How much lift?

[beatty97]

I'm building an 82 1 ton flat bed dually. Want to run 35-14.50 hawgs up front and 9.00 16's in the back. i was thinking 6" or so.

[GreaseDog]

6" minimum for such a wide tire. how tall are 9.00 16s? is this a dually?

[beatty97]

9.00 16s are roughly 35s + or - 1/2" and yes it has 4 across the back

[GreaseDog]

why not run 6 equally sized tires?

[Ivan D.]

Cause he won't easily fit anything that wide in the rear, besides good luck finding 16x10 dually wheels without getting a price tag shock. Stock dually wheels are only like 6" or 6.5" wide, by the way, so for the front he'll either have to either send the dually wheels for widening, or pull the hub extenders and convert to SRW front and run regular 16x10s. I know I'll be having my fronts widened, this way I won't have to carry two different spares, and if worse comes to worst I could just pull two of the rear wheels and throw them in the front and limp it home just fine - can't do that if you pull the extenders.

[GreaseDog]

duallies with wide tires in the front just look stupid. plus, the difference in tire size may compromise the life of your transfer case.

[Roadworker]

Any photos of her in the rebuilding stage

[beatty97]

not yet it doesn't need much 15000 orignal miles and the cab is perfect. all daullys need wide tires in the front skinny ties look dumb

[beatty97]

why would you run down the road in 4hi any way. with a dually you seldom heed 4 wheel drive if you can drive

[Ivan D.]

Originally Posted by GreaseDog

duallies with wide tires in the front just look stupid. plus, the difference in tire size may compromise the life of your transfer case.

Well, I'd rather look stupid than become a dirt road paperweight on some softer terrain And sure you can run equally wide tires in the rear as well, but you will need the custom wheels - the inboard ones will likely need widened towards the outside of the truck to avoid rubbing issues with the bed sides and or spring leafs, and the outboard wheels will also need widened towards the outside of the truck but may also need the centers relocated, at which point I'd also reinforce them with some ridges between the wheel face and the rim circle. That can all be easily done by a suitable shop (like the one we got around here, in Taylor IIRC), but won't be cheap, and then there's always the issue with overall truck width, with for 16x10 rear wheels truck will be right about a foot wider - there go the fender flares and all that BS to keep the truck legal...

[GreaseDog]

Originally Posted by beatty97

why would you run down the road in 4hi any way. with a dually you seldom heed 4 wheel drive if you can drive

i drive my 77 around in 4 hi all the time. why? because i dont have a choice, there is no 2wd selection on my shifter. i wasnt referring to just driving it on the pavement, i was referring to any time you pull the lever. mud, snow, dirt, ice, whatever.
what part of Ohio are you in? around here, if we get a good snow, we're pulling duallys out of the ditches left and right. i've plowed with duallies before, and it SUCKS. not only do they not turn for ish, but they tend to get a little crazy in 2wd. something about too wide of a "tire" and the rear end wants to float around, rather than dig a little for traction. if you went with something like a 35 x 14 you should be able to get a matching tire on the back, it might require a spacer between the duals and some longer wheel studs, but it would look 10x better than a pair of big wide ground hawgs on the front and god knows what else out back.

the only mix match of tires i've seen that looked decent, and as if it made sense was the TSL front/Boggers in the rear combo that's popular with the mud guys. if i get some room where i can do it, i'm planning on building an S10 with 36 12.50 TSLs up front (with 3.73 gears) and 39.5 18 boggers in the back (with 4.10s). transfer case life wont be a huge concern as it'll get trailered everywhere it needs to go, just a mud toy.

[Ivan D.]

Originally Posted by GreaseDog

what part of Ohio are you in? around here, if we get a good snow, we're pulling duallys out of the ditches left and right. i've plowed with duallies before, and it SUCKS. not only do they not turn for ish, but they tend to get a little crazy in 2wd. something about too wide of a "tire" and the rear end wants to float around, rather than dig a little for traction.

Oh yes, that's entirely true, mine can easily get all over the road if I don't pay attention - diesel and 235s keep the front well planted to the ground, but considering the only weight I have in the rear is my 200lbs supercap a harder push on the throttle will cause wheel spin and dancing around in no time, also if I take my foot off the throttle and then downshift before the rpms drop down the rear wheels "lock" and slide for a few seconds again - neither issues is too bad tho, if you know your truck you can easily predict its moves. On the other hand most duallies I've seen in the ditches around here seem to be the crew-cab Dodge 3500 diesels, which coincidentally are the most likely trucks to fly by you at like 20mph over the speed limit even when hauling a tri-axle... Maybe the Jeep thing is getting contagious, after all they are from the same family?

[GreaseDog]

Originally Posted by Ivan D.

if you know your truck you can easily predict its moves.

very true, very true. my 77 had 3 wheel brakes for a while, never did figure out why, the 4th started working one day last winter and i didnt complain. just knew how it was going to react when i hit the pedal, and knew how i needed to react. though its not hard to get distracted for a split second and then you're beyond your chance of reaction.

[GreaseDog]

Originally Posted by Ivan D.

Maybe the Jeep thing is getting contagious, after all they are from the same family?

very true, its just a shame that they put such a good powerplant in a turd of a truck.

[loosescrew79]

Back To Your Question.....you Could Get A Two Inch Spacer For The Rear Wheels. You Would Have To Put Them On The Truck Before Airing Them Up. Seen It Done

[beatty97]

my 97 dodge with a cummins is a dually 33x12.50 fronts 255/75/16 out back.thing goes like a tank . you just have to now howw to drive. now to 4 wheel drive i use 4 wheel only i repeat only when needed if it snows I use it wnen the rear spins and go back to 2hi when i get traction at the rear. same deal in mud, dirt. back off the cummins trucks there is nothing jeep about them. i was planning on running a tire called (power kats) they look just like a long bar sort bar gound hawg the old ones. and one other thing my truck has a 205 case so i will have 2HI.

[beatty97]

to answer loose screw i think a 2" spacer is needed with 9.00/16 i had to with my dodge 255/75/16

[JCampbell1180]

Originally Posted by GreaseDog

...but it would look 10x better than a pair of big wide ground hawgs on the front and god knows what else out back.

X's 2

[beatty97]

to each his own i not going to argue about what tires I am going to run on MY truck

[Ivan D.]

Originally Posted by beatty97

back off the cummins trucks there is nothing jeep about them.

I was referring to the haughty "it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand" sign lotsa Jeepers put on their windshields, and comparing that to the supreme a-hole attitude typically displayed by my local Dodge 3500 crew-cab diesel dually crowd - nothing wrong with them trucks, tis all in the behind-the-wheel device Don't take it personal tho, just like I don't take it personal when someone here starts bashing on the blue oval

On the spacer thing - how long are these studs? I could use something like 1" ring on my stock studs, I'd assume you guys can't get away with more either, so for the 2" spacer you have to switch studs, right? Also how wide are those 9.00/16 tires, you have to remember the stock wheels are only like 6.5" wide, if even that - running too wide of a tire on a narrow wheel ain't a good idea, especially on a big truck