View Full Version : Chilton or Haynes?


Tavenner13
09-03-2007, 07:21 PM
which car care manual do you prefer? are they any different?

bigburb
09-03-2007, 07:42 PM
i use the GM Factory service manuals, 4 books about 400 pages thick. chilton nor haynes are in-depth enough for me.

K1500Tech
09-04-2007, 04:49 AM
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I like the Chilton books better than Haynes.

05Quadrasteer
09-04-2007, 04:54 AM
I have to agree with bigburb, go with the GM service manuals. They are produced by Helms and have so much more material and are not written in general terms to cover numerous vehicles.

Have a nice day.

Bill

1980scottsdale
09-04-2007, 06:34 AM
I have both but the haynes has much clearer pictures. Other than that I like them the same.

chriskelley2003
09-04-2007, 08:24 AM
i've got chilton, thats what my grandpa always swore by when he was working on anything

edgl
09-04-2007, 08:52 PM
Always use the factory manuals. They are the only good ones to use.

1500chevy5.7l
09-04-2007, 09:31 PM
hayes and chilton but gm still the best...

bizzybone485
09-04-2007, 09:39 PM
i didnt know there was a GM service magazine. Can these still be bought at the GM dearship or such?

gts
09-05-2007, 11:42 AM
Yeah, can you buy them at the dealership, or somewhere else?

Silverado9969
09-05-2007, 03:53 PM
:boobies: :texas: :ford: I like the GM factory service manuals, but if you cant get the manuals I guess Chiltons or Haynes is the next bet

demonstalker
09-05-2007, 04:38 PM
Depending on how long you are keeping the vehicle this might help too: http://www.alldatadiy.com/ Same deal as the factory manuals, just not in the printed form.

I personally have a haynes manual, but it just sits there in the garage. When I need to look something up for my truck I look it up at work on alldata, its the same deal as that link, except for it has pretty much any vehicle since the early 80's.

box_roller
09-06-2007, 12:16 AM
I have the Haynes manual but I flipped through a Chilton and found that the procedures are way more thorough and detail oriented than the Haynes.

tatoodkelt
09-06-2007, 06:35 AM
I have a Haynes for each vehicle but I also have a factory assembly manual for my Chevelle. Saved my butt more than once. I'd like to pick up the GM one for the trucks. Can you just go to a dealership and get them?

ericlw
09-06-2007, 09:17 AM
Their should be a number to order the factory manuals in your trucks losers guide in the back.

03 GMC 1500HD 4X4
09-08-2007, 08:26 AM
chilton here

domano 68
09-13-2007, 07:29 PM
For whatever reason, CHilton. Seems to be put togther better.

TITANIUM
09-13-2007, 07:30 PM
Since the Helms manual is not a option..... I go with chiltons manuals. Haynes manuals are not worth the paper they are printed on.

Anub1s
09-16-2007, 12:03 AM
I've never had a problem finding what I needed in a Chilton manual. But I almost always can't find something in a Haynes.

If you can't have the factory manual, Chilton's the way to go.

TC2000
09-16-2007, 01:47 AM
Chiltons are more detailed but the Haynes has more pictures and is easier to follow

Webash
09-18-2007, 08:56 PM
Have to say I'm a Chiltons guy.

ShotgunFacelift
09-18-2007, 09:01 PM
If you cant get a Factory Service Manual get a Bentley manual. If the FSM or Bentley cant be acquired, Chilton.

justy38
09-19-2007, 07:48 PM
If you do alot of work on your truck probably having both books would be best. Sometimes Chilton doesn't cover something simple and sometimes Haynes don't cover something. The Chilton I have doesn't cover simple things like removing the power steering pump or torque specs for exhaust manifolds.

Bagged 04
10-05-2007, 02:07 PM
I own both and use both cause liek you said more pics in one and better description in the other. I didn't even realize you could get one from gm.

kcb37
10-07-2007, 07:23 PM
Haynes is easier to read and understand but Chiltons is more in depth.

Bullitt
02-25-2008, 11:19 AM
I have a Haynes, but I've never even seen a Chilton. How much do the Factory Service Manuals go for?

adversary
02-25-2008, 12:15 PM
another vote for alldata here!

Chevy Fireman
02-25-2008, 03:23 PM
How much are the factory manuels?

Tom S.
02-26-2008, 05:19 AM
How much are the factory manuels?

Helms manuals are around $150 a set - depending on year and vehicle. Sometimes you can find a used set on ebay. There is no comparison between the Helms manuals and Chilton/Haynes. It's like Mickey Thompson vs Mickey Mouse.

The Helms manuals for my 3500 are a 4 volume set, with each volume about the size of a large phone book. Weighs probably 20 lbs total.

Chevy-Art
02-26-2008, 06:28 PM
The Haynes and Chilton have just enough information to get you into trouble, if you don't know what you are doing.

v6c2500
03-02-2008, 07:12 PM
Found out used chilton's & haynes go for cheap on ebay, although it has been harder finding FSM's for really cheap on there(~$40 on amazon though).

Red Devil
03-03-2008, 04:39 PM
If I can't get a factory service manual, I get one of each. Both will always have something 'missing' or 'unclear' that is likely covered better in the other one.

v6c2500
03-05-2008, 02:08 AM
If I can't get a factory service manual, I get one of each. Both will always have something 'missing' or 'unclear' that is likely covered better in the other one.
Decided to do the same thing. :thumbup:

Silverad04
03-05-2008, 04:50 AM
Is there a none option?

joehawkz71
03-05-2008, 07:50 AM
i have a manual on a CD! GM one that is!

acechevy
03-08-2008, 07:37 AM
Never used a haynes manual. I like the chiltons one. Chiltons is the only ones my cuz has in his shop.

spyvie
03-13-2008, 12:00 PM
FWIW. I have the chilton and haynes for my truck and aside from some wiring schematics in the back, they are identical. Same wording and even the exact same pictures.

89lama
03-15-2008, 03:32 PM
you have to have both, the are like 20 bucks and pay for themselves fast. just my 2C.

spyvie
03-20-2008, 11:33 PM
you have to have both, the are like 20 bucks and pay for themselves fast. just my 2C.
Not sure if that's directed at me, but they are pretty cheap. I got them both from amazon for $17 and change if memory serves.

Texsbluethunder
03-21-2008, 08:16 AM
I use Chiltons for basic stuff, but I subscribe to alldatadiy.com for all the difficult stuff. I think all their info is derived from the GM manual. The diagrams are the same anyways.

Roehl_909
04-26-2008, 02:23 AM
I use Nodata when I'm at school for whatever I can, mainly because it's free.

Normally I stick to Chilton, I'd get an FSM if I was ever into my truck enough to warrant the expense.

I don't trust Haynes manuals much...when I first got my truck the old owner had a Haynes, I was flipping through it looking at simple things, and the only instructions it gave for changing the headlight bulbs had you taking off the grille shell.:whatever:

CDL
04-26-2008, 02:52 AM
looks like my vote just evened it to 50/50. rock on.

lefty321546
04-27-2008, 09:58 AM
chiltons all the way

GreaseDog
05-01-2008, 11:21 AM
factory service manuals. check EBay. :read:

TooTall1
05-10-2008, 07:44 AM
I picked up the 3 volume set of factory service manuals(about 5,000 pages) for $60 on Ebay

Acropolis
05-13-2008, 08:15 AM
Another vote for the factory service manuals. I picked up a complete set for my '88 on ebay for $40 delivered. Provides far more detail than either of the other two.

Just set up an automated search on Ebay that emails you whenever a new set shows up. You should be able to find a cheap set quickly.

frdfandc
05-17-2008, 07:11 AM
I've never liked using Alldata. It seemed to vague to me. Its kinda like using a Chiltons or Haynes manual. Just enough information to piss you off.

However, for the simple stuff I use a Haynes. But for in depth repairs its FSM all the way.

Of course working at dealerships, you get kinda spoiled when using factory service information. GM service is just a phone/fax away from my information.

bored&stroked
05-17-2008, 08:40 PM
Both chiltons and haynes suck, badly. I have both for my 78 and together they don't have everything you need. I got my factory manuals for my 98 for $50, much better idea.

thepusher
06-16-2008, 02:20 AM
Mitchell beats the crap out of both of them

FordeatinZ71
06-19-2008, 11:47 AM
the older Chilton manuals were AWESOME but the newer ones honestly kinda suck...Haynes isn't even really worth having...it's kinda like the friend that sits around drinking all your beer pretending like he knows how to fix your truck, when in all honesty he's as retarded as a football bat...

Helms manuals are the only thing worth having...anything else is a waste of money...

Griff4x4
06-19-2008, 11:57 AM
when in all honesty i'm as retarded as a football bat...


Its ok, we know...
j/k
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FordeatinZ71
06-19-2008, 11:58 AM
Bowling Shoes!

Jesseman445
06-19-2008, 08:08 PM
Chilton out of the two. But since I lost mine when I moved I might have to check out the gm manuals.

tylers88
07-15-2008, 01:49 PM
I have 2 haynes manuals

hundoracer
08-18-2008, 05:03 PM
Hey Gang-
Found a set of 4 service manuals for $89. Is that a good price with $9 shipping?

I like learning things new things about my truck (cars in general) and I use my chilton manual a lot, but if people are saying that the FSM is the best, I would like to purchase it.

thanks,

Ryan

GreaseDog
08-19-2008, 11:20 PM
89 isnt a bad price at all. i paid about that for my 77 manual, and i bought my 80 and 84 (i know, i dont have an 84) manuals for $20. craigslist FTW!

mittelmeier21
08-20-2008, 12:05 AM
I normally use Haynes because it's easier to find one locally. If I order online I get a FSM. When I was going to school I used Mitchell or Alldata depending on what I was looking for. The old Chiltons are worth their weight in gold if you can find one for you vehicle. imo.

mudbuddy
09-11-2008, 06:56 PM
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