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Old 08-31-2008, 09:21 PM   #201
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Re: 90 454SS vs 94 Lightning - TrucksTV

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I know they r expensive but i plan on keepin my truck so its gonna be a project, migth runa carb setup for now but once i have the $$$ i'll prolly end up swapping to the edelbrock mpfi setup
i was just on the whole gota switch to a carb kick, but you should do some research. the tbi itself isnt whats bad, its your crappy cam and heads that come on a tbi motor that sucks, no carb is going to fix that. the induction system of a tbi isnt what gives the tbi its bad name in having so little power, a carbed tbi motor is still a tbi motor, same crappy tbi heads, same wimpy cam...
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Old 08-31-2008, 09:29 PM   #202
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Re: 90 454SS vs 94 Lightning - TrucksTV

i saw the newest episode today...the 454 is going to look freakin awsome. I love the amount of drop they used and the wheel and tire combination...i'm thinkin about the same setup.
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Old 08-31-2008, 09:52 PM   #203
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I've got some pics of it........from a 454ss.com members photobucket.


















for those who don't know, they didn't race due to insurance reasons, but did drive down the track in a parade in memory of a 454ss member who had recently passed away.
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Old 08-31-2008, 09:57 PM   #204
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:00 PM   #205
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Re: 90 454SS vs 94 Lightning - TrucksTV

that lightening looks lame sitting next to the ss lol. that thing is looking REALLY nice. imo, no mater who wins, it really says something about the trucks that the lightening needed forced induction to compete with the 454 naturally aspirated... imagine if the 454 had a turbo! it wouldn't even be a competition.
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i was just on the whole gota switch to a carb kick, but you should do some research. the tbi itself isnt whats bad, its your crappy cam and heads that come on a tbi motor that sucks, no carb is going to fix that. the induction system of a tbi isnt what gives the tbi its bad name in having so little power, a carbed tbi motor is still a tbi motor, same crappy tbi heads, same wimpy cam...

I've got plans for a set of aluminum vortec heads, and comp cams top end kit, and i wanna get my block stroked out to a 383, i just want to swap to a carb setup so that i can do this stuff gradually rather than having to wait and get everything together at once and then get a chip burned, this way i can do the cam kit, tune the carb myself...etc

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...035010000&rd=1

383 stroker kit
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__SB-CHEVY-383-EAGLE-CRANK-RODS-SPEED-PRO-STROKER-KIT_W0QQitemZ320290295938QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ2 0PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2865QQcmdZViewItem ?hash=item320290295938&_trkparms=39%3A1|65%3A1|240 %3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

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[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__SBC-ALUMINUM-SB-CHEVY-CYLINDER-HEADS-VORTEC-RACE_W0QQitemZ380057761020QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ 20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2865QQcmdZViewIte m?hash=item380057761020&_trkparms=39%3A1|65%3A1|24 0%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245[url]
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:24 PM   #207
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800 for a cam? i did the math and doing a cam swap on my truck with everything that that kit had and all the gaskets and such and it ended up like 250$, this is all cheep summit brand stuff tho...
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that chevy looks sweet with the wheel and drop combo
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:55 PM   #209
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x2 whats the drop on the 454? i dont remeber them sayin on show other day
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Re: 90 454SS vs 94 Lightning - TrucksTV

they did a 3/4 and took out the overload spring. but it looked lower on the show. I think it would look better leveled but that's just me. They put caltracs on it and I think the bracket put about an inch lift back in it.
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that lightening looks lame sitting next to the ss lol.
I actually don't mind the look of those trucks when they're done right. I thought it looked pretty sharp.
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800 for a cam? i did the math and doing a cam swap on my truck with everything that that kit had and all the gaskets and such and it ended up like 250$, this is all cheep summit brand stuff tho...
I'll prolly go that route tryin to keep a low budget build lol, i just posted to show kinda what i was lookin for lol, I wish my truck was a 454ss lol, I like the stance of the 454ss but i'm kinda old school lol
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Re: 90 454SS vs 94 Lightning - TrucksTV

The 454ss decals they used are lame
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And whats up with no drag racing? No insurance? Thats ghey. Go to some track on a Friday night, pay your $15 and put a pass or 2 on each truck. At least get a timeslip for each truck for comparison. I'm choked that they didnt race each other.

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Anyone got a link to the new episodes?
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when do they dyno em
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You guys are probably going to give me a lot of grief for this but, isn't kind of embarrassing for chevy that it takes a 454 big block to compete with a 351 ford small block???
Just my opinion and you'll probably disagree.


You would be thinking right, I am a FORD guy.

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In five weeks. Episode 19.
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Arent they putting a turbo or something on it so it can mebbe keep up with the BBC
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You guys are probably going to give me a lot of grief for this but, isn't kind of embarrassing for chevy that it takes a 454 big block to compete with a 351 ford small block???
Just my opinion and you'll probably disagree.


You would be thinking right, I am a FORD guy.
considering that either truck would get their ass whipped by a V6 powered Syclone, I don't see your point I'm not even going to say anything about the 4.6 and 5.4s, the jokes make themselves about those boat anchors.
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