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Ford Keys & Torsion Bar Cranking/Replacing TECH**
This has been proven on the 88-06 1/2 Silverados (ford keys), and the 99 1500HD, 2500, and 2500HD, and it will work for a 3500 as well. DO NOT SEND ME A PM UNLESS U READ THIS WHOLE THING, IM TIRED OF GETTING PMS WHERE PEOPLE WERE TOO LAZY TO READ THIS.
***WARNING*** This procedure can be dangerous if not properly done. If using a 3/4 Truck, or 1 ton bars, I HIGHLY recommend using a GM torsion bar puller over the one shown here. The Staff, and Partners of Fullsizechevy.com are not responsible for your mistakes, and/or injuries that may occur while performing this procedure. Do not use the smaller version on the puller I use (5-ton) that thing has broken on a member here!!! Play at your own risk!!! ***WARNING*** **This thread is kind of big (pictures), so i am sorry to all you guys not using broadband. ****HIGH RESOLUTION PICTURES*** Okay, many of you guys have asked these questions at 1 time or another. So I figured I would help you members out. This is a tech article telling (showing) you how to crank, and/or replace torsion bars, as well as installing ford keys, and what they are. If you have questions, start asking, but don’t ask until you read this entire post to prevent double questions. On with the show.... ----------------------------------------------------------- For more reader friendly instructions, I color coded this as follows: Torsion Bar replacement Ford Key Install Torsion Bar Cranking ------------------------------------------------------------ When I actually took these pictures I was doing a ford key install, they are use the same information, and same tools. First of all, the all mighty torsion bar list: CHEVY TORSION BAR CODES AND RATINGS: 15048307-LH (code XK) (Max torque 4553) 15048308-RH (code XK) (Max torque 4553) 15048309-LH (code XL) (Max torque 4626) 15048310-RH (code XL) (Max torque 4626) 15712407-LH (code WX) (Max torque 4863) 15712408-RH (code WX) (Max torque 4863) 15048311-LH (code XM) (Max torque 5638) 15048312-RH (code XM) (Max torque 5638) 15058267-LH (code YH) (Max torque 5913) 15058268-RH (code YH) (Max torque 5913) 15712409-LH (code WY) (Max torque 5913) 15712410-RH (code WY) (Max torque 5913) 15528957-LH (code GG) (Max torque 6709) 15528958-RH (code GG) (Max torque 6709) 15712411-LH (code WZ) (Max torque 7267) 15712412-RH (code WZ) (Max torque 7267) 15528963-LH (code GK) (Max torque 8615) 15528964-RH (code GK) (Max torque 8615) 15528965-LH (code GL) (Max torque 8782) 15528966-RH (code GL) (Max torque 8782) 15732338-LH (code XG) (Max torque 9054) 15732339-RH (code XG) (Max torque 9054) 15528959-LH (code GH) (Max torque 7161) 15528960-RH (code GH) (Max torque 7161) ---------------------------------------------------- Here is the Ford key part number: *The parts are universal, u dont need one for the left and right... they are both the same. XL3Z5B328CA A good place to get them is Ford Parts Online **These keys work best on 1/2 tons For the 3/4 ton trucks and above use the "green key" or the 1/2 Chevy key. 15592573 you can get them from GM Parts Direct ---------------------------------------------------- TOOLS: Floor Jack: 7-ton Craftsman Puller: 18mm/20mm sockets, and a ratchet On with the install First of all I recommend using at least a 3-ton floor jack, and some wood for jacking the front end up. Jacking the front end off the ground, and letting the tires lift off the ground takes a lot of the stress off the torsion bars. This makes your job safer, and easier. At this time, you may want to throw some jack stands under it, I didn't because im stupid. It is somthing I recommend to someone doing this though. Now that your tires are not touching the ground, you can begin to unload your torsion bars! For those of you not familiar with the location of where to do this, here is the picture of the cross member: I circled the adjusting bolts. If you just want to crank your bars, then tighten these bolts with the 18mm socket, and try to drive it around every few turns. Or drop it down and up again with the jack, this helps it settle. You are done cranking your bars. Easy Huh? If your height changed more than a inch, go get it aligned Unloading the bars is a fairly simple procedure, the way I find to be easiest is to loosen the bolts until about a good inch is sticking out. Then place the puller on. The red circle is where a dimple is on the key, this is where u install the puller. (quadcab's picture) After you hand tighten this tool into the dimple, use your 18mm socket, and loosen the bolt. Avoid using your hands under the cross member, just in case the puller slips, and takes your hand off. Once you get the bolt out, now you must remove the thing that held the bolt in. Again, don’t use your hands for this Use your ratchet end and push it out through the other side Just FYI all the stress is now on the puller. I used a 20mm socket on the puller, it isn't a exact fit, but it works ![]() Start to loosen the puller bolt with your ratchet, until the puller becomes loose, as this point, you have unloaded a torsion bar, congrats! Now to remove the keys, you simply grab it like this: and shake the bar back and forth, if you have never done this, those bars are going to probably be harder to remove, try using a hammer to bang the bar around, and WD-40 never hurt Once the key falls, push your torsion bar out of the cross member. For changing out the bars, at this point, you completely remove the current bars, and load in your new ones, I recommend that the sticker end of the bar goes towards the back (as they came off) and make sure u pay attention to the L and R which indicate which side they should be installed on. After taking that into consideration. Just simply put your new bars in, slide them back through the cross member. Hold the key up so that it slides back in. (see pic below) There is really only 1 way to install that key, so don’t think your going to mess it up. Try to think back on how it came out how if your not sure how to reload the bars, read down as I will get to it in the key installation at this point, if u compare the 2 keys like so: You will see that at the same position, the ford key's bolt dimple is lower, thus twisting the bar more with less cranking Now just simply slide your new ford key into the cross member, and slide the torsion bar through it, this key will only install 1 way, so don’t think you are going to mess it up: Now if u look straight up through the cross member, try to center the key before continuing. To make noise a tad better, spray a small amount of WD40 or something similar in the loading/unloading dimple. (this isn’t necessary, I just had some noise from the metal twisting against each other from the puller, and it made a scary noise ) Now place to puller back on the cross member, and hand tighten. Now using the ratchet, and 20mm socket, tighten the bolt on the puller: Once you tighten it past the hole u removed the "bolt holder" from try placing it in there with pliers: It is okay if it doesn’t fit all the way yet, if it doesn't leave it kind of sitting there, this is kind of emergency back-up incase the puller breaks. Keep on tightening until it fits all the way through Again, avoid using those hands at this point insert the bolt, and using your 18mm socket, secure it against the key's adjusting bolt dimple. Now take off the puller. using the 20mm socket. You are now finished!!! Let your rig down, and take it for a test drive, it may drop a little after the test drive. If it does, then jack it back up, and tighten the adjusting bolts a few more turns, to get the look u prefer. Just know the more u crank, the more angle you will have, and the more chance you are going to have of breaking something ***ALIGNMENT IS REQUIRED*** This was my finished product: ![]()
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FAQ:
Q: That info you gave on the ford key and cranking the t-bars was great. Thanks. I have a question, when I want to the ford parts web site I entered the part # you gave and two parts came up and I wonder if you tell me which one I need. There was one for Expedition, Navigator 4wd '97-'02 AND F-150/250 4wd 97-04. If you can help me I'd really appreciate it. Thank you. A: It is the same part, it just goes on 2 different vechicals, it does not matter, they are one in the same ![]() Q: If I use heavier torsion bars, do I have to use heavier keys on my 1/2 ton? A: No, keep your 1/2 ton keys Q: Can I use ford keys with heavier torsion bars? A: Yes, put you will have steeper angles. Q: Should I use ford keys for my 2500HD? A: No, use the "green key" or the 1/2 Chevy key. 15592573 you can get them from GM Parts Direct Q: Can I use ford torsion bars? A: ![]() Q: Can't I use a C-clamp instead of a puller like you have? A: Yes, but I consider it to be more dangerous. Q: How much lift can I get out of ford keys? A: That really depends on your torsion bars, and how much you are willing to crank. It differs from .5" to 3" i personally only wanted to get my fender at 48.5" which is about 1.5" Q: Will the ford keys work on a 88-98 truck? A: Yes they will! We found this out after a brave member tried it successfully. Q: Will the "green keys" from the 1/2 tons work on the 88-98 heavy duty trucks? A: I think so, but I have never tired. Q: Do you have these pictures in a higher resolution? A: Yes, send me a e-mail to request them Click Here Q: How long does this install take? A: Depending on how careful you are, cranking takes about 5 minutes, and the keys/bars take about 30-90 minutes Q: Will my ride suffer? A: Yes, ignore it ![]() Q: If i am completely stock, how much can I crank before my shocks loose their travel? A: I am guessing about 1 inch, i wouldn't go over that or your ride will suffer, and you wont have any travel. Q: What torsion bars do I have? A: Read the tags under on the back of the bars then match them with the codes I have ![]() If u have any questions, or see something I did wrong, please post about it ![]()
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Well put
how many inches did ya gain?
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luke, how close are you to bottoming out on your bumpstops? please post pics of that and your angles. I put my keys in and turned the bolt all the way down and im close to binding my pass cv and im almost on my uca bumpstops. also how bad was your camber, mine is so bad that i dont want to drive it, how'dyou get it to the shop to align? I wander if mine has to do with me having GG 6700lb bars. I think im gonna have to take mine out which sucks a big one. ur truck looks good man.
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Re: FAQ
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Well, since you mention it... I get anal about safety procedures, and whenever I see a car jacked up and someone working under it, without jack stands, I get on my safety soapbox. One of your photos shows the front end jacked up with a floor jack and some blocks of wood, but there aren't any jack stands under the frame. Even though you could argue that if the jack slipped, the wheels are still on so the front end wouldn't fall enough to hurt someone underneath. But how far will it fall if the T-bars are out? Safety is a state of mind and you should always practice good, safe procedures. Sorry for being such an old worry-wart. Great info and pictures -- thanks!
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i didnt have any jackstands so i guess you can say my procedure was unsafe but i did use one trick, i tied a bungy strap to the puller so if it comes off under tension, the tension will be caught by the bungy strap and break the momentum
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i have one question my truck's susp is completely stock, will my shocks bottom im gonna do this because i dont want/cant afford a full on susp lift. if my shocks would bottom what kind should i go with? any that are just long enough to make it work? thanks and GREAT INFO this made me decide to gopher it haha... thanks again man lata
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Just a couple amendments you might want to consider based on my findings.
Torsion keys for all IFS years (88-03), are all the same, AFAIK (total of four colors and clockings). Torsion bars from earlier years (88-98) are rated and coded differently than later bars, yet will fit later models.
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u can prob get a inch without replacing any shocks ![]()
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Re: Re: FAQ
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i forgot my jackstands @ home when i did that. and if it did fall. even with no torsion bars, it still wouldnt have hit me ![]()
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oops i said bottom i meant top out.... id like to get a lil longer shock to help the ride cause ive got the t-bars almost maxed now and u can really ''feel'' the road haha... thanks lata
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Damn Luke...Im impressed....you did a great job on this
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Very good info. Luke2kZ71!!!
I was just curious about the different torsion bars and their ratings!! What is the usual bars on a stock Z71? How does this differ? Also, if you got different bars (ie 3/4 ton bars) instead of different keys, would that basicly do the same thing as far as height gain, and would it alleviate some of the harsher ride attributed to the ford keys? Thanks for the great info.!!Will
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I will sell you my old Rancho RSX shocks for the front, they would be perfect for you....heap cheap too ![]() |
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look under your truck, and the tags on the bars tell you what bars u have. and yes, they work just like ford keys they all do the same thing.
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Make this a sticky
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I is a sticky, i just moved it down for a few hours because people tend to ignore the top threads ....
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Is it a bad thing to lift your truck from the lift kit crossmember?
everyone has always said this can bend/buckle it ![]()
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it is plenty strong, and it yours bends, then i would consider a new kit. if the braces are that weak, imagine a traffic acident ![]()
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sorry i didnt see this one.... NBS trucks dont have a stock uca bump stop, only the lca (which catches upward travel) the SL keeps the stock stuff.... so i dont have to worry about that ;) thanks for the props |