Bagged 4x4..........

[BaggedC10]

Any thoughts on this setup? :think:

http://www.sbfreaks.com/psicustoms/evan/evan5.jpg

http://www.sbfreaks.com/psicustoms/evan/evan13.jpg

http://www.sbfreaks.com/psicustoms/evan/evan12.jpg

More pictures here. (http://www.sbfreaks.com/psicustoms/evan.shtml)

[98bluebowtie]

poor 4x4 :bawl: :bawl:

[groundscraper5]

Looks like a KP Components 4 link in the rear. :read:

[1badgmc]

:think: Ok, what's with the 4-link and then the reversed 2-link?? :think:

[1badgmc]

Originally posted by 5-8CHEVY

The reverse bars are the "canti" part of the setup. Gives around 10-12" out of an F6873. :D I'm gonna get one for J's rig in a few months. :D :rocking:
You can buy just their bolt on 4 links for around $450. :D

I'm not sure I like that mount on the UCA, it's got bushings on the bottom so couldn't it essentially rotate and move the bag around way too much? :think: :whatever:

I don't understand how that can work without the front and rear bars working against each other. :think:

[denny]

i had one on my s10 theres like a smaller bar on one of the ends on the link that hinges

[quiksilverz71]

I wonder how much that would cost? Is that from a shop in Cali?

[BaggedC10]

Originally posted by quiksilverz71
I wonder how much that would cost? Is that from a shop in Cali?



Yep. Click the link and check-out their website. :cool:

[LowBlue02]

I don't like that notch.

I really don't see the point in bagging 4x4's? That 4x4 will never lay.

[grounded]

Originally posted by BigBlackGMC
I don't like that notch.

I really don't see the point in bagging 4x4's? That 4x4 will never lay.
I agree. I've never understood lowering a 4x4. Yes I understand the better handling argument and all, but I still couldn't see lowering a 4x4. Different strokes to different folks though I guess.:D

[BaggedTB]

Baggin a 4x4 gets more attention then someone with a 2wd. Over the next few years you watch and i bet there will be nearly as many 4x4 bagged as 2wd. Its just like the next coolest mod that everyone wants to do. Also you can lay out a 4x4. If i finished mine it would be able to lay up front on 23's with the kit i had, just the rear wouldnt unless i step notched it.

[Incredible Hulk]

That front set-up is a hacked up fabtech dual shock hoop.
I dont think the upper control arm is designed to hold up the weight of the truck. those upper ball-joints will break in no time.

[BaggedTB]

Actually yes those upper control arms will hold it b/c they are custom made aftermarkets that are much stronger then the stock cast iron. Also it does have new ball joints that arent pictured. Structurally how they are baggin 4x4's is much stronger then baggin a 2wd b/c they are bracing it very well to make sure nothing can happen. The kit i had for mine was made out of 1/4 steel and steel tubular uppers. The entire weight of mine was like 130lbs in the box.

[Incredible Hulk]

Originally posted by mychev2000
Actually yes those upper control arms will hold it b/c they are custom made aftermarkets that are much stronger then the stock cast iron. Also it does have new ball joints that arent pictured. Structurally how they are baggin 4x4's is much stronger then baggin a 2wd b/c they are bracing it very well to make sure nothing can happen. The kit i had for mine was made out of 1/4 steel and steel tubular uppers. The entire weight of mine was like 130lbs in the box. :bull: :bull: :bull:
That is a hacked up fabteck dual shock hoop. and uca bracket.
you can see the fabtech blue where the tire is rubbing!http://www.offroadworld.net/showownerpic.asp?u=3504&n=82575&pos=2

Looks kind of familiar?:read:

[BaggedTB]

I never said it wasnt. Every kit or setup out there for a 4x4 is similar to a dual shock hoop. The one i had also had a similar shcok hoop that sat atop the frame.

[GnatGoSplat]

I like it. :rocking:

I thought about bagging my 4x4, because I like the lowered look. I don't want to lay frame or body. That guy is as low as I'd ever want to get.
I originally wanted to bag my 4x4 so I could have the sporty lowered look riding on 20's all summer long, and then air up to stock 4x4 height and throw on my stock wheels with snow tires for the winter.

Although mychev2000 says bags don't work like that?

[grounded]

Iguess you can get a 4x4 down. Still a waste of a 4x4 IMO. They could of saved alot of money building a 2wd though.:read:

[Incredible Hulk]

Originally posted by grounded
Iguess you can get a 4x4 down. Still a waste of a 4x4 IMO. They could of saved alot of money building a 2wd though.:read:

The front end is a freakin' hack job! Am I the only one that see's this? those uca's and upper ball-joints are gonna snap!:read:

[grounded]

Originally posted by Incredible Hulk


The front end is a freakin' hack job! Am I the only one that see's this? those uca's and upper ball-joints are gonna snap!:read:
I never said it wasn't. I just said you could get a 4x4 down. There's been enough talk about shi+y work on here that I hope by now people can figure it out for them selves when they see it.:read:

[grounded]

Originally posted by 5-8CHEVY

Sad thing is they still can't. :(
I know.:(

[LowBlue02]

Maybe it's because a 4x4 has a taller frame or somethin', but that doesn't look as low as a 2x. My front airdam seems to be a little lower than that one, but it's hard to tell from those pics.

[BaggedTB]

From those pics its hard to tell b/c he is not on level ground. That front job they did might not allow it to lay out as much, but also dont forget it may not fully lay like yours b/c the 4x4 have the torsion bar crossbrace that hangs down a ways that could prevent it from laying the frame in front. The kit that was going to be put on mine would allow me to lay frame in the front on 23's. I will have to get pics of what my front system looked like. It is top notch and made by Brian Jendro's shop.

[FeeD]

Originally posted by mychev2000
From those pics its hard to tell b/c he is not on level ground. That front job they did might not allow it to lay out as much, but also dont forget it may not fully lay like yours b/c the 4x4 have the torsion bar crossbrace that hangs down a ways that could prevent it from laying the frame in front.

would you even need that brace with bags? wonder how low he can drive it without the cv's binding up :think:

[BaggedTB]

Originally posted by FeeD


would you even need that brace with bags? wonder how low he can drive it without the cv's binding up :think:

I dont see why it couldnt be removed with out any problems. Only thing is its not the only crossbrace hanging below the frame. Actually i am almost 100% sure you can drive it on a 6" drop up front. Here is why: Stock the halfshafts are angled slightly downward towards the wheel. Then you look at a 6" lifted truck and look at their halfshaft angles. Now thats 6" of angle that halfshaft can take with out any problems. The same holds true for going lower but works the opposite way. Since the halfshafts are on a slight downward angle stock that means you can drop it a tad bit more then a lifted guy can lift his.

[Incredible Hulk]

Originally posted by mychev2000


Then you look at a 6" lifted truck and look at their halfshaft angles. Now thats 6" of angle that halfshaft can take with out any problems.

WRONG! The lift kit lowers the differential 6" as well as the lca and uca 6" so the c.v. angles remain stock.

You would have to lift the diff up 6" to make your theory work.

[BaggedTB]

Since you seem to know every ****ing thing there is to know:
http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=567&highlight=cv+angle that is not a stock cv angle and dont even try to tell me it is b/c i have a 4x4 and i know what the cv's were at.

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=567&perpage=15&pagenumber=2 i dont give a rats *** if this has been modified to supress the angle or not i am not a lift expert like yourself. That is one hell of an angle even if the diff is lowered.

Those angles are all driveable and the same would hold true for the opposite. I know what my truck can handle while being low, i have talked with Brian Jendro a few times and also Sal from Temecula Rods and Customs who designed a kit for a 4x4 front end. I know they know what they are talking about since they designed a kit and tested it.

There is no need to yell "WRONG" either, if you want to YELL I CAN DO THE SAME!

[Incredible Hulk]

Originally posted by mychev2000
Since you seem to know every ****ing thing there is to know:
http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=567&highlight=cv+angle that is not a stock cv angle and dont even try to tell me it is b/c i have a 4x4 and i know what the cv's were at.

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=567&perpage=15&pagenumber=2 i dont give a rats *** if this has been modified to supress the angle or not i am not a lift expert like yourself. That is one hell of an angle even if the diff is lowered.

Those angles are all driveable and the same would hold true for the opposite. I know what my truck can handle while being low, i have talked with Brian Jendro a few times and also Sal from Temecula Rods and Customs who designed a kit for a 4x4 front end. I know they know what they are talking about since they designed a kit and tested it.

There is no need to yell "WRONG" either, if you want to YELL I CAN DO THE SAME!

There is no way in hell you can change the angle 6" without moving the diff up or down, the c.v. joint will bind up.

That is a pic of y2kz71's truck, his truck is cranked to 6" but the diff is lowered 4.5" so there is a difference of 1.5".

So to have the opposite you would have to raise the diff. 4.5".

[Kenduhl]

Originally posted by mychev2000
Since you seem to know every ****ing thing there is to know:
http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=567&highlight=cv+angle that is not a stock cv angle and dont even try to tell me it is b/c i have a 4x4 and i know what the cv's were at.

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=567&perpage=15&pagenumber=2 i dont give a rats *** if this has been modified to supress the angle or not i am not a lift expert like yourself. That is one hell of an angle even if the diff is lowered.

Those angles are all driveable and the same would hold true for the opposite. I know what my truck can handle while being low, i have talked with Brian Jendro a few times and also Sal from Temecula Rods and Customs who designed a kit for a 4x4 front end. I know they know what they are talking about since they designed a kit and tested it.

There is no need to yell "WRONG" either, if you want to YELL I CAN DO THE SAME!

you jumped on him being wrong way too fast, he knows what hes talking about, if you own a 4x4 you should know of cranking. which inturn would make your CV angles worse.

[Incredible Hulk]

Thank you Kendall.:cheer:

[Kenduhl]

Originally posted by Incredible Hulk
Thank you Kendall.:cheer:

:cheer:

[tuckermitchell]

so after all that does it mean that i can or i can't lower the front of my 4x4 tahoe 6" and maintain drivability or should I just stick with the belltech kit I got and just go 4"... 6 would look much better guys

[BaggedTB]

Then i must own a one of a kind 4x4, b/c i am dropped 2" in front and my cv's are still angled downward to the tire. I can guaruntee i can still get 4 or more out of it if i wanted to.

[grounded]

Closed for becoming a pissing match.


Woulda been closed sooner but I wasn't on.