would you buy your truck over again?

[Swampperman]

Originally Posted by Chevyman247

Yes, I have seen it around town, but it was a few months ago, I think it had fender flairs too.
Thats a bad ass dodge dude! Where is it now??

Was the tranny an auto? Dodge manual trannys are suppost to be alot stronger than their autos.

Who did the lift? POR?

Have you seen Brian Humphrey's black Dodge with 2.5ton axles and 40 some tires sitting in front of POR? thats a bad truck too!

I would buy a Dmax if I had the money, I have just been thinking about a 12valve because I see them for sale in the 5K-10K mark which is perfect for me.

What do you drive now?

He couldn't afford it so he sold it then some kid in Jacksonville totaled it I guess but it was an auto. Yeah POR did the lidt for him. B Humps dodge badass my brother just finished his nissan on 2.5s hes out at austin meritt opnce in a blue moon and hopefully I'll start my own truck but it'll be for tugs more than mud. Whats your name? I'm Jarad Olson Im usually out where you live either working on a truck or at the mudhole but I've seen your truck around its nice.

[97silvy]

There is a guy from my area with a 2wd dually cummins and he claims his brother works at Scheid diesel outside of Effingham. He claims to have 1600rwhp and 3000+ft.lb. of torque. i think hes blowing smoke out his ass personally. but as far as trannies go, i would say ATS or suncoast would be a good choice

[hick]

Originally Posted by JBandit

I'd still buy mine. my boss and I did the math, and between his '78 f250, vs my '02 2500, I still save about $10 on a 200 mile trip considering the current fuel prices. Now...payment wise, I have considered a cummins, though a cummins swap in an OBS suburban or 2500/3500 has crossed my mind a bit...

Ha, crossed your mind... its about all i think about these days. Have looked into doing a SAS and cummins swap. I am young right now, and with the way things going, these cummins and older chevy bodies aren't going to around for much longer so i want to build some thing that i have every intention of keeping for my first kid to drive to school

Here is some thing for you to consider, and DMAX guys, take no offence. Cummins has earned there "million mile motor" rep for a reason. They have been running there engines in pickups for over a decade now. These engines were an amazing feet the first few that rolled off the line, by the time the late 90's rolled around and they switched to the 24v in 99... they had a pretty good idea of what they were doing

As for a duramax, amazing engines, don't dout that in the least. I drive 3 or 4 every summer for hauling bales and such around. When loaded up with 6 green feed bales (about 2-2.5k a piece) that durmax still puts yoru ass in the seat when you punch it. How ever, that same trailer behind my grandpa 99 dodge 24v.... when we take a hill the RPM's barley move... that duramax... **** i have never seen RPMS shot so high and a tranny drop so fast in my life... Duramax just hasn't been around long enough for me to get behind them fully... and 8k on injector scared me away as well.

Each truck comes with there pros and cons. Some thing i greatly dislike about the late 90's dodge is the incab noise. Yes i like the sound of a diesel engine and such... but after 4 hours of highway driving... i would like to be able to turn my radio down from max and just be able to hear my self think (this is fixxed with some simple sound deadening)

OBS chevy's.. i drive and 04 half ton... by far one of the msot comfortable interior ever put into to a truck, specially the buckets in the front.

From what my research has given me, the biggest difference between the 12V and 24V is alittle more computer stuff. every thing on the 12V was manual, and very simple. Mods the engine were simple. One thing i found as well, it is quite common for the 24V guys to swap there fuel pump for a 12V pump. in simple terms... the 12V in a sence was some thing you and some buddies could pull on a fridya afternoon after work, and have back in fixxed/modded by sunday after noon with time to spare with the kids. 24V take alittle more work because of the computer intergration. which isn't a bad thing... modding became" easier in the sense you could plug some thing in and change it... but if some thing went wrong.




thats just my buck and half worth of ramble

[Chevyman247]

Originally Posted by Swampperman

He couldn't afford it so he sold it then some kid in Jacksonville totaled it I guess but it was an auto. Yeah POR did the lidt for him. B Humps dodge badass my brother just finished his nissan on 2.5s hes out at austin meritt opnce in a blue moon and hopefully I'll start my own truck but it'll be for tugs more than mud. Whats your name? I'm Jarad Olson Im usually out where you live either working on a truck or at the mudhole but I've seen your truck around its nice.

I'm Tyler Robertson, I havent had time to go to palmers on sundays ever since I started fire school at lake tech, I am either working, studing or sleeping. Have you seen my truck with the new ground hawgs, so far they have been awesome. I dont drive into Leesburg much anymore since I go to lake tech mon-thurs and just drive through Yalaha. Mabey I will find time to make it over to the mud hole after I finish school at the end of this month. I bought my truck from a guy over in frutland park about 1 1/2 yr ago, the engine had 200,000+miles on it when I rebuilt it. Then just a few months back one of the 35" BFG ATs blew out doing 70mph and then I bought all new ground hawgs and a bodylift.

I used to go to high school with B Hump at LHS before I started the dual enrollment with lake tech.

[Swampperman]

Yeah I passed you last weekend, I was out a Dickersons house lifting Levi Burns ford.

[Chevyman247]

Originally Posted by Swampperman

Yeah I passed you last weekend, I was out a Dickersons house lifting Levi Burns ford.

I was probbably going to work at the okahumpka publix.

Wait, you mean that bad ass ford with 42s sitting in vactrons parking lot is levi burns? He used to own a chevy lifted on toyos. I guess he finaly sold it, I know Dickie, Levi, B Hump, Mark Day, Justin Bates and all them from school.

What is dickie doing nowadays?

[98chevy]

I own both. yeah the dodge is bullet proof and tiws really well but it also a piece of sh!t. It rides rough as hell the interior is falling apart. I dont like it but for what I use it for it works. And NO I wouldnt trade it for my dmax. I hardly ever drive the dodge anymore.

[justy]

If I knew it from the beginning. I would have kept my old LLY 04 duramax. It pulled everything I wanted and it got really good mileage. I didn't keep it long enough to have any injector problems. But all 80,000 miles I put on that one, that had to be my best truck. I don't know if I was towing with the wind or what. But coming back from Canada I was towing a atv trailer with 4 atv's and was getting 24 per gallon. Now my 07.5 LLM wouldn't get that if I pushed it down the highway. And I have to say it does have more power. But it's actually got more towing power then I'll ever need. But like I've been always saying, the 07.5 is going to get traded off for a 4.5L half-ton. I'm just hoping I can get mileage close to what my old 04 got, or better. Would be good.

[foreman00081]

Originally Posted by hick

and 8k on injector scared me away as well.

whoever told you its $8k for injectors is full of crap, you could buy a whole new engine for that...

[Tom S.]

Originally Posted by TexTahoe

Isn't 130+ hp a little much to be loosing through the drivetrain?

One would think so, but the way it was explained to me is that the Allison transmission and transfer case (I have 4x4) eat up a lot. The dyno measured hp at the rear wheels and didn't give a flywheel reading. That number is what the 'experts' gave me.

[foreman00081]

Originally Posted by Tom S.

One would think so, but the way it was explained to me is that the Allison transmission and transfer case (I have 4x4) eat up a lot. The dyno measured hp at the rear wheels and didn't give a flywheel reading. That number is what the 'experts' gave me.

hmm, id be questioning the he!! out of those "experts" cause 130HP loss is impossible, if that were the case then a stock LB7 would only be putting down 170HP! that wouldnt even get these big trucks moving let alone tow anything and we all know what they can do towing. from what i saw at our clubs dyno day was that an LBZ (4x4 also) on a stock tune with only intake and exhaust and PPE boost valve (which wouldnt do anything on the stock tune) put down around 340 HP at the wheels and they are rated for 360 at the flywheel. so take away the maybe 20HP that you would get from the intake and exhaust and your still at 320RWHP or so which is right around 15% drivetrain loss. 15% loss is what i was always told is about the right loss for most vehicles from the flywheel to the wheels. what kind of dyno was it? ours were done on a superflo.

[TexTahoe]

Well, as others have said i don't see how that could be accurate, but i guess #'s don't lie.

[Tom S.]

Originally Posted by foreman00081

what kind of dyno was it? ours were done on a superflo.

If you mean brand, I don't know - I never paid any attention to the brand - or if I did, I've forgoten. I'll look next time I'm there.

[STLCHEVYHD]

If I would have done the research initially about my truck, I would have never bought it because I would have been scared to death. I've already replaced the head gaskets. I think my FPRV is going bad and I'm waiting on my injectors to take a dump any day now that the warranty is up. It really makes it hard to enjoy your truck when you are always waiting for the other shoe to drop. Don't get me wrong, I love my truck and it puts the biggest damn smile on my face when that turbo kicks in and I'm hangin' on but I would have bought a newer one now that I know a lot more. I would rather have an 06 or 07 classic. My truck put down 288/500 stock at Danville with just 4" exhaust. I was up to 411/722 on Extreme at the end. They were scratching their heads on the stock numbers. Usually it's around 240 for an LB7.

[Tank]

Originally Posted by rob

is it worth it, or what?

I'm not reading the entire thread, but to answer your question, if you get the Dmax, get the PPE, by far the best on the market for the D. If you go Dmax you will need some tranny mods probably stage 2, and from what I've read even though the Cummins would have a manual behind it you would still need to beef that one up as well. The Duramax will be much more fun to drive and with the mods you listed will walk all over that 12v. The Cummins are easy to mod when it come to hard mods (physical parts) but the Dmax can make ungodly amounts of power especially with the PPE. You must also remember it takes approximately 150hp more for a comparable manual to run with an auto, maybe even more once the auto has been modified and retuned. Just make sure if you get a Dmax to look at an 03 or newer model.

[rob]

Originally Posted by Tank

I'm not reading the entire thread, but to answer your question, if you get the Dmax, get the PPE, by far the best on the market for the D. If you go Dmax you will need some tranny mods probably stage 2, and from what I've read even though the Cummins would have a manual behind it you would still need to beef that one up as well. The Duramax will be much more fun to drive and with the mods you listed will walk all over that 12v. The Cummins are easy to mod when it come to hard mods (physical parts) but the Dmax can make ungodly amounts of power especially with the PPE. You must also remember it takes approximately 150hp more for a comparable manual to run with an auto, maybe even more once the auto has been modified and retuned. Just make sure if you get a Dmax to look at an 03 or newer model.

thanks for your reply regarding my decision.

[Underpowered]

the cummins is one hell of a motor, but the truck they come in is not. i would own a cummins right, if they came in abetter truck. teh frone end literally falls apart on those dodges, and the automatics sucks.

i would say buy a D max. but, for a good deal i would go with a cummins. that is a hard choice to make.

[dozerboy]

Originally Posted by Tom S.

Umm, mine is nowhere near stock and puts out about 350hp at the rear wheels - which equates to around 480 at the flywheel. Do you happen to have a dyno sheet verifying this?

We don't want to mislead the folks here........

You can do a search on DP if you want to see some dyno sheets many have been posted. I have seen LBZ dyno from 280 to 320 stock and like foreman said you should be over 400. Dynos are tools really those #s don't mean much other then bragging rights.

[lotsofmud400]

This is the perfect thread for me because Ive been wanting to save my money up for a dmax...but they are so freakin expensive and i still got 4 years of school left. I was lookin online classified for some 12v cummins last night...couldnt find many with under 180k miles and all auto trannies. should be able to find a nice 12v under 10k right?

I guess the saying is your buying a cummins and getting stuck with a dodge

[dozerboy]

You have a nice truck do a conversion to a cummins