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Old 07-03-2008, 06:15 PM   #1
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whats the difference between knuckle full boy and cognito lifts
i've been trying to do some research on suspension lifts and I am seeing that there are differences in each type of lift but I am not sure what evry one of them is.


I am about to come into a **** load of overtime money in the next few weeks and plan to drop a few bills into my 04 sierra.

any info/pictures will help.
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Old 07-03-2008, 06:33 PM   #2
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Re: whats the difference between knuckle full boy and cognito lifts
spindle lifts make the front tires stick out more than the rear. bracket lifts are more professional and you have to notch the frame to put the drop brackets in and the front tires will match the rear. but the cost for a bracket lift over a spindle lift can be alot depending on the company you go with. i know the pro comp spindle lift is the lift that wont put the front tires out as much as the rest.
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Old 07-03-2008, 06:33 PM   #3
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Re: whats the difference between knuckle full boy and cognito lifts
I think you are asking what the difference between full drop and knuckle lift kits are?

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A full drop kit (sometimes wrongly called a bracket kit, this stems from the Superlift full drop kit being called a bracket kit) drops everything in the front end down the full amount. If the kit is a 6" kit, then that means the lower control arms, upper control arms, front differential, and steering are all dropped down 6". This gives you factory angles on the CV shafts.

A knuckle kit only drops the lower control arms the full 6". The upper arms are left in their stock locations, and the stock knuckles are replaced with 6" longer ones to bridge the gap between the upper and lower arms. The steering is usually left in the stock location, with the new knuckles having the slots for the tierod ends higher up. This eliminates the need to drop the steering. The front diff is only dropped between 4.5 and 5 inches depending on the kit. Since the diff is now 1 to 1.5 inches higher than the hubs on the spindles, the rest of the drop is made up in the CV shafts. I think this is where 2low4nd is getting the idea that knuckle kits are "crank kits" even though they are not.

If both kits are 6" kits, then both of them will have the same height with the torsion bars set at the factory spot. The knuckle kit will just have steeper CV shaft angles because the front diff is only dropped part of the way versus all the way on the full drop kit.

The benefits of the full drop kit are that you can crank higher if you choose to. The knuckle lift will hold alignment better because the upper control arms are still in the factory location and therefore use the factory alignment cams. Downfalls of the full drop kit is that it requires a new front driveshaft because of the angle put on the joint at the transfercase. Downfall of the knuckle kit is that you can not crank as high and some of them increase the front track width alot (the Fabtech kits pushes them out almost 2" per side).

The Cognito kit is a hybrid design. It uses knuckles so that you get the easier alignent and other benefits, bu tit also drops teh front diff the full amount so you have less stress on the CV shafts.
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Old 07-03-2008, 07:11 PM   #4
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Re: whats the difference between knuckle full boy and cognito lifts
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I think you are asking what the difference between full drop and knuckle lift kits are?



The Cognito kit is a hybrid design. It uses knuckles so that you get the easier alignent and other benefits, bu tit also drops teh front diff the full amount so you have less stress on the CV shafts.

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Old 07-04-2008, 08:53 AM   #5
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Re: whats the difference between knuckle full boy and cognito lifts
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I think you are asking what the difference between full drop and knuckle lift kits are?



The Cognito kit is a hybrid design. It uses knuckles so that you get the easier alignent and other benefits, bu tit also drops teh front diff the full amount so you have less stress on the CV shafts.


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Old 07-04-2008, 09:09 AM   #6
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Re: whats the difference between knuckle full boy and cognito lifts
Cognito for a Spindle lift or CST or Upper cntrol arm drop lift... Only two companies Id deal with they are top notch and have more options then most companies....
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