door sound deadening complete [pics!]

xAustin · 05-05-2008, 10:14 AM

i know, i know i've posted a few of these already but finished the last door today so figured i'd just start another thread.learned a lot from this and the work went tons faster for the 2nd set of doors. took about 12 hours (lol) total. well, here they are in the order that i applied them on..

///M5 · 05-05-2008, 10:28 AM

Your speakers are crying for a baffle and to have that big hole in your door blocked.

Undisputed King · 05-05-2008, 10:38 AM

M5 beat me to it. Yeah you need to make some baffles. And use some roof flashing or thin galvanized steel to cover it up with self tapping screw. Just deaden the cover individually, so you can just take off the screws and it will come off. My cover didn't cover up the window motor. It went to right before it and stopped. So it is still accessible, but it would be alot easier if I took off the cover. Just buy a 24x24" piece of steel, thats all u need.

xAustin · 05-05-2008, 11:25 AM

completely spaced the baffle, oops.

and yeah going to eventually cover the holes after i replace the mirror motors

Synthetic · 05-05-2008, 12:20 PM

No one's chimed in about your rear fill? I'm shocked. I expected at least 247589 replies about removing your rear speakers for better SQ.

xAustin · 05-05-2008, 12:42 PM

what do you mean?

Undisputed King · 05-05-2008, 01:31 PM

Many people on here do not run rear speakers because it messes with your front stage. It brings your front stage to the back of the truck instead of to the driver. And this causes the music to not be so clear. So instead of buying 2 sets of components, people buy one set of really good components for the front. And this makes the music clear and you have a definite front stage.

Undisputed King · 05-05-2008, 10:02 PM

Well here are a few pictures I took while deadening with the RAAMMat. You told me to take some so here they are.

Mat inside the door. I put like 3 layers directly behind the speaker. like 12x12 squares.

My speaker baffles that didnt work, because I had some clearance issues with the door panel. I made some new ones but I didnt take any pictures of them, but I did seal them in the end.

All the galvanized steel covers screwed on. I just used self tapping screws. Just covering up the holes without deadener put a big boost in midbass to my drivers.

My door all wrapped up, and finished but without the new baffle on. Well there is the process I used. I only did two doors so far. I still have yet to do the roof.

xAustin · 05-06-2008, 04:28 AM

looks good

BassBaller5 · 05-06-2008, 05:28 AM

Keep in mind, reducing the pannel resonance will do very little for your overall sound.

Its when you combine the mass loading with a proper wave baffle, coupling, and sealing of the doors that your speakers will start to shine.

Great looking start though man!

///M5 · 05-06-2008, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BassBaller5

Keep in mind, reducing the pannel resonance will do very little for your overall sound.

Its when you combine the mass loading with a proper wave baffle, coupling, and sealing of the doors that your speakers will start to shine.

Great looking start though man!

Except removing undue colorations from panel modes which our trucks have a lot of; however, your point about the sealing, coupling will indeed be the cure to bring out the midbass and hop up the midrange clarity.

Undisputed King · 05-06-2008, 02:59 PM

I deadened my roof today. My roof still flexes like 1/8". I put like 3 layers on the active spots. It doesnt rattle anymore, but still flexes. Is that flexing stealing from my subwoofer output? If it does will more deadener fix it?

pl4yboy · 05-06-2008, 03:46 PM

Flexing is normal... You can't do much about that.

BassBaller5 · 05-06-2008, 04:29 PM

while it is pretty hard to remove all flexing, More mass loading can always help.

However i would break away from trying to use 10 layers of Raammat up there as that will just add unnecessary bulk. If you have a panel thats resonating as much as your roof, take more drastic measures to reduce the resonance. This is where coupling MDF, tacking metal strips, etc comes into play.

Its alot of work but is it worth it? Idk... its your system

AuburnTruck93 · 05-06-2008, 05:41 PM

ride with a sand bag on top of the roof. problem solved.

i think you would do well with some mdf on the roof but seeing as the raamat is alrdy down i dont see a way to attach something like that effectively.

Bens95cobra8594 · 05-06-2008, 05:54 PM

loox like a winner

atenisplyr · 06-03-2008, 08:39 AM

Those have got to be some heavy ass doors. Mine are covered in Dynamat Extreme and they weight a LOT!

Exalted512 · 06-03-2008, 09:27 AM

you can glue MDF to the roof, even over deadener...as long as your deadener holds.

I have this done to my truck and I can barely push it down with my hand.
-Cody

05-05-2008, 10:14 AM	#1
xAustin knows nothing, needs help Status: Offline Join Date: Jul 2007 Member ID: 72054 Pics: My Gallery Location: WI Posts: 636	door sound deadening complete [pics!] i know, i know i've posted a few of these already but finished the last door today so figured i'd just start another thread.learned a lot from this and the work went tons faster for the 2nd set of doors. took about 12 hours (lol) total. well, here they are in the order that i applied them on.. 02 5.3 silverado

05-05-2008, 10:28 AM	#2
///M5 Registered User Status: Online Join Date: Jan 2006 Member ID: 40623 Pics: My Gallery Location: MN Posts: 5,329	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] Your speakers are crying for a baffle and to have that big hole in your door blocked. 1991 BMW M5 -- Eclipse 8454, Eclipse PA5532, Seas W18E IB, Alpine-Scan D2904/6000, SoundSplinter Rli8 .65 tuned to 30hz 2002 Chevy Silverado -- 880prs, Seas CA18RNX, LPG 25nfa, Mach 5 IXL-12, JL 1000/1 & 450/4

05-05-2008, 10:38 AM	#3
Undisputed King Σ∫Chevy dx Status: Offline Join Date: Sep 2007 Member ID: 74304 Pics: My Gallery Location: Cen Cal High Rollin' Age: 19 Posts: 230	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] M5 beat me to it. Yeah you need to make some baffles. And use some roof flashing or thin galvanized steel to cover it up with self tapping screw. Just deaden the cover individually, so you can just take off the screws and it will come off. My cover didn't cover up the window motor. It went to right before it and stopped. So it is still accessible, but it would be alot easier if I took off the cover. Just buy a 24x24" piece of steel, thats all u need. I'm back! I'm sorry to say though that I dont primarily roll in a FSC anymore. 2000 Silverado Ext - 10" Whiplash Susp, 20" KMC Rockstars, 36" Swampers, Super 40,Panasonic HU, Kicker sound: KS, 354xi, zx750.1, 10" L7, KX3 2001 Yamaha YZF-R1 - NO SOUND! Leo Vinci Slip-on, Hot Cams, K&N

05-05-2008, 11:25 AM	#4
xAustin knows nothing, needs help Status: Offline Join Date: Jul 2007 Member ID: 72054 Pics: My Gallery Location: WI Posts: 636	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] completely spaced the baffle, oops. and yeah going to eventually cover the holes after i replace the mirror motors 02 5.3 silverado

05-05-2008, 12:20 PM	#5
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05-05-2008, 12:42 PM	#6
xAustin knows nothing, needs help Status: Offline Join Date: Jul 2007 Member ID: 72054 Pics: My Gallery Location: WI Posts: 636	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] what do you mean? 02 5.3 silverado

05-05-2008, 01:31 PM	#7
Undisputed King Σ∫Chevy dx Status: Offline Join Date: Sep 2007 Member ID: 74304 Pics: My Gallery Location: Cen Cal High Rollin' Age: 19 Posts: 230	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] Many people on here do not run rear speakers because it messes with your front stage. It brings your front stage to the back of the truck instead of to the driver. And this causes the music to not be so clear. So instead of buying 2 sets of components, people buy one set of really good components for the front. And this makes the music clear and you have a definite front stage. I'm back! I'm sorry to say though that I dont primarily roll in a FSC anymore. 2000 Silverado Ext - 10" Whiplash Susp, 20" KMC Rockstars, 36" Swampers, Super 40,Panasonic HU, Kicker sound: KS, 354xi, zx750.1, 10" L7, KX3 2001 Yamaha YZF-R1 - NO SOUND! Leo Vinci Slip-on, Hot Cams, K&N

05-05-2008, 10:02 PM	#8
Undisputed King Σ∫Chevy dx Status: Offline Join Date: Sep 2007 Member ID: 74304 Pics: My Gallery Location: Cen Cal High Rollin' Age: 19 Posts: 230	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] Well here are a few pictures I took while deadening with the RAAMMat. You told me to take some so here they are. Mat inside the door. I put like 3 layers directly behind the speaker. like 12x12 squares. My speaker baffles that didnt work, because I had some clearance issues with the door panel. I made some new ones but I didnt take any pictures of them, but I did seal them in the end. All the galvanized steel covers screwed on. I just used self tapping screws. Just covering up the holes without deadener put a big boost in midbass to my drivers. My door all wrapped up, and finished but without the new baffle on. Well there is the process I used. I only did two doors so far. I still have yet to do the roof. I'm back! I'm sorry to say though that I dont primarily roll in a FSC anymore. 2000 Silverado Ext - 10" Whiplash Susp, 20" KMC Rockstars, 36" Swampers, Super 40,Panasonic HU, Kicker sound: KS, 354xi, zx750.1, 10" L7, KX3 2001 Yamaha YZF-R1 - NO SOUND! Leo Vinci Slip-on, Hot Cams, K&N

05-06-2008, 04:28 AM	#9
xAustin knows nothing, needs help Status: Offline Join Date: Jul 2007 Member ID: 72054 Pics: My Gallery Location: WI Posts: 636	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] looks good 02 5.3 silverado

05-06-2008, 05:28 AM	#10
BassBaller5 Registered User Status: Offline Join Date: Feb 2006 Member ID: 41841 Pics: My Gallery Location: College Station, Texas Posts: 1,719	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] Keep in mind, reducing the pannel resonance will do very little for your overall sound. Its when you combine the mass loading with a proper wave baffle, coupling, and sealing of the doors that your speakers will start to shine. Great looking start though man! ///Alpine/Seas/Dynaudio/Sundown/RF/MTX

05-06-2008, 02:59 PM	#12
Undisputed King Σ∫Chevy dx Status: Offline Join Date: Sep 2007 Member ID: 74304 Pics: My Gallery Location: Cen Cal High Rollin' Age: 19 Posts: 230	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] I deadened my roof today. My roof still flexes like 1/8". I put like 3 layers on the active spots. It doesnt rattle anymore, but still flexes. Is that flexing stealing from my subwoofer output? If it does will more deadener fix it? I'm back! I'm sorry to say though that I dont primarily roll in a FSC anymore. 2000 Silverado Ext - 10" Whiplash Susp, 20" KMC Rockstars, 36" Swampers, Super 40,Panasonic HU, Kicker sound: KS, 354xi, zx750.1, 10" L7, KX3 2001 Yamaha YZF-R1 - NO SOUND! Leo Vinci Slip-on, Hot Cams, K&N

05-06-2008, 03:46 PM	#13
pl4yboy Registered User Status: Offline Join Date: Feb 2008 Member ID: 82895 Pics: My Gallery Location: Crowder, Oklahoma Age: 19 Posts: 393	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] Flexing is normal... You can't do much about that. Last edited by pl4yboy : 05-06-2008 at 03:47 PM.

05-06-2008, 04:29 PM	#14
BassBaller5 Registered User Status: Offline Join Date: Feb 2006 Member ID: 41841 Pics: My Gallery Location: College Station, Texas Posts: 1,719	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] while it is pretty hard to remove all flexing, More mass loading can always help. However i would break away from trying to use 10 layers of Raammat up there as that will just add unnecessary bulk. If you have a panel thats resonating as much as your roof, take more drastic measures to reduce the resonance. This is where coupling MDF, tacking metal strips, etc comes into play. Its alot of work but is it worth it? Idk... its your system ///Alpine/Seas/Dynaudio/Sundown/RF/MTX

05-06-2008, 05:54 PM	#16
Bens95cobra8594 . Status: Offline Join Date: Jun 2007 Member ID: 70082 Pics: My Gallery Location: . Posts: 346	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] loox like a winner

06-03-2008, 08:39 AM	#17
atenisplyr HittingBadPitchesSince82 Status: Offline Join Date: Feb 2007 Member ID: 63845 Pics: My Gallery Location: The Republic of Texas Age: 25 Posts: 529	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] Those have got to be some heavy ass doors. Mine are covered in Dynamat Extreme and they weight a LOT! '97 GMC ECSB L31: Thorley Tri-Y Headers, 3" Cats, 2.5" True Duals, K&N FIPK, 143db System, AVICN-2, Kinetik 2400, 0 Gauge Everywhere, Full MSD System, HIDs, LS1 Fans, Wheatley Tuned, D/S Maf, No EGR TB Plate, CD/S Rotors Looking for a ZZ3/4 cam, S10 TC and a nice PCV catch can.

06-03-2008, 09:27 AM	#18
Exalted512 ^^did your mom Status: Offline Join Date: Mar 2004 Member ID: 13403 Pics: My Gallery Location: College Station, Texas Age: 22 Posts: 6,592	Re: door sound deadening complete [pics!] you can glue MDF to the roof, even over deadener...as long as your deadener holds. I have this done to my truck and I can barely push it down with my hand. -Cody 04 GMC system in the works: Pioneer DEH-940MP, RF T8002 on Peerless XLS 8" midbasses, RF T8004 on DLS Iridium 3" midrange and tweeter, RF T40001 on 2 Adire Brahma 12s, RF 360.2º processor

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