminds me of a Ford Exloder sport trac.

thought that at first, then i started thinking gasser with the relocated back axle.

[DroppedAsAChild]

Im locked on to this thread cant wait to see some progress

[92 sierra slx]

so kruzin howd monday work for you any pics of progress
cause no one likes to see :nopics:
in there thread j/k

[Kruznlow69]

wow. so i've missed a few days here.. that sketch looks kewl but not my route im heading, i want 4 full doors and a full short bed for audio gear!.. heres where i have gotten thus far.. might get to gutting and pulling the doors and seats yet later tonight.

tore off my front clip, rad support, and cleared off the firewall. http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture005-4.jpg




didnt get much dont this past weekend due to an unexpected pair of tickets.........











TO LAMBEAU for the season opener for the PACK!!!
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture004-4.jpg
we had a blast, went with my great uncles in a bus/motorhome and jsut plain had a blast. It was Heathers first trip to Lambeau Feild!

now i dont want to see the humping icon either guys! LOL

[LOWGREEN1]

What a cutie!!!.... He must work out...:mushy: :lol:

[Double Dueces]

that sux man! Your whip was bad f*cking ass!!!!! I know you'll get back up your feet and come back with another sick sick whip!!

later man

[Jose99]

Here is a picture of a truck i saw in Mexico it had a welded tailgate, led tails, a skull in the back of the tailgate a very short bed and full doors it was pretty nice. http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/pepescalade/Mail%20Attachments/IMAGE_00319.jpg

[ikon]

that looks hella ghey..

[92 sierra slx]

that mexican **** was gay

[phatchevy06]

Here is a picture of a truck i saw in Mexico it had a welded tailgate, led tails, a skull in the back of the tailgate a very short bed and full doors it was pretty nice. http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/pepescalade/Mail%20Attachments/IMAGE_00319.jpg
:wtf: :gay:

[layindoor84]

Here is a picture of a truck i saw in Mexico it had a welded tailgate, led tails, a skull in the back of the tailgate a very short bed and full doors it was pretty nice. http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/pepescalade/Mail%20Attachments/IMAGE_00319.jpg

That was actually a tahoe at one time then they cut it up. The guy is from texas. Saw it at Heat Wave.

[LOWGREEN1]

That was actually a tahoe at one time then they cut it up. The guy is from texas. Saw it at Heat Wave.That's what I was thinking. A guy in Pleasures use to own it, but I wasn't for sure if that was the same one. I actually like it.

[92 sierra slx]

i thought it looked like a hoe with the roof missing but didnt want to say any thing other then it is gay

[layindoor84]

I like it.

[Kruznlow69]

well thats it for the night.. "look ma... no doors!"
pulled all 3 doors, panels, seats and console. next up is pulling carpet, seat belts, wraping up wiring in cab back to the dash, and starting the dash pull (be a 1st for me)
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture008-2.jpg

[tahoehtp]

that tahoe something I had in mind... but more like avalanche look on rear though...
but that's interesting....

anyways, are you gonna glass the dash since taking it out?
that would be look nice too I guess.

[badkelly]

throw some flash on that engine!

[Kruznlow69]

yeah im thinking the dash will be painted. motor has to stay as it is for now.. no $$ to go though it less i find a sponser for it.. have to go all or leave it alone.. hard to compare to the completly polished, blown, pro built 509 in the astro in the other stall next to me.

[onewingedangel]

Can't wait to see what you will do with your new project! Good luck with everything!

[tahoehtp]

yeah im thinking the dash will be painted. motor has to stay as it is for now.. no $$ to go though it less i find a sponser for it.. have to go all or leave it alone.. hard to compare to the completly polished, blown, pro built 509 in the astro in the other stall next to me.
I hear that man. without sponsor and budget liimited always slows project down..
I'm lookin for second car now so mine won't be daily no more so I can set it and work on little by little...

[92 sierra slx]

limited budgets "BLOW"

[Pre-Game]

:hump: :hump: hehe i want a crew now!!!!

[00'blackout]

That was actually a tahoe at one time then they cut it up. The guy is from texas. Saw it at Heat Wave.


yeah I remember seeing too...it had nasty stress cracks tho

[slammed97]

lookin good man, keep going!

[IntroWheels]

Seeing all of this custom stuff makes me want to build another truck.

[Kruznlow69]

well my budget is my insurance check.. so i cant complain.. cant expect a 10K chromed out motor for free. the downtime sux but this time it will be way better, just take a lil more time but i have till early spring..

[92 sierra slx]

make any new progress on crew??? or ex??? in tear down???

[SlowBlue93]

That was actually a tahoe at one time then they cut it up. The guy is from texas. Saw it at Heat Wave.


That would look awesome if it was a 2 door Tahoe. 4 door looks crappy.

[LayedV8]

its always easier the second time around.
this things gonna look hard.

[badkelly]

well my budget is my insurance check.. so i cant complain.. cant expect a 10K chromed out motor for free. the downtime sux but this time it will be way better, just take a lil more time but i have till early spring..

nah....i bet you can do it for under $1500.

[Kruznlow69]

make any new progress on crew??? or ex??? in tear down???

did you see my post above? got the ex cab gutted and thats about it.. this is gonna be a lengthy build. nothing today and tommorrow im picking up my new tonneau in rochester. maybe some more progress this weekend i hope!

[Kruznlow69]

nah....i bet you can do it for under $1500.


all depends on how you go about it, dressing it up or building it.. i'm not gonna dress up a motor with 175K on it even though it is clean. i jsut dont think the vortec motors are that nice looking but i'm sure i will come up with something to dress it up a little anyways.. if i do any motor/trans work it will be down the road. plans but there spendy!

[shakey]

all depends on how you go about it, dressing it up or building it.. i'm not gonna dress up a motor with 175K on it even though it is clean. i jsut dont think the vortec motors are that nice looking but i'm sure i will come up with something to dress it up a little anyways.. if i do any motor/trans work it will be down the road. plans but there spendy!


ls? Do it......you wont!!

[phatchevy06]

all depends on how you go about it, dressing it up or building it.. i'm not gonna dress up a motor with 175K on it even though it is clean. i jsut dont think the vortec motors are that nice looking but i'm sure i will come up with something to dress it up a little anyways.. if i do any motor/trans work it will be down the road. plans but there spendy!
If it takes you 10K to dress and build that motor...I'd suggest a straight up swap :read:

[Koots]

I say do a swap, but it's your truck and your money and it will kick ass no matter what. Even with a 4 cylinder, it would be a cooler truck than any lund disaster running the roads nowadays.

[Kruznlow69]

ls? Do it......you wont!!


huh?

I say do a swap, but it's your truck and your money and it will kick ass no matter what. Even with a 4 cylinder, it would be a cooler truck than any lund disaster running the roads nowadays.

i'd love to but i jsut dont have the budget for it.. i have a vortec 350 that runs good now (as i knock on wood) and suits me fine. i dont like to drive fast, so show would be my reasoning. a whipple charged stout rebuild would be my choice. would be lots of fun though! i jsut cant afford to do the motor now.. that will be a next around project.. the rear end and all will be ready for it though!


well all i did today was go to rochester to pick up my new tonneau cover. I finally got a snugtop snuglid tonneau, WOOHOOO which will now complete my ordering/buying/locating parts for a good while. this weekend should prove some progress!!!!

[phatchevy06]

huh?



i'd love to but i jsut dont have the budget for it.. i have a vortec 350 that runs good now (as i knock on wood) and suits me fine. i dont like to drive fast, so show would be my reasoning. a whipple charged stout rebuild would be my choice. would be lots of fun though! i jsut cant afford to do the motor now.. that will be a next around project.. the rear end and all will be ready for it though!


well all i did today was go to rochester to pick up my new tonneau cover. I finally got a snugtop snuglid tonneau, WOOHOOO which will now complete my ordering/buying/locating parts for a good while. this weekend should prove some progress!!!!
Interested in seeing the tonneau :wink:

[91HeavyChevy]

im interested in this whole project. cant wait to see it get rollin

[92 sierra slx]

good luck and kick some ass on it this weekend

[Izzy]

TO LAMBEAU for the season opener for the PACK!!!
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture004-4.jpg
we had a blast, went with my great uncles in a bus/motorhome and jsut plain had a blast. It was Heathers first trip to Lambeau Feild!

now i dont want to see the humping icon either guys! LOL
Jess would be jealous, she's a huge Brett Favre fan. :whatever:

We're going to the Pack/Cowgirls game in November.

[Izzy]

That's what I was thinking. A guy in Pleasures use to own it, but I wasn't for sure if that was the same one. I actually like it.
:word: Saw it at TIAO 01/02, hadn't seen it since.

[DroppedAsAChild]

Here is a picture of a truck i saw in Mexico it had a welded tailgate, led tails, a skull in the back of the tailgate a very short bed and full doors it was pretty nice. http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/pepescalade/Mail%20Attachments/IMAGE_00319.jpg


I like this one better i saw it posted on here awhile back

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/DroppedAsAChild20/killerfullsize.jpg

[Pre-Game]

still wierd lookin to me...

[92 sierra slx]

im with pre game doesnt look right or seem right to cut up a hoe to do that buy a cc shortie if thats what you want

[phatchevy06]

I like this one better i saw it posted on here awhile back

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/DroppedAsAChild20/killerfullsize.jpg
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[badkelly]

I like this one better i saw it posted on here awhile back

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/DroppedAsAChild20/killerfullsize.jpg


see....get a straight front axle and you'd have yourself a very original gasser nobody's ever thought of! :rocking:

[Pre-Game]

i would gas in that trucks general direction...

[92 sierra slx]

:lol: :lol: :lol: i would just :fire: that truck o i mean hoe :rocket: but isnt this a little :offtopic: i mean we kinda :jacked: kruzinlows thread

[Kruznlow69]

:lol: :lol: :lol: i would just :fire: that truck o i mean hoe :rocket: but isnt this a little :offtopic: i mean we kinda :jacked: kruzinlows thread


:word: :nono: :nono:

the short hoe/avalance/custom is an idea but definatly not the route im goin. anyways no news for tonight.. took a night off of truck stuff.. will be hitting all weekend..

[Kruznlow69]

Jess would be jealous, she's a huge Brett Favre fan. :whatever:

We're going to the Pack/Cowgirls game in November.

yeah i rem that now.. he really didnt do too much for the win though.. ohh well..

[cr125]

i dont think that blue truck could be a tahoe cause the doors it looks like a suburban

[myfirstGMC]

Those trucks look like the rear top part of the tahoe or suburban were cut off and truck rear window panels and bed caps were put on. doesnt look that hard for someone experienced to do.

[eviltwin]

Those trucks look like the rear top part of the tahoe or suburban were cut off and truck rear window panels and bed caps were put on. doesnt look that hard for someone experienced to do.
i agree 100%

[badkelly]

Quote:
Originally Posted by myfirstGMC
Those trucks look like the rear top part of the tahoe or suburban were cut off and truck rear window panels and bed caps were put on. doesnt look that hard for someone experienced to do.

i agree 100%

i agree 87%

[tahoehtp]

i dont think that blue truck could be a tahoe cause the doors it looks like a suburban
yeah from way rear door look, that's more like burb to me too...
and little better lookin then tahoe. but yeah it takes time to get used to how it looks.. and different.

but

anymore progress pics?

[Kruznlow69]

nuttin yet. sold my fenders,grill, and headlights so i have to get ordering parts again.

i have to help a buddy hang some doors on a car he's painting for me and a friend (roch car audio shop guy) then i'm hopeing to get some things done at the shop.. need to do a lil cleanup at the shop first though!

[Kruznlow69]

got a couple things done this weekend...
my dash and interior..
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture013.jpg
boyds mounted to rear end, sits 3" narower overall from old rear end, perfect for the SFBD!!!!!
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture016-1.jpg
cab jack up
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture012-3.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture011-3.jpg
cab gone!!!
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture019-3.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture020-1.jpg
frame gutted, brakes lines, fuel lines, tank, abs and master, and all exhaust.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture035.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture034.jpg

[Kruznlow69]

next up is to start planning out my frame. i'm thinking either a full new frame from the firewall back or keeping up to the 3rd body mount right b4 it kicks back up. i need to add some length between the 2nd and 3rd mounts for the crew cab. i want to keep as much bed space as possible so the bed will get stockfloored also. i'm goin to use 2x4 .25 wall vs 3/16 cause of how long this frame is goin to end up being and the overall added weight from the 1/16th (100 lbs or so) wont kill me. i want this to be as rigid as possible. im also planning on a tri 4 link and using a 2dr tahoe gas tank in the rear. tons of ideas flowing right now..

[92 sierra slx]

damn kick some ass this weekend??? looking good now the best part cutting stuff up

[92 sierra slx]

damn kick some ass this weekend??? looking good now the best part cutting stuff up

[Kruznlow69]

damn kick some ass this weekend??? looking good now the best part cutting stuff up

Yeas... yeas i did!

dont know if my above post was messed but tried re-updateing progress pics above!

[mveale05]

Sorry if I missed it but I didn't read the whole thread.

Are you going with the same paint scheme as before? It'll be hard to top that last paint scheme if you're trying something different. That was like my most favorite paint job I've seen. That sh*t was f'ing beautiful bro.

Good luck with it whatever way you go, keep us updated.

[Kruznlow69]

Paint.. hmm. i honestly dont know yet. scared to start thinking about it! lol

well i will be jiging up the frame here soon. lookig for any other advice b4 i start from anyone thats done this. My floor isnt too great and the drivetrain is staying in. i plan on doin a backhalf from where the frame kicks up jsut in front of the 3rd cab mount and not from firewall back. i need 2 lengthen the frame between the 2nd and 3rd mounts for the CC swap also while SFBD'n it.

process i think i will do.
#1 level cab mounts, front to back and side to side
#2 check level across front rad support mounts
#3 drill 1/2" holes in floor (its ok to drill)along frame for steel dowls and weld to frame to keep it stationary.
#4 drill dowls (plumb) in center of mounts for later placement of new mounts.

and start building?

[Kruznlow69]

also finally got vids of driving low..
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/th_Jun08_0001.jpg (http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/?action=view&current=Jun08_0001.flv)
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/th_Jun08_0005.jpg (http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/?action=view&current=Jun08_0005.flv)

[samson7x]

man that bar is nice....throws hella sparks

[red02chevy]

It's coming along man. I really like those wheels.

[Kruznlow69]

lil more progress 2night. frame is completely gutted now. not one bolt or bracket left in it except the motor mounts, waiting for one of the two engines stands in the shop to be free. pulled the tranny, engine wire harness, drivetrain and rear suspension. got the frame jacked up to a good workable height and started leveling.

i have it ready to jig to the floor, bottoms of frame rails under cab are level front to back. radiator mounts are level across as well as the body mounts across. even the rear ended up leveing out so my frame must be in good shape yet.
hope to get it secured to the floor soon so i can get final measurements b4 shes chopped at the firewall.

it would probably be too much work but i even thought of building completely new front to back.. wouldnt be too hard to add a jig for control arm mounts, motor mounts, and steering box/idler arm mounts.... anyone have any experience???

pics..
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture038-1.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture040-1.jpg

[westcoast]

damm I wish I had your skill I would be cutting up my denali now! :rocking:

[92 sierra slx]

now is where your headaches begin measure cut weld oh yeah but it can be fun too

[Kruznlow69]

lil more progress. motor is pulled, frame is jigged up and i've been taking measurements for an hour and im beat, long day... i got the frame level on the bottom of the frame rails under the cab, and across each pair of radiator and cab mounts.all turned out good.
I made plugs with a hole saw for dead centers in my body/cab mounts. I have all my measurements from; front to rear, and side to side with all mounts and bed mounts and measured for square and all those measurements front to back, (8 total mounts each side) everything is square and ready to add some diagonals from new floor to frame across my angle iron up front to keep from moving (floor pads are bolted with Hitli's into the concrete). other #'s i need to take yet are plumb elevations from existing concrete floor to mounts, check levelness(degree of angles if any) of all mounts and i should be good to start cutting!!!!
:hack: :fire: :fire: :hack:

need to order some body mounts asap and go pick up a little bit of steel.


for motor i am looking into a rebuild along with the trans again. i would like to do a 383 but i need to see whats feasable for me right now. I'm planning a full new dual exhaust which is gonna be a spendy parts list with new cats, O2 sensors, mufflers, and headers. Machine work i have a hookup, assembly is covered, so its really just parts and that can get to 2K easy... which is too much for me. who knows...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture043.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture044-2.jpg

[slammed97]

dude im super jealous! i wish i didnt go to college during the week 2.5 hrs from home! id start right now on my truck!!

[Kruznlow69]

well frame is braced, and the plasma cutter said "Judo Chop... AHHHHH!!!!)

gonna get some things cleaned up tommorrow and maybe set the new rails in and get things started.. picked up my steel today, went with 2x4 3/16" wall. 24' stick was $100!!! have enough to get rails started and start designing my rear suspension.

i'm plannin a tri 4-link with bags on the lower bars. might get a start on my body mounts too.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture045.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture049.jpg

[Koots]

Looks like things are coming along nicely :10: I can't wait until it is "cruisin low" again (i'm lame, i know).

[99gixxer]

24' of 2x4 3/16 for $100!? I paid $40 for 6' the other day.

progress looks good. we have a 98 1 ton crewcab at the shop. the beds beat up & diesel motor went out but the cabs in excellent shape, you really got me thinkin man.

[Kruznlow69]

well spent today figuring out my drivetrain and meeting with builders who all voluntered some time and help so i can make this happen. engine is goin to be a 383 built by kent from the engine store locally, trans is getting built by jeff from my regular trans shop (dons) to handle the 400HP/TQ motor being built. rear end i have but is being setup by dca racing and supplying a locker. exhaust will use hooker ceramic long tube headers, high flow cats, i think flowmaster super 44's all with 2 1/2" tube. overall drivetrain will be very stout and fun!!!

[99gixxer]

:thumbup: sounds like its gonna be one badass ride.... not like it wasn't badass before, lol

[project 92]

Sounds like youll be chasin down a couple of stangs!!!haha AWSOME!!!

[e10pvmnt]

sounds like you'll be passen everything on the steet except a gas station! Will be badass again. Looks like some quick progress. I haven't even got my beater tagged yet. I need to so i can start the bodydrop buildup thread on my truck! Good luck bro!

[92 sierra slx]

sounds like things are falling in place and going great
a happy ending or revival from a ahitty situation i like it!!!

[Kruznlow69]

well im hopeing i can pass up a couple gas stations, i'd hate to go from 19mpg to 10 just to get another 100HP but who knows. no progress this weekend, my buddy that has the shop with me got married yest so no time to werk. got some more parts sold so more boxing to do. i really need to get my old cab moved outta the way to get my new cab over.

[project 92]

I got a big block in my 92, 470 hp at the wheels before spray!! Not the greatest on fuel by far, but my saying is "its not about mileage, its about smileage"

[Kruznlow69]

yeah i hear ya but i do drive her a lot and need to be able to afford to drive it around. 10mpg would be hurting, 13-14 i could deal with on the hwy..

anyways next hangup is finding anyone with knowledge of headers and bodydrops combined. can i physically fit long tubes?? talking with 99bluetahoe and he's gonna measure his hooker LT's. who knows..

[slammed97]

fab up ur own headers. i think hooker makes a universal kit that u just cut and weld together in any shape u want

[Kruznlow69]

yeah i saw that too and we did talk about it (chris did that with his van since no-one makes a set for a 509 in an astro! i can go with the shorty's and they'll work but the LT's just look so close to working.

[TOFNLO]

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[slammed97]

yeah i saw that too and we did talk about it (chris did that with his van since no-one makes a set for a 509 in an astro! i can go with the shorty's and they'll work but the LT's just look so close to working.
if u can get them to work i would, thatd be cool to put a long tube header on a b/d truck! well now that i think about it ill be making my set of long tube headers when im done with my b/d. i think im gonna do a set of custom stainless steel ones!

[phatchevy06]

Nice progress buddy.

[LayinLo]

looking real good man... once im done painting my daily itll be time to tackle my truck

keep it up... im deffinetly gonna be following this one

[Beyond Static©]

My truck gets 10mpg, and maybe 200hp at the crank. So quit your crying about bad gas mileage. At least yours will be fast. lol

[phatchevy06]

My truck gets 10mpg, and maybe 200hp at the crank. So quit your crying about bad gas mileage. At least yours will be fast. lol
:lol: :lol:

[Dubyagee]

When a guy has more then two C- clamps out, he's dead serious.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture045.jpg


Nice work.

[shakey]

My truck gets 10mpg, and maybe 200hp at the crank. So quit your crying about bad gas mileage. At least yours will be fast. lol


try driving like an 1" off the ground instead of on it.... :lol:

[Lchauvin88]

Can't wait to see more. I think you'll be super happy with that engine. Good luck.

[Kruznlow69]

thanks for the comments guys..

My truck gets 10mpg, and maybe 200hp at the crank. So quit your crying about bad gas mileage. At least yours will be fast. lol
seriously!??? my trucks must spoil me by running top notch, my daily (92 4x4 blazer 4.3 vortec) gets 20mpg Hwy, and truck got 18-19mpg Hwy. but yeah the power will be worth it!!!

When a guy has more then two C- clamps out, he's dead serious.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture045.jpg
Nice work.
i havn't even gotten to use one yet. got them in case i kept the stock frame past the 2nd body mount!! lol

try driving like an 1" off the ground instead of on it.... :lol:
whats wrong with draggin? :dunno:



anyways got the shop cleaned up and re-organized ... again! gotta keep on it or it will be a jungle in there in no time! so i got a start on setting my 2x4 rails into the front frame. cut the tops off the old to see where i need to trim the 2x4 to get as far up as possible. i am trying for as much contact as possible to weld up and then plug weld, then gusset. it will be overkill but thats how i like it!!!
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture055-1.jpg
rear tails braced laterally to keep from tweakin with plasma heat while cutting top off. long grind mark shows final cut and where new top plate will be for a smooth transition
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture054-1.jpg
top view, new rail just set in, will go in lots further!
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture052-3.jpg
frame really kicks up
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture058-3.jpg

[Kruznlow69]

my finished thoughts are this, please don't mind the great ms-paint work!!!
1st pic shows where rail will continue up to in red, green shows if i cut though the inner wall to get to the front side and possibly cut straight through it and plasma the 2x4 off to get more welding surface...???
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture0525.jpg

2nd pic shows where in red would but up to front and if i cut though the front and part of sloping bottom (full 2x4 rail goes though frame)where i could get lots more contact, but more possibly unnecessary work. green dashes are where cut through front wall.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture0585.jpg






thats just an odd idea... thinking best way will be to cut through inner wall and butt up to the front wall and weld there b4 top plate is on... just trying to keep an open mind for ideas..


ALSO in first pic the width is a factor (frame is 1/2" wider than new rail) so i am planning to cut material from bottom to bring side walls together then re-weld...

[slammed97]

thats a good idea, im gonna steal it if u dont mind :cheer:

[Kruznlow69]

well went on my first thought and got the rails fit into the frame this afternoon. took a lot of test fitting and trimming but ya gotta love a plasma! kinda ended up looking like a semi-arched compound miter cut in the 2x4. fits pretty good and next i have to deal with the 1/8"-3/16" of frame that now sits below the new rail. have an idea for that too.

left rail
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture061-2.jpg
right rail
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture062-1.jpg

[project 92]

Looking good!!!

[DRAGGIN95]

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[slammed97]

looks good!!!

[e10pvmnt]

**** yeah it's looken awesome! Should be sweet looken when you get'er finished up! Can't wait to see some more progress!

[Low88]

looks great.. good idea on the frame horns.

I wish i had my plasma back when I started the stockflooring...I have gotten more done in the past 3 weeks since owning the thing than I have in 6 months.

[slammed97]

plasma cutters are the SH!T

[92 sierra slx]

yes they are seeing theses build threads pisses me off i live in an apartment and cant do anything to my truck right now
looking good though

[Kruznlow69]

well i'll have to get some more pics up, but prob not till tommorrow.. got the rails completely ready for welding in, and my mockup drive train, (bare 305 block, empty 4l60e case for easy lifting!) also setup the rear end where it will sit when layed out for driveline setup.. pics will show how i cut it all in to make it as strong as possible..

today i got up at 5am, drove 3 hrs, and parted out another denali! got full set of seats, console, L+R fenders, rear door glass and guts (for the rear crew doors), grill shell, headlights, a 3rd! escy/denali cluster, another bumper cover, complete steering column.. seats have some wear and small tears on driver side but i now have 3pr of front seats, and 2 pair of rear seats to pic from for my build..
will sell whatever seats i dont use, the console, and one of the clusters.. Nick picked up my stock arms and old gas tank and trans x-members last night. Anyways taking the night to spend with H since she finally has a night off then maybe do some welding quick in the AM to tie the rails in permanently..

[92 sierra slx]

keep me posted on the seat sit i want a pair of fronts

[silverado2nv]

looking good

[Kruznlow69]

got the rails tacked in, removed the clamps, and some of the beads ran. 2night im going to get the tops ready for plating and maybe fire up the welder again. also need to start laying out the body mounts.. i organized the old ones but they got put in a box so i have to figure out which mounts go where.. also start making some body mounts brackets.. thing i have to look at is the middle cab mount is only 1 1/4" off the bottom of the frame (sits lower than the frt and rears)
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture066.jpg

can see the notches in old frame to weld to box tube..
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture065-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture067.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture068-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture072-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture073-1.jpg

[layindoor84]

Nice job man.That thing is gonna be bullet proof when you get done.

[ikon]

Door it o_O

[Kruznlow69]

thanks ronnie.. thats my plan for it anyways..

hey ikon.. no bd to the doors for me.. i was actually thinking of goin 2 1/4" bd so i keep the body off the ground so i dont F any body panels up but i'm just goin the standard 2 1/2"


no pics 2nite but i got the top plates made from cardboard templates i made along with fishplates to brace the inner frame on each side. made a few plug holes in them to weld up too. will make another for the outsides once i cut the old front body mounts off. probably zip her up tues night.. right now i need to find two new rear body mounts, and a RCSB driveshaft soon!. the mount and driveshaft i got at the yard weren't right.. wow that was a lot of plasma cutting!

[RaiN]

I'd really like to go from SCSB to ECSB... You sir are paving a lot of road for me.

[slammed97]

um. im gonna need you to stop ur progress so i can catch up, okay? thanks! :thumbup: haha

[ikon]

hey ikon.. no bd to the doors for me.. i was actually thinking of goin 2 1/4" bd so i keep the body off the ground so i dont F any body panels up but i'm just goin the standard 2 1/2"
Interesting...we ended up doing 3" on myne to get rocker.

edit - nvm i forgot we over b/d it 1/2".

[Kruznlow69]

got the plates (3/16") formed and ready for a night of welding tommorrow to finish up my transition from old to new frame.. aiming for "bulletproof" haha

pics of plates
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture075-1.jpg

top plates
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture076-1.jpg

fish plates
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture077-1.jpg

frame cut for top plates
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture079.jpg

side view of cuts
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture080-1.jpg

rear brace to weld to hold rails
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture081.jpg



hopeing to get it all welded up and done tommorrow night, then next is to start laying out body mounts and x-members. need new rear rubber mounts and driveshaft yet, once i get the middle and rear mounts in place i will lower the front cab mounts, then lower the front frame horns/radiator support and clear for lower radiator hose.

[LayinLo]

lookin good man

[slammed97]

dang man it looks super good!!!

[Low88]

real clean. keep it up

[Nickleahy23]

lookin good..thanks for the studs the other nite lol i got it fixed up in no time...ill hopefully be back down there in a few weeks to pick up some tires.

[Kruznlow69]

thanks guys.. get those arms in yet nick? glad the studs workd out, still can't believe all those ring gear bolts snapped.. looking forward to a night of welding tonight..

[Nickleahy23]

thanks guys.. get those arms in yet nick? glad the studs workd out, still can't believe all those ring gear bolts snapped.. looking forward to a night of welding tonight..

Nah i had enough just gettin those studs in with a vice grip, hammer, lug nut and the truck jack lol...hopefully befor winter hits ill get those arms in along with the xmembers

[BagginA93chev]

progress is looking good, great job so far!

[Bagged 04]

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture081.jpg

Your a genious, you finally found a good use for a prefab sub box. :aniteef:

[dimebagged]

i really like the way your doing this. normally it would be overkill, but not in your case of a crew cab reg bed. great work!

[Kruznlow69]

got top plates welded in, got a late start so i didnt get the fish plates in but ok, frame was a lil warm anyways.

the junction of the new/old frame is strong as hell even with out the fish plates!!!. we found a problem though. one of the guys stood on the end of the rail (12' out from welds) and we found flex in the coil pocket where its cut for bags (as would any fsc truck) when you trim the pocket it has to really weaken it. gonna have to re-inforce it somehow but that wont affect the rails.. jsut one more step on the build list.. can make a vid of the flex if anyones really interested.

pics..

left rail grinded
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture084-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture087.jpg

right rail, just wire wheeled..
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture086.jpg

Left rail with fish plate clamped (sucked big balz forming that piece)
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture088.jpg

bought a new miller auto darkening helmet so i finally have my own now.. been using Chris's (buddy that i have shop with thats a superstar when it comes to auto repair (master ase cert.) and very skilled with all metal working was watching/supervising me) i'm still learning with welding but its awesome to have a good teacher. hopeing to grind the other side tommorrow and get the fish plates stitch welded in.. dont want to heat it up too much with those long beads..

[LOWZ71]

Wow, that looks pretty beefy! Nice work.

[slammed97]

how much flex in the coil spring pockets are we talkin?

[ikon]

ya ya be sure to reinforce the spring pocket for sure...Had a buddys frame literally snap because the power steering pump put to much pressure on them. Would hate to see it happen to u.

[Kruznlow69]

very minimal, but at the end of the frame it multiplys. now granted this is a 200lb guy, at the end of the frame 12' away so that is a HUGE lever. i guess i just dont like seeing any flex anywhere. obviously every OBS chevy with bags has the coil pocket trimed as i do but not many have jigged up the frame like i did to even see it. only thing i can really think of is to put a fish plate on the outer side along the coil pocket, and try to add some sorta bracing inside the pocket.

[Kruznlow69]

ya ya be sure to reinforce the spring pocket for sure...Had a buddys frame literally snap because the power steering pump put to much pressure on them. Would hate to see it happen to u.


wow, a power steering pump? wonder what a nice 383 would do to it??? lol

guess it was kinda expected but also kinda a surprize since no-one really talks about it when trimming the pockets out. goes back to the jumping on one rail, with no x-members, 12' down. probably would've never noticed it in a typical install..

[Kruznlow69]

got the meshing of the rails complete. fish plates are in and grinded down smooth. rails are beefy and ready to start laying out x-members, cab mounts, and rear rails.. kinda wingin it for design on the rails, figured keep the as wide as possible. planning a tri-4link but dont know exactly how i want to run the bars yet, main goal is to stockfloor the bed as much as possible to save space for audio.. need to do some reading on bar location and pros/cons etc..

left mostly welded in
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture090.jpg

right mostly welded in
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture098.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture096.jpg

[krismhynum]

Looking good!Nice work man!

[slammed97]

damn im jealous! it looks good! im stuck since my frame is in the chassis shop.

[bftiedt]

lookin good!

[99gixxer]

this is awesome... excellent work

[e10pvmnt]

Looks damn good. Can't wait to get mine torn apart! Good luck with it!

[Kruznlow69]

anyone have some backhalfing experience?? is it prefered to run all the tri 4 link bars inside the frame or just the V. does it matter if the v runs from one point up from the both sides of the axle? im starting to lay out the rails/mounts, x-members and open for advice.. figured the basics of 4 link setup with keeping the bars parallel to ground at ride height and the longer the better.. want to run 2:1 leverage on lower bars too..

[2inchesTooLow]

anyone have some backhalfing experience?? is it prefered to run all the tri 4 link bars inside the frame or just the V. does it matter if the v runs from one point up from the both sides of the axle? im starting to lay out the rails/mounts, x-members and open for advice.. figured the basics of 4 link setup with keeping the bars parallel to ground at ride height and the longer the better.. want to run 2:1 leverage on lower bars too..
I've seen a number of trucks with all the bars on the inside....but keep in mind..the further you have your suspension mount points bags etc to the outside. the more stable the truck will be...handling better etc....It was explained to me like this...stand with your feet together....and have someone try to push you over...now stand with your feet apart...and have them do it again...much harder right?...now think about how this would effect body roll etc when you're out driving....
Most triangulated 4 links I see running around here have the lower bars mounted off the BOTTOM of the frame...I guess its easier to just weld the mounts on there?

Question, why did you decide on a triangulated as opposed to a parallel and panhard bar? Everyone has their preference, and I'm always curious about it...
I am putting a parallel 4 link and panhard in my truck, partly because I don't want my pinion angle changing so much over its travel.....

By the way AWESOME build!:rocking:

[99gixxer]

I've seen a number of trucks with all the bars on the inside....but keep in mind..the further you have your suspension mount points bags etc to the outside. the more stable the truck will be...handling better etc....It was explained to me like this...stand with your feet together....and have someone try to push you over...now stand with your feet apart...and have them do it again...much harder right?...now think about how this would effect body roll etc when you're out driving....
Most triangulated 4 links I see running around here have the lower bars mounted off the BOTTOM of the frame...I guess its easier to just weld the mounts on there?

Question, why did you decide on a triangulated as opposed to a parallel and panhard bar? Everyone has their preference, and I'm always curious about it...
I am putting a parallel 4 link and panhard in my truck, partly because I don't want my pinion angle changing so much over its travel.....

By the way AWESOME build!:rocking:

He cant put them under the frame unless he brings the whole backhalf frame up high b/c he wants the bags on the bars. Judging from the time hes spending on this build he wouldnt want to go with a panhard, panhards just suck.

I think it would be best to put them inside the frame, that way you can mount the bag centered on the bar. With my bars on the outside the bags are offset to the side & it does sit most of the weight on one side of the bushings, just as others have told me it would do. You cant bring the bar out any further it would hit the wheel. Than again, your building the whole frame so you have freedom of building the backhalf however high, low, wide, or skinny you want.

My vote goes for inside the frame, ive seen a few pics & it looks really good. 2inches does make a good point about the wider spread the bars, more stability.

[Kruznlow69]

yeah i know what you mean by keeping the bars outside the frame for body roll. i guess i just dont know how i want to set this all up yet. i am not 100% on the tri-4link. i really LOVED the ride/lift with my custom 6 link/canti with a watts. it would be minimally invasive into the bed floor too. i just thought switching to a tri-4 link would follow the K.I.S.S. theory.

btw with the tri 4-link it treats the pinion angle the same as a parallel 4-link, jsut deletes the panhard but takes up more space..


damnit.. i'm really contimplating/debating the 6 link again.. man i loved that setup.

honestly it may be my best way to go since it will take up dead space under the bed and keep more room inside the bed..

this is a lot of stuff to plan out and i make things way too complicated!


edit
other factors i have
i need a payload so i have to keep a 2:1 ratio or less, my old setup was 2.5:1 and it was ok, but with a tonneau, 4 optimas, entire system, and 400 lbs of nitro tanks i was hauling 1000+lbs all the time. rear bags matched fronts at 85psi at ride height. new system will be bigger but no more nitrogen tanks!

i am planing a full dual exhaust with it dumping just in front of the bottom of the roll pan.

I am tryin to take a semi load of crap and stuff it into a campbell soup can with a can crushing body drop! Mmm Mmm Good!

[2inchesTooLow]

He cant put them under the frame unless he brings the whole backhalf frame up high b/c he wants the bags on the bars. Judging from the time hes spending on this build he wouldnt want to go with a panhard, panhards just suck.

I think it would be best to put them inside the frame, that way you can mount the bag centered on the bar. With my bars on the outside the bags are offset to the side & it does sit most of the weight on one side of the bushings, just as others have told me it would do. You cant bring the bar out any further it would hit the wheel. Than again, your building the whole frame so you have freedom of building the backhalf however high, low, wide, or skinny you want.

My vote goes for inside the frame, ive seen a few pics & it looks really good. 2inches does make a good point about the wider spread the bars, more stability.

Ok..why do panhards "suck"? I know you get some side to side movement of the axel...what other negative traits are there?

[Low88]

thats about it. And with a properly setup panhard, you are only talking a 1/2" of movement.

As far as triangulated uppers, I have seen the 'V' setup both ways. As long as you keep 40 degrees of triangulation between the V, they will both effectively prevent lateral movement. IIRC, there are differences between /\ and \/, But I am not a chassis engineer, so I don't know. Max on SSM could tell ya.

[Kruznlow69]

a panhard can work great, but i will again have tight tolerances with clearance for the rear wheels.

while pounding my brain with ideas, i am looking at the end result and taking a step back for a min.. i'm really going back to my origional thought with the rebuild that my 6link idea will be best for me. The one drawback i had was with the crazy sides i got b4, doin so took a toll on bushings but superpivots would fix that.. With the sfbd and 22's i really wonder if i will throw "lowrider" sides anymore. i can tub all the wheel wells to clear for sides again. When sitting sideways, the wheel that was tucking the most, the top would really move into the bed area and force a lot wider of a tub than if it were layed out flat. also narrowing my bed volume which i want the most of. Thing i learned b4 was when hitting sides the frame location really didnt matter and the rockers were hitting the ground. i do want to keep the articulation though.
pic of old sides..
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture053.jpg

[92 sierra slx]

done anything to the crew cab pic worthy?

[99gixxer]

Ok..why do panhards "suck"? I know you get some side to side movement of the axel...what other negative traits are there?

if your runnin really big wheels with minimal clearence with the bedside, sometimes that 1/2" of movement means some rubbing. im not bashing on panhards at all... just looking at his abilities it wouldnt be anything for him to fab up something that works a bit better than a panhard, especially on a badass build like this. sorry to give the wrong impression.

i'm really going back to my origional thought with the rebuild that my 6link idea will be best for me.

hey it was awesome, worked great & was proven. sometimes stickin with the old may not be a bad idea.

[2inchesTooLow]

if your runnin really big wheels with minimal clearence with the bedside, sometimes that 1/2" of movement means some rubbing. im not bashing on panhards at all... just looking at his abilities it wouldnt be anything for him to fab up something that works a bit better than a panhard, especially on a badass build like this. sorry to give the wrong impression.



hey it was awesome, worked great & was proven. sometimes stickin with the old may not be a bad idea.
Hey no offence taken man....just wondering...

I am not a big fan of huge rims (gasp:eek: ) so thats not an issue for me.....
I'm just always curious as to people reasons for certain set ups...

[layindoor84]

Here is a pic of my rear setup. It is a wishbone kit from suicide doors. Everything is ounted on the inside of the rails. It is alot easier to set everything up exactly how you want it when starting from scratch.
http://www.streetsourcemag.com/uploads/Ownerprofiles/974door/719200760106PM11721.jpg
http://www.streetsourcemag.com/uploads/Ownerprofiles/974door/719200753345PM9331.jpg

[92 sierra slx]

do you really need a notch that big do you plan on laying out and wheels been a foot off the ground???

[Kruznlow69]

do you really need a notch that big do you plan on laying out and wheels been a foot off the ground???

no news with the crew, still sittin in my garage. i do have a 2nd cab though now. buddy bought one of the crates for jsut the doors.

also in ronnies pics they look busy with steel everywhere but the first looks like max lift, and 2nd looks like max drop on his hoe.. look at the driveshaft. issue i saw was pinion angle is positive 1-3 and not 1-3 degrees negative.

if your runnin really big wheels with minimal clearence with the bedside, sometimes that 1/2" of movement means some rubbing. im not bashing on panhards at all... just looking at his abilities it wouldnt be anything for him to fab up something that works a bit better than a panhard, especially on a badass build like this. sorry to give the wrong impression.



hey it was awesome, worked great & was proven. sometimes stickin with the old may not be a bad idea.

amen.. my setup it critical, my last was just as if not more, my watts gave me 1/16" varience with 14" of travel, i had about 1/16" from bedside to tire on each side when layed out b4, 1/2" would bend body panels and not have worked!!

as far as last setup, that is probably my best option. i went from designing, building, and i hit the road for a year and only issue was bushing wear from crazy sides i set it up for and hit plenty of. super pivots should cure that along with my new doglegs i designed that i never installed. new system will be different but have the same function. built into the frame instead of working around it.

[Kruznlow69]

updated for sale link.. http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/classifieds/sale/interior/291081-99-00-denali-seats-center-console-cluster-visors-flares-misc.html

[Kruznlow69]

not much to update yet, picked up steel for making body mounts today.. and getting another 24' stick of 2x4 fri for rear frame and x-members. for frt and rear ones should be easy. middle ones are lower and only 1 1/8" off the ground from the top of the mount.. may just put it in once the cab is sitting on the frt and rears.

really thinking of goin with a rear frame setup like josh's http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/general-discussion/street/281194-full-frame-build-4-inch-body-drop-98-obs-ecsb.html

wish he'd post some new pics of it, no way to get a hold of him for updates..

[DRAGGIN95]

I like that rear full frame setup, at the point your at, why not go ahead and do the rear to. Take it easy

[Kruznlow69]

I like that rear full frame setup, at the point your at, why not go ahead and do the rear to. Take it easy


thats the plan for the frame.. i just dont know how i want to lay out the rails. just need to get some good time in on it and do a bunch more mock up..

p.s. hopeing to get those visors boxed up tommorrow and hopefully out if i get to the post office b4 they close..

[Kruznlow69]

nuttin much but got body mounts made the other night.. plasma was acting up and kept tripping the breaker.. need to switch it back to 220v but been lazy..
that was a lot of cutting and grinding smooth.. will cut holes once they are mounted.. also need to bevel the edges where they will meet the frame yet or jsut gap them an 1/8"

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture099-1.jpg

[Kruznlow69]

picked up more steel today, another 24' of 3/16 2x4 box, 14' of 2x4 1/8" , some 2" ID seamless tube for my reciever hitch, and misc metal for plating and so on.

i have a new idea for crossmembers for my main rails.. heres a pic below.. it wouldnt interfere with much, would have plenty of room for driveline, strongest way to brace the frame, and can easily run the exhaust through cutouts with 3" ID 1/8" tube welded in. this is what i got the 1/8" 2x4 tube for. my frame is obviously all boxed in though as pic is C and I channel.

http://www.purechoicemotorsports.com/cartimages/page_lg_14.JPG

[layindoor84]

I see the brackets you made for mounts, but how are you gonna attach the body? Are you gonna use the factory rubber mounts?

[Kruznlow69]

yup yup.. i want to get them welded on, and the frame braced and then measure out the exact centers of the holes b4 i cut them out. i plan to use factory rubber bushings, most of mine are still in great shape..

[dapolice1]

Dang you.
Your using all of my ideas...
LOL..
I too am going with the "x" member in some sort of fashion.
Hope to have some major progress soon..

[Kruznlow69]

Dang you.
Your using all of my ideas...
LOL..
I too am going with the "x" member in some sort of fashion.
Hope to have some major progress soon..


whacha mean?? great minds must think alike!!! will keep you posted on the seats, i just dont know which way i will be goin yet on them.

[93chevyecsb]

Sooooo.... progress?


/Taps foot.

I love that truck and sucks that ho killed it.

[Kruznlow69]

funny you ask, went to the shop for a few min tonight to look at it!.. i've made a lil but clearning out my to-do list for everything else. i will get some more time soon to get some pics taken and post up.

[Kruznlow69]

well, been busy. got the bulk of the frame built. now on to rear suspension design. i had the cab, core support, fenders, and old bedside i cut off on it and it looks awesome! thinking of doin a superlift 4 link type setup with a watts. bags on the outer bars, other bars on the inside. and watts behind obviously. thing im debating is how to fit the bags into the picture, need to sit down and do some mocking up. dont want to do a rear canti anymore..


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture106.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture104.jpg

[gooberchevy]

Lookin' great!

[ikon]

sexy man...just sexy

[92 sierra slx]

you need to get some pics of the body mocked on it get some help to get them if needed

[LOWZ71]

That frame is badass!!

[sLOWrado01]

should be low enough!

[BagginA93chev]

that frame is looking awesome man! its making me really want to start on another project,

[Marcos]

Looks awesome, cant wait to see more!

[LayinLo]

great work... that sure didnt take long

keep it up

[Kruznlow69]

thanks guys, well i designed my front 4 link brackets tonight, and im goin to be goin with a rear canti. for my setup i just wont have the room i want to put the bags anywhere else. takin my templates to the steel shop tommorrow so we can cut them out. gotta love a shear press that chomps 1/2" thick steel up to 8' wide!!!

[e10pvmnt]

Can't wait to see more. It's comen along VERY nicely! Should look sweet! Can't wait to start mine now! Good luck on yours man!

[DRAGGIN95]

Looking good, for me its tough looking at mine everyday sitting together and knowing how long it will be before its done. I would def. like to see a pic. of yours setting together. Take it easy

[91HeavyChevy]

nice motor. lol

[slammed97]

killer work!

[jimhrabe]

Any new progress? Looks good so far

[92 sierra slx]

can we see the panels resting on the frame the anticipation is killing me

[Kruznlow69]

only pic i got is on my damn phone. and no i dont have clue why i didnt take a pic with my camera, DOH... damn it looks Fin kewl though!!! :) gonna head over for an hour an maybe get my front 4 link mounts tacked in. wont have a shop night again for a little while. we get into deer hunting and season opens tommorrow. heres my buck from a cpl years ago..

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture018-4.jpg

[92 sierra slx]

that bucks a two fer you got him and his beer
lol

[jays88chevy]

Nice work.

[Kruznlow69]

I got some progress on my 4 link front mounts the other night. only a couple hours but will be working for a little tonight hopefully. i am goin with a rear canti, i studied everything for a night at the shop last week, keeping the K.I.S.S. theory in mind for the frame, it rode damn good b4, not much room for bags inside the rails, more stability, and i am gonna change up some bar ends to pivots to fix the binding/bushing wear i had with sides. wont hit as much sides anymore but that is a weak point with 6 links.


are there pros/cons to super pivots from various places or are they all the same? example, suicide doors, gravity werks, outlaw motorsports, ???

[Tolly]

Looking very nice! It'll be good to see it again out on the road draggin again.

[Kruznlow69]

thanks again for the comments guys. jsut reading up on johnny joints/super pivots and found a good page with lots of details for selection, the video from "john" the creator of the johnny joint, is not so great of speaking but pretty informative, bout 5 min long. i really like the setup with joints on both ends and one being LH thread with jams.. anyways, off to work for a couple hours!

http://www.currieenterprises.com/cestore/johnnyjoints.aspx

[cajundragger]

s10forum has a good read on how to put those joints together, since they arent as easy as snapping in the rubber bushings and knocking down the metal sleeve.

If your doing bag on bar I would keep a rubber end on one end and super pivot on the other. And make sure that the bag i not offset at all on the bar. Make sure its centered or the bar will twist and ruin any kind of bushings.

On my truck I drilled out the bars and sleeved them so the bolts can run through the bar to the bag and keep the bag center on the bar. I got pics if you want to check it out.

[Kruznlow69]

i found the how to article.. http://www.s10forum.com/howto-assemble-a-super-pivot-joint. also dont need a table with a threaded hole, jsut lock a nut down in a vise.. lol...!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

im doin a rear canti so no issues here with bags on bars. most likey using polys up front on the bars and the pivots on the axle sides. the dog legs will also use pivots on the axle side.. i think.. i worry with wear on the polys and the force of the bags that the pivots will allow side/side sway movement on the canti bar.
A thought i have to cure that, is a solid 3" delron bushing at the rear of the canti to keep the canti bar stable and the pivot on the axle tab of the dogleg to allow sway. with my old setup, side demolished the canti poly bushing..

hmmm.... maybe use the pivot on the rear canti bushing instead??? the bag will flex and that was the bushing that took the beating???

[cajundragger]

i found the how to article.. http://www.s10forum.com/howto-assemble-a-super-pivot-joint. also dont need a table with a threaded hole, jsut lock a nut down in a vise.. lol...!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

im doin a rear canti so no issues here with bags on bars. most likey using polys up front on the bars and the pivots on the axle sides. the dog legs will also use pivots on the axle side.. i think.. i worry with wear on the polys and the force of the bags that the pivots will allow side/side sway movement on the canti bar.
A thought i have to cure that, is a solid 3" delron bushing at the rear of the canti to keep the canti bar stable and the pivot on the axle tab of the dogleg to allow sway. with my old setup, side demolished the canti poly bushing..

hmmm.... maybe use the pivot on the rear canti bushing instead??? the bag will flex and that was the bushing that took the beating???
how brutal are you? goddamn

haha, I would do full poly's on the canti and doglegs with a superpivot on the axle part of the dogleg.

[BigBadBowtie572]

:digger:

How's the progress so far? I'm subscribing to see how this one turns out. Looks good so far. Can't wait for it to be finished!

[96thebossgrnchv]

this is the stuff i dream about lol,

[Nickleahy23]

truck was lookin great the other night steve..cant wait to see it roll out of the garage in the spring..and that engine set up you were talking about...damn..i wont spoil it though haha the console is awesome its one of the best upgrades ive done..thanks again..also glad i can fund part of your project with the parts ive bought lol

[92 sierra slx]

any more progress pics???

[Flexia]

Wow you have a lot a good work going into this thing. Love how its coming out and makes me want to start mine even sooner

[gooberchevy]

truck was lookin great the other night steve..cant wait to see it roll out of the garage in the spring..and that engine set up you were talking about...damn..i wont spoil it though haha the console is awesome its one of the best upgrades ive done..thanks again..also glad i can fund part of your project with the parts ive bought lol

Yep, its even more amazing to see that frame in person!

[2loplz]

looks badass man, cant wait to see it finished.............................................................ohh and someone posted a Tahoe with the rear shopped a while back here is a link to it http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/pepescalade/Mail%20Attachments/IMAGE_00319.jpg they said it was in Mexico well that Tahoe was built by a guy here in Oklahoma city that was in Pleasures he sold it and i guess it ended up in Mexico just wanted to let you all know

[slammed97]

looks badass man, cant wait to see it finished.............................................................ohh and someone posted a Tahoe with the rear shopped a while back here is a link to it http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/pepescalade/Mail%20Attachments/IMAGE_00319.jpg they said it was in Mexico well that Tahoe was built by a guy here in Oklahoma city that was in Pleasures he sold it and i guess it ended up in Mexico just wanted to let you all know
i still dont like that thing.:whatever:

[project 92]

I dont either.

[Kruznlow69]

well a little progress. been werking behind closed doors on some things.. We completely re-organized the shop, built some shelving and i can now move all my seats and parts in my garage at the house to the shop so i can park in it. need to build my work bench yet and get a bigger roller cab.

LS1 swap, and trans are in. 383 stroker idea is dead and gone
Cab is in place, and clears driveline with some trimming!
Next to do is make a driveshaft carrier/hanger bearing x-member and then start on the rear of the frame and get it finished up.

pics
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture119.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture122.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture124.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture121.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Kruznlow69/Picture123.jpg

[Nickleahy23]

Lookin good man..Those seats and console are really sweet btw..dont know how i lived without that console lol..Lovin that LS1.Good choice. Ill have to make it down there after break and see what kinda new goodies you have.

[jimhrabe]

Lookin good

[92 sierra slx]

sweet some pics finally now if only you could but a bedside up and mount the wheels we'd all know what its going to look like
but ls1 huh thats sweet