Clay Bar?

[97c1500gmc]

wont dawn soap take the finish off the paint, i heard you arent supposed to use this
the dishwashing type?

[thekl0wn]

Like was stated earlier, the Dawn will help remove the old wax... You really need to re-wax after washing with this, but it will give great results.

[Xonair]

Which reminds me I need to clay the land rover. This is awsome and I to do this twice a year.

[xAustin]

did my truck the other day... gotta love it..

i used the mothers claybar and lube crap

[97c1500gmc]

so is this the proper process...
1. wash w/ dawn
2. claybar w/ lube
3. polish with haze or scratch remover
4. wax

also, can you use claybar on wheels?

[thekl0wn]

Personally, I like to wash to rinse off major dirt, then go back and use fresh soap as my lube.

[Xonair]

I use quick detailer as my lube. works great

[Chris @ GGD]

Originally Posted by 97c1500gmc

so is this the proper process...
1. wash w/ dawn
2. claybar w/ lube
3. polish with haze or scratch remover
4. wax

also, can you use claybar on wheels?

Washing w/ dawn is not required. The initial wash can be w/ standard auto shampoo if you'd like. Otherwise, yes, order is correct.
You can definitely use clay on the wheels. You can also use it on glass as well :) As always, try to use a clean piece of clay if possible.

[xAustin]

Originally Posted by Xonair

I use quick detailer as my lube. works great

i know im immature but... lol

[xAustin]

oh make sure when you're claying... you are NOT putting any pressure on the clay. if you do, you will end up scratching the clearcoat to say the least

[Neduh]

Originally Posted by Chris @ GGD

Washing w/ dawn is not required. The initial wash can be w/ standard auto shampoo if you'd like. Otherwise, yes, order is correct.
You can definitely use clay on the wheels. You can also use it on glass as well :) As always, try to use a clean piece of clay if possible.

will a standard shampoo take the previous wax off though? I used mothers fx wax which is more of a quick detailer but dont know if it will be removed with a simple wash or will it require more muscle??

[andrewdirt101]

if you clay the truck, that pretty well strips everything off. that should take care of any residual wax. so be sure you re-wax after you clay it, because its not protected after you do that.

[Neduh]

Originally Posted by andrewdirt101

if you clay the truck, that pretty well strips everything off. that should take care of any residual wax. so be sure you re-wax after you clay it, because its not protected after you do that.

Coolio! Sorry for the thread jacking! Good tips in this thread!

[97c1500gmc]

so what is the proper claybar method just rubbing the claybar back and foreth in an overlapping type pattern in a small area

[firestorm]

Here are before and after pics of our '97 Cutlass with 197k miles on it. Mind you, I do this at least once a year, so this is merely contaminants that have built up since last spring. I think the pics speak for themselves.

Passenger Rear Door
The rust seen here has "bled" through from the inside door seam. Before:

After:


Before:

After:


Here it is, all finished, with fresh wax. You can probably guess the year, but can you guess how many miles are on it?

[Chris @ GGD]

Originally Posted by 97c1500gmc

so what is the proper claybar method just rubbing the claybar back and foreth in an overlapping type pattern in a small area

Yes, back/forth motions w/ a product like spray n wipe as your clay lube.

[melncal]

Originally Posted by 97c1500gmc

so what is the proper claybar method just rubbing the claybar back and foreth in an overlapping type pattern in a small area

It's very easy to do...I have a write up and couple of video demos on my website showing how to clay:

http://paintcarendetailing.com/clay.html

[Skulls]

I had the local stealership bodyshop guy tell me that you can even use (foam spray) glass cleaner as a lubricant and it works really well he actually used it on a small sectrion of my truck and it worked amazing.

[btnhtillidie]

Heres a question....

I have clayed my truck I know it works well, I also picked up polishing compound for heavy scratches and to buff out some things. if I use the polishing compound then the bar will that work? or is it one or the other?

[Chris @ GGD]

Originally Posted by btnhtillidie

Heres a question....

I have clayed my truck I know it works well, I also picked up polishing compound for heavy scratches and to buff out some things. if I use the polishing compound then the bar will that work? or is it one or the other?

You would want to use the clay first, then any compounds/polishes 2nd. If the truck doesnt need claying, you can do the polish first, then just clay again next time its required.