90 454SS vs 94 Lightning - TrucksTV

[454ss]

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...lightning.html

[Fast305]

Originally Posted by 1BadAction

LOL! you do realize that most of the guys running their piehole about the SS would be lucky to lay down 180rwhp. basic boltons, MPI intake, and full exhaust will have that truck saying to 99% of the trucks chevy has produced.

I layed down 181 RWHP/268 RWTQ on a Mustang Dyno with a stock head, stock cam 305 TBI.

Originally Posted by GreaseDog

you cant get a 5 lug 14SF in any other model but the 454 SS.

That is not true, they also came in fullsize vans. 3/4 tons with factory tow packages. Many had the 6.2 diesel.

[Fast305]

Originally Posted by Tristan

The non electronically controled ones are incredibly few and far in between, and I believe were only installed in diesel trucks, vans, and possibly motorhomes. The more popular 4L80E, with the stand alone controller being installed in the exact same vehicles makes the search difficult now 15 years after the fact.

There were no 4L80 transmissions lacking the electronic shifting parts. Otherwise they would be documented by GM for replacement parts.

You maybe thinking of the AT545 which is an Allison 4 spd transmission that was used behind alot of medium duty trucks, including P-series GM chassis.

[Superbeeblaze]

well part 2.

Sounded like the ole ss needed a TUNE! and I liked what they did with the lighning, curious to see how it runs.

[Red94Chev]

Here's the Lightning build via Youtube:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL_Pbq8n1AY
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEEBRIS01Og

Lots of cool stuff here. Conversion to MAF, turbo, etc. Running 5 psi will give roughly a 40-45% boost in power. The kit also comes with an electronic 5/7 psi boost valve, which will provide 60-65% more power with 7 psi. You do the math and that's 415 fwhp with 5 psi and 475 fwhp at 7 psi. A higher stall torque converter went in too.

On paper, Ford's got the Chevy beat in the power department at 7 psi boost. It's going to come down to which truck is going to hook up best.


Items I'd change on the Chevy at this point: higher stall converter and dual exhaust.

[GreaseDog]

Originally Posted by Red94Chev

The kit also comes with a 7 psi pulley

a turbo with a pulley huh?

[2500ak]

I wonder how that ford will stand up to boost. I'm fairly sure it will work, but one advantage the chevy has is that it has had many of its integral parts replaced, rather than being stuffed on horsepower life support. Basically, its not in as good of a condition comparativly, as the 454 is after being torn down and serviced.

[GreaseDog]

Originally Posted by 2500ak

I wonder how that ford will stand up to boost. I'm fairly sure it will work, but one advantage the chevy has is that it has had many of its integral parts replaced, rather than being stuffed on horsepower life support. Basically, its not in as good of a condition comparativly, as the 454 is after being torn down and serviced.

the 454 is a stock shortblock. piston rings and bore have what 130,000 mi on them? NOT a good way to build a performance truck.

Originally Posted by GreaseDog

the 454 is a stock shortblock. piston rings and bore have what 130,000 mi on them? NOT a good way to build a performance truck.

yea the ford is a POS too, i cant remember it having a full or partly rebuilt motor either..

[Superbeeblaze]

they dont give a damn, as long as it runs through the other few episodes they will be on...

If they blow it they will bring it on another episode and do a rebuild....

[GreaseDog]

i still wanna see info on this pulley for the turbo.

[chatttown423]

lol this is kinda a stupid question but what channel does this show come on and what time?

[Superbeeblaze]

spike tv, and they show the episodes on the weekends (sat and sunday) and around noonish each day. (shows the shows a few hours before and after that time. dunno exact time.

[chatttown423]

Originally Posted by Superbeeblaze

spike tv, and they show the episodes on the weekends (sat and sunday) and around noonish each day. (shows the shows a few hours before and after that time. dunno exact time.

edit: never mind the ques. but
thanks for the info though after watching those u tube vids im stuck on this.

[chatttown423]

well i just looked at my comcast schedule and i dont see the show. its ch 78 on comcast, right?

[dave89iroc]

Originally Posted by chatttown423

well i just looked at my comcast schedule and i dont see the show. its ch 78 on comcast, right?

57 on comcast up here

[chatttown423]

Originally Posted by dave89iroc

57 on comcast up here

damn i guess we dont get it down here because its not on the schedule

[Red94Chev]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3K-IM_vth0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBFvXlUor4Y

Darn it. I was hoping to hear of the outcome of the Trucks TV muscle trucks shootout this weekend. I thought that they were running head-to-head at the Sport Truck Shootout (http://www.454ss.com/EVENTS/2008/) in Kentucky on Saturday, but I guess they didn't drag the trucks. According to the 454SS.com forum, they didn't race due to legal/insurance issues.

[Chevy1500z71]

iv been watching trucks and they haven't played a new episode of the muscle truck challenge yet! im sick of watching all the gay projects they have. the show has sucked since Stacy David left but i was hoping the muscle truck challenge would make the show worth watching again... guess not...

boner kill.