67-72 or 73-87

[Crummy]

Originally Posted by gearheadperkins

u have any pics of the 69 short bed with the 396 in it . that is the drive train that i would love to stuff into one 4sp and all

There were a rare few of those original. 402 big block.

[gearheadperkins]

dont you guys wish the engines were still like that today, and that easy to work on with out the need for programmers and sensors, the only programmer need on these is your self which is the way it should be in my opinion. so CRUMMY is the 402 big block same as the 396 just bigger bore. i have not heard much about 402.

[bigolblackie]

Originally Posted by trickedout420

or be like my neighbor and buy both years and leave them sitting on jack stands year round.. ill get pics of this tomorrow after work if hes not home.

My truck sat on jackstands for the first five years I had it.

[NovaMan]

Originally Posted by gearheadperkins

dont you guys wish the engines were still like that today, and that easy to work on with out the need for programmers and sensors, the only programmer need on these is your self which is the way it should be in my opinion. so CRUMMY is the 402 big block same as the 396 just bigger bore. i have not heard much about 402.

I agree.

396s had 4.094" bores, and 402s had 4.124" bores. IIRC, GM switched some time in 1969.

[bob308]

i don't have any picks right now. but can tell you the clutch set up is different then a small block. the cross shaft the way the ball bolts on the block is all by itself. the ball on the frame bolts on back father then the small block.

the frame mounts for the motor are different too. but you can get by with the sb ones there. for exhaust you use on the right side chevelle. on the left impala. that is what the factory used.
power sterring is the same as 66-67 chevelle big block. same for the alt. set up. short water pump.

[bob308]

chevy made the change to 402 in 70. it was a .030 over 396. it was something about the bigger bore bruning cleaner so the smoge pump was not needed.

you will not find 402 listed in the parts books. it will come under 400 4bl. the 400 2 bl. was the small block.

[gearheadperkins]

thanks for all the info guys. where do all you guys get the info on the engine and what what were used from the factory and what not. like the different manifolds and the bore's that are different, etc. i belive i know a quite a bit about the chevy world but not quite this much. what resources do you guys use.

[gearheadperkins]

Originally Posted by bob308

i don't have any picks right now. but can tell you the clutch set up is different then a small block. the cross shaft the way the ball bolts on the block is all by itself. the ball on the frame bolts on back father then the small block.

the frame mounts for the motor are different too. but you can get by with the sb ones there. for exhaust you use on the right side chevelle. on the left impala. that is what the factory used.
power sterring is the same as 66-67 chevelle big block. same for the alt. set up. short water pump.

like this info

[gearheadperkins]

Originally Posted by bob308

chevy made the change to 402 in 70. it was a .030 over 396. it was something about the bigger bore bruning cleaner so the smoge pump was not needed.

you will not find 402 listed in the parts books. it will come under 400 4bl. the 400 2 bl. was the small block.

and this

[gearheadperkins]

Originally Posted by NovaMan

I agree.

396s had 4.094" bores, and 402s had 4.124" bores. IIRC, GM switched some time in 1969.

this too

[bob308]

well i grew up with the 67-72 trucks. worked for a dealer in 69 as a truck machinic. i am second owner of a 69 396 truck.

i also delt in parts for that model truck for years. restored more then one of them.

[gearheadperkins]

on that makes sense. do you know of any websites that would have info like this. or any book that i can buy. i would eventually like to know just about every little detail about chevy's

[bob308]

i don't know of any boks that tell you the little things to look for when you are looking at the trucks or parts. things like.

the difference between 69-70 and 71-72 front fenders is the 69-70's the motor badge is unde the model trim and the 71-72 it is under the side marker light.

on cabs 68-70 have a spot formed for the rear view mirror to screw to the 71-72 are smothe because the mirror glues to the windshield.

67 had no side marker lights or reflectors. 68 was reflectors only 69 reflectors. lights optional. 70 on had lights.

in the dash no c10 c20 or c30 had a factory vacumn gage if there is one the dash came out of a big truck with vacumn breaks.you will find this mostly on the factory tach trucks that some one made up.

up thru 72 all the alt. were on the drivers side with a short water pump.

thru 70 c10 trucks had 6 bolt wheels and drum breaks. 71 first year for 5 bolt wheels and disc breaks.

72 doors where the only oones to have a screw in the top of the door under the windwing.

[gearheadperkins]

well you know a hell of a lot and thanks for all the great info . knowing all these little tips make me want a 67 even more. i am a little more intresting in this model because of the grill i love the 2 piece style that is completly open with no billet or anyting just the little chrome outer shells upper and lower. anyway thanks for all the info. and feel free to email me or post more little tips like above if you are bored. not only with c10's of this year but any make or model of chevys for that matter. u have been a big help . thanks

[NovaMan]

The stuff I know has mostly come from magazine features and books.

[gearheadperkins]

well thanks for all the info guys..

[SICKT7]

well, I like the 67-72 trucks, 67/68 being my favorite because of the front clip, but I'm partial.....Here's mine:

[gearheadperkins]

Originally Posted by SICKT7

well, I like the 67-72 trucks, 67/68 being my favorite because of the front clip, but I'm partial.....Here's mine:

that pic is sweet and it almost doesnt look real. is it bagged in this pic or just really lowered. this is about one of the nicest c10's i have ever seen.

[CscottsSS]

WOW, SICKT7, beautiful truck!

[NovaMan]

Very nice truck.