full force 7"susp.1500 2wd

[LowRed]

performance lifts is selling a full force 7"kit. it comes with fabbed (not cast) 4" spindles and 3"coils w/ upper control arms.. just wondering if anyone has heard of this brand or kit ....

[y2kboti]

From what I understand(correct me if I am wrong Jeff :D) Full Force is a spin off of CST. I have not seen a FF kit in person but still sounds better than and Fabtech kit. If you don't want to fork out the money for a CST kit FF is a good choice.

OT

An earlier post in your intro thread.

Originally posted by ranchhand
truck needs to grow to look good, but not with a cheap a$$ body lift

No I know that body lifts are looked down upon in the prerunner world but two things. One, they are not cheap $225+install and two, they are functional when it comes to tire clearance. Although you may not like them alot of us with 4wd have them and for good reason. I'm sure you wouldn't like it if I said, "why lift a 2wd?"

[02hoe]

See this thread for the full force suspension.

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42157

[Suareezay]

If its in any way related to CST it must be a pretty good lift kit. But that just doesnt look at all like 7" of lift....looks more like a 3" spindle lift to me. Truck looks good....but whered the lift go?:think:http://users.ev1.net/~ynot_dv8/GMC/Lifted07.jpg

No I know that body lifts are looked down upon in the prerunner world but two things. One, they are not cheap $225+install and two, they are functional when it comes to tire clearance. Although you may not like them alot of us with 4wd have them and for good reason. I'm sure you wouldn't like it if I said, "why lift a 2wd?"

:word: :iamwithst

[LowRed]

on the cst kit it is possible to run 35s with glass and a different bumper. is it possible to do this with this kit?

[LowRed]

No I know that body lifts are looked down upon in the prerunner world but two things. One, they are not cheap $225+install and two, they are functional when it comes to tire clearance. Although you may not like them alot of us with 4wd have them and for good reason. I'm sure you wouldn't like it if I said, "why lift a 2wd?"


i had a body lift on my 95 Z71. mine was a pa kit i paid $93 my cost. I installed it. nothing but problems. the only time it gave me extra clearance for was my bell housing bolts when i did my clutch. I had probs with rattles and noises associated with the lift. not to mention a shorter shifter:gay: My frame also looked stupid along with low bumpers..my z's 4x4 didn't work even with a $200 posi-lock i dont want another 4x unless it has a solid axle

[y2kboti]

Originally posted by 2drTAHOEz71
If its in any way related to CST it must be a pretty good lift kit. But that just doesnt look at all like 7" of lift....looks more like a 3" spindle lift to me. Truck looks good....but whered the lift go?

Thats what happens when you run 18" wheels. Looks good but the lack of sidewall makes the truck look shorter.

Originally posted by ranchhand
i had a body lift on my 95 Z71. mine was a pa kit i paid $93 my cost. I installed it. nothing but problems. the only time it gave me extra clearance for was my bell housing bolts when i did my clutch. I had probs with rattles and noises associated with the lift. not to mention a shorter shifter. My frame also looked stupid along with low bumpers..my z's 4x4 didn't work even with a $200 posi-lock i dont want another 4x unless it has a solid axle

Couple things, if you had all those problems it sounds like you didn't install it right. I along with many member have a body lift and have nothing but good things to say. Rattles? Should've retorqued the bolts. Low bumpers? Should have bought/installed bumper relocation brackets. 4x4 didn't work because of posi? Ever heard of a locker!

[LowRed]

posi-lok for the front. cable actuated positive engagement system. still no work. bolts on body lift retorqued w/ threadlock. ranchhand frontend and rear bumper weak as hell b/c of relocating. 4wp couldn't even find the source of my rattle. neither could gm tech. tech claims lift related, installed correct. :confused: so adios z71 hello 02 no more body lifts

[Suareezay]

i had a body lift on my 95 Z71. mine was a pa kit i paid $93 my cost. I installed it. nothing but problems. the only time it gave me extra clearance for was my bell housing bolts when i did my clutch. I had probs with rattles and noises associated with the lift. not to mention a shorter shifter My frame also looked stupid along with low bumpers

Sounds like a personal problem to me. I nor any of my friends with body lifts or anybody that im aware of on FSC.com has had problems with their body lifts.....

[BULLFROGjohnson]

Originally posted by 2drTAHOEz71


Sounds like a personal problem to me. I nor any of my friends with body lifts or anybody that im aware of on FSC.com has had problems with their body lifts.....


:iamwithst :word: :word:

[LowRed]

I dont mean to piss anyone off, im just saying bl aren't for me.

[y2kboti]

Originally posted by ranchhand
bl aren't for me.

Should have said that to begin with instead of, "cheap a$$ body lift" :nono:

[CrazyAggie05]

oh boy, josh your causing all sorts of problems arent ya? :tongue:

[Jeff@PLC]

Full Force Suspension is ABSOLUTELY NOT RELATED to CST. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if CST hated FFS for stealing their designs. It's like Coke and Pepsi - similar but not the same. FFS basically copied the CST design (no patents on their products) and FFS sells their own version for less. It sucks if you are CST and somebody just comes along and copies your product... but it's no different than what others have done. The CST quality however is higher than FFS. The difference in the 2wd Silverado kit quality between FFS / CST products isn't night and day but you can see it in the pretty welds on the CST spindles. If you've seen a CST spindle in person you know what I mean.

Regarding the kit... it's a true 6-7" kit. As we all know (or should know) a 3" coil spring doesn't ALWAYS lift ALL trucks the full 3" inches. The fabricated 4" spindles provide 4" inches of lift and the springs are good for 2-3" inches. I've seen the same set of springs installed on what appeared to be identical trucks that sat with about a 3/4" inch difference between them. Call it assembly line tolerances, call it whatever you want, not all trucks get a full 7" inches from a 7" kit.

Yes, with fiberglass and some trimming you could run a 35" or metric equivalent tire.

To be perfectly honest... almost all the Silverado 6-7" 2wd kits that use a cast spindle are about the same in quality and performance. I however make an exception to this rule with Chassis Tech / AIM products. I've seen the aftermath of a few AIM products that bit the dust and I refuse to consider their products as a viable alternative. Their quality might be better than it was but...

I'll say it over and over until people listen... shocks are what make the difference. Spend less on the kit, more on the shocks and I bet you'll be a happy camper. You can take a stock truck suspension, bolt on a pair of $1000 dollar shocks and go racing. You can't take a stock truck, bolt on a $2000 dollar kit and do the same with stock shocks.

Jeff @ PLC

PS - Ryall - I write and you just ignore me man... where's the love?

[y2kboti]

I guess "spin off" wasn't the best term to use :banghead: copycat would be more like it.

[Mark]

Originally posted by CrazyAggie05
oh boy, josh your causing all sorts of problems arent ya? :tongue:

oh no, no problems at all. Just clearing things up. It's all good once we understand what we mean and get to know everyone's "online" personality. Just feelin the groove you know? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, it's just the way you express it.

[LowRed]

well, jeff i appreciate the advice.. when the time comes i think we will be talking more. i'm glad to know at least some people think on my wavelength. :head:

[CrazyAggie05]

jeff i swear im not getting your mail!!!!!!!!!! i sent you a private message.....laters