Diesel fuel law?

[red suburban]

Originally Posted by the moose

sweet.

with all this talk about running cars on all kinds of funky ideas of fuel, like e85 and blah blah. why not just run everything on bio diesel or a blend of bio diesel and the new diesel?

hell ya! or y not just manufacture pure biodiesel? i know full well that it mixes with regular diesel degelling additives, i used to make my own bio during the fall/winter/spring, no problems except for smellin long john silvers every time i was at a red light for more than a few seconds (makes u really hungry). its cheap to make, the emmisions are minimal and if you adjust your timing slightly your emmisions are almost nothing. can the US produce enough for all of our diesel engines to run on b100? yes. we would have to stop telling our farmers to quite producing at 50-80% and go up to 75-85% or their production ability, but theres nothing wrong with that. and all the extra crops that we waste? and used vegetable oil? i spent 45-50 cents a gallon after i set up my methanol recovery system and i never had any problems. lubrication ability of biodiesel? as stated before its wonderfull. its not hard to produce, helps OUR COUNTRY, not the middle east that wants to kill us. biggest downside is that our oil companies will suffer (ohhhh nooooo!!! the rich *******s will lose money!!!! )but they could make money by being the ones to refine it, distribute it, and produce it. so guess what, they would still be rich, and not have to spend a fortune on oil from the middle east. does this make sense to anybody else? or have i gone insane?

[LostBoy]

Originally Posted by red suburban

...does this make sense to anybody else? or have i gone insane?

I think it makes sense to everybody but the folks that line their pockets w/ oil industry profits... Unfortunately, they're also the ones that are making the calls. They're rich & getting richer, whereas biodiesel may or may not be as profitable - why would they mess w/ that? I don't see it happening on a wide scale unless enough people start making & using their own to cause a significant loss to the oil industry.

[bigmatt]

ulsd is being mandated to allow the use of paticulate trap type aftertreatments. The fuel along with low ash oil. Ash depsits from oil burn off will also clog your new style cats.

[justy]

Thank you for asking Chevrolet and for your interest in Low Sulfur Diesel!

Diesel-powered engines for 2007 and later model year highway vehicles are designed to operate only with Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) fuel. Improper fuel use will reduce the efficiency and durability of engines, permanently damage advanced emissions control systems, reduce fuel economy and possibly
prevent the vehicles from running at all. Manufacturer warranties are likely to be voided by improper fuel use. Additionally, burning Low Sulfur Diesel fuel in 2007 and later model year diesel-powered cars, trucks and buses is illegal and punishable with civil penalties.

Please be advised that the 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic equipped with a Diesel Engine LBZ can use either the Low Sulfur Fuel (LSF) with 500 PPM or the ULSF with 15 PPM.

[blackbike82]

My brother in the refinery industry told me a little about the ULSD. Apparently there is a new type of hardware that is going on the new trucks. He also said if you put in 1 tank of High sulfur or low sulfur it will plug up this "thing." This thing isn't cheap either around $2k to fix.
The good news is that this is the only fuel that will be available except for locomotives. I don't know if the ULSD will be dyed differently. I know the Loco fuel they use where I work is Kool Aide red.
Talking about BD he mentioned that they had some engines they ran on BD. These Engines developed Lubrication problems. I tried Mystic Synthetic blend oil in my dads truck and that took care of a valve tick that lucas, marvel, and slick 50 wouldn't.

[LostBoy]

Originally Posted by blackbike82

My brother in the refinery industry told me a little about the ULSD. Apparently there is a new type of hardware that is going on the new trucks. He also said if you put in 1 tank of High sulfur or low sulfur it will plug up this "thing." This thing isn't cheap either around $2k to fix.
The good news is that this is the only fuel that will be available except for locomotives. I don't know if the ULSD will be dyed differently. I know the Loco fuel they use where I work is Kool Aide red.
Talking about BD he mentioned that they had some engines they ran on BD. These Engines developed Lubrication problems. I tried Mystic Synthetic blend oil in my dads truck and that took care of a valve tick that lucas, marvel, and slick 50 wouldn't.

The new thing he's talking about is a diesel particulate filter. It does just like the name implies and catches particles in your exhaust stream and stores them. Constant monitoring of the the DPF lets your computer know when it is getting "full" and it runs a cycle to clean it by cranking up EGT to burn it all off. All the OEM's say they're good in excess of 150,000 miles, so conveniently they'll last you for a bit outside of your warranty

[Zodiac]

When I was in Wisconsin with the bus company we switched to ULSD. We went through about 10,500 gallons of fuel a week. We ran the stuff in diesel motors as old as 1998 and as new as 2005. (No 2007s, YET) And the only problems we had was fuel filter clogging in the Ford/International DT444Es. But that's because they have a relatively small fuel filter. Our International DT466Es would clog too, but not nearly as often.

In Illinois, where I am now, we have to run bio-diesel by law, and I still have no opinion on bio-diesel. It seems to do pretty good, but I haven't been here long enough to see any issues. Of course, here we change fuel filters every 9,000 miles. Mostly because of the Cummins 5.9L POS.

[dozerboy]

All diesel will be ULSD red dye diesel is for off road use only but is still ULSD.