bagged the front

[wannabelower]

Got the front done this week. And would just like to thank both Larry and Tony for being a big help in answering questions both before I bought/made my parts as well as during the install.

For all the guys out there trying to find quality parts at good prices, just call or e-mail Larry. I searched high and low in an attempt to save money and in the end bought everything from him. So you can add yet another name to the already long list of his satisfied customers.

Will get pics on Sunday.

[neverfinished93]

what's your setup for the front? i have the front bagged too.

http://www.thetachi4life.com/movies/bagged.avi

[wannabelower]

The usual: smc 3/8's, viair 450, 5 gallon, art gauge. and putting on art shocks in the morning. Homemade cups/ bottoms angled like art's/ with suicidedoors' circles. Best I can tell no geometry problems from the cups.

[98bluebowtie]

sounds sweet bro got any pics? :rocking: :rocking:

[Razorback_Fan]

My bro has a 97 and he wants to bag the front of his as well can you tell me who "larry is and a number? Also what was your parts list?

Thanks

[smashingchuck]

Originally posted by Razorback_Fan
My bro has a 97 and he wants to bag the front of his as well can you tell me who "larry is and a number? Also what was your parts list?

Thanks

here ya go...
http://www.innovativeairsuspension.com/gfx/welcome.jpg

[wannabelower]

Sorry no pics yet, will shoot for next weekend. Sucks not having a digital cam.

[98bluebowtie]

Originally posted by wannabelower
Sorry no pics yet, will shoot for next weekend. Sucks not having a digital cam.





if you lived closer I would come take some for ya with my digi cam :read:

[tony@air ride]

No problem man.................

Tony....

[Buildnabeauty]

Originally posted by wannabelower
The usual: smc 3/8's, viair 450, 5 gallon, art gauge. and putting on art shocks in the morning. Homemade cups/ bottoms angled like art's/ with suicidedoors' circles. Best I can tell no geometry problems from the cups.

What does the angle do for you? All the cups i've seen are straight perpindicular 90 degrees. If it gives you an advantage of some sort I would be interested in cutting mine to achieve the same angle. Do you remeber what that angle was?

[wannabelower]

In short to try to keep the cups parallel with one another at ride height. Take a look at ART's or Airlift's cups and you'll notice an angle. As far as I know everyone else uses a rather generic design and does not have the angle. Honestly unless you're having problems with your current set-up I probably wouldn't change it. I think it's one of those things were one way works, but the other way is right. I'm going to attach a pm from Roadsurfer. You might try to pm bigchevman for the angle I got it from him but I guess I didn't save his msg.


Roadsurfer's:
My objective, when designing mounts, is to try and keep the bag mounting surfaces as parallel as possible, thru the full range of motion. This is impossible, of course, because the lower control arm swings in an arc, and so the bag mount surfaces are only going to be parallel at full extension or full compression....

....so my design considerations "assume" parallel at full compression...this assumption keeps the bag centerline consistent, even though it travels thru an arc...

...and I consider offset as a function of trying to maintain the bag in a "near vertical" orientation...bags function far better the LESS they "lean"....

So, for the 88-98 full size, I put a slight angle on the upper cup surface, where it registers in the frame...and my lower mounts I build like a short table...four thick "legs", each a different height (none more than an inch, maybe an inch and 1/2 tall), that allow me to "register" the lower mount in the coils spring "ramp"....

...and the amount of offset is a function on the bag I use...Air Lift bags require a bit more space because of their "roll plates"...but I build the offset capacity into the bag mounts by simply slotting the bolt holes....

For reference purposes, on the dually kit that I designed at Air Lift, I offset the upper mount plate 1 1/2"...kind of a beaver tail....because the dually has the necessary space to allow for that. On the 88-98, I slotted the upper and lower bolt holes, which allows sufficient adjustability to get the bag aligned optimally.