11-19-2003, 06:54 PM
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A Moment In The Life
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Owasso, OK / Norman, OK
Age: 24
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Performance for a 97 V8 C1500
 Right now I have Flowmasters and an MSD 6A ignition. I would like to know what mods would help me the most. I'm on a tight budget. I've been thinking about pulleys or maybe a throttle body upgrade. I basically want to have a streetable and good performing naturally aspirated truck. Any suggestion of the route I should take to get more power out of my 5.7 Vortec 350? Thx!
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97 C1500 Ext. Cab 5.7L, MSD 6A and Blaster Coil using Super Conductor wires, Flowmaster American Thunder catback, Volant Intake. Amsoil 5w-30 synthetic oil, and Wester's 93 Hot Tune.
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11-19-2003, 07:17 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: HB, so cal
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intake, hypertech, electric fans, throttle body spacer(not a new throttle body), headers, pulleys, and thats allota money right there so i wont tax my brain thinking of more 
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16x8 AR bajas for sale. hub centric 6 lug
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11-19-2003, 10:49 PM
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I need money
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: NC
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westers (search it on here) = a lot of power right there. 
headers
intake
cheap stuff:
Helix Power Tower Spacer
Throttle body blade from CFM-tech
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11-19-2003, 11:40 PM
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A Moment In The Life
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Owasso, OK / Norman, OK
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Thx a lot guys! I'll probably get my engine custom tuned by Ed Wright's Fastchip Inc. (Tulsa, OK) because it's near where I live and it would be easy to get the program modified if necessary (20 min drive). He does customized programming much like Wester's. What do you think? Anyone had experience w/ Fastchips? I think that would probably provide the most noticable gain in performance. Also, I have a K&N filter right now, would a UPD intake be that much better and is it pretty easy to install a throttle body spacer? Which brand of tb spacer?
PS: I'm new to the forum and all the people here seem to be really friendly and helpful. You guys are great! 
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97 C1500 Ext. Cab 5.7L, MSD 6A and Blaster Coil using Super Conductor wires, Flowmaster American Thunder catback, Volant Intake. Amsoil 5w-30 synthetic oil, and Wester's 93 Hot Tune.
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11-20-2003, 01:32 AM
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formerly fordsmoker
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: houston,tx
Age: 27
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My truck is just ike yours and all of my mods are listed below in my sig.2 weeks ago I went to Navasota raceway which is 1/8mile and pulled a 9.72 at 75mph with wheel spin off the line.I will be goin back to hopefully run 9.6's give or teake.My engine also has 176,650 miles on it as of today and runs great and hard.
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11-20-2003, 04:42 PM
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I need money
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: NC
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^Get that wheelspin fixed. I ran a 9.9 stock in mine. I figure you should be in low 9s with all you have done.
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11-20-2003, 07:07 PM
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formerly fordsmoker
Join Date: Jan 2003
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JC,is your truck a std.cab or ext.cab?Also how did you run a 9.9 in the 1/8?Did you spin at all off the line?If not how in the world did you not spin?Also I have 3.90's with an eaton posi and I still have a hard time hookin up.Also what is your 0-60mph times JC?
Later fellas
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06 Crewcab 2wd 5.3 Wheatley tune using HPTuners,4.10,comp cam,Yank,longtubes,Heads and much more
TXvortec350 AKA Wheatley
03 Tahoe 5.3 Wheatley tune using HPTuners
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11-20-2003, 07:09 PM
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formerly fordsmoker
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Nevermind I just saw you have an ext.cab.Can you tell me the rest of the questions I asked.
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06 Crewcab 2wd 5.3 Wheatley tune using HPTuners,4.10,comp cam,Yank,longtubes,Heads and much more
TXvortec350 AKA Wheatley
03 Tahoe 5.3 Wheatley tune using HPTuners
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11-20-2003, 09:37 PM
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A Moment In The Life
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Owasso, OK / Norman, OK
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Thx for your input fordsmoker. Now, I just wanted to know if headers have a real advantage. I heard that you lose too much backpressure (low end torque). I was talking to the head tech at a custom exhaust shop and he said that headers were a waste on an EFI vehicle because the computer relies on the backpressure to make adjustments to airflow. Also, that the maintenence wasn't worth it (ie. replacing gaskets and tightening). This is also important because I don't really have to tools or want to have to replace gaskets and re torque the bolts regularly. Any thoughts?
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97 C1500 Ext. Cab 5.7L, MSD 6A and Blaster Coil using Super Conductor wires, Flowmaster American Thunder catback, Volant Intake. Amsoil 5w-30 synthetic oil, and Wester's 93 Hot Tune.
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11-20-2003, 10:53 PM
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formerly fordsmoker
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Well I dont care what the exhaust guy said,but hedders do make a difference in hp and tq.If you get some hedders all you have to do is buy some fel-pro gaskets at your nearest Oreillys and that will last you nearly forever.Also you can get some locking bolts for hedders from summit or jegs.They are not as complicating as that guy is tellin you.
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06 Crewcab 2wd 5.3 Wheatley tune using HPTuners,4.10,comp cam,Yank,longtubes,Heads and much more
TXvortec350 AKA Wheatley
03 Tahoe 5.3 Wheatley tune using HPTuners
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11-21-2003, 12:29 AM
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I love beer and women
Join Date: Sep 2003
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is a throttle body spacer easy to install i got a 96 sierra 5.7 v8
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Go Chiefs
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11-21-2003, 12:34 AM
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formerly fordsmoker
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Oh yeah,there is only three bolts that hold it down to the upper intake maniflod.Took me 10 minutes to do.
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06 Crewcab 2wd 5.3 Wheatley tune using HPTuners,4.10,comp cam,Yank,longtubes,Heads and much more
TXvortec350 AKA Wheatley
03 Tahoe 5.3 Wheatley tune using HPTuners
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11-21-2003, 05:15 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Bakersfield
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Best mods are Thorley Headers, and Ed Wright programming which is Fastchip ....not superchips. But when you do headers get full dual exhaust also. I gained over 20 hp at the wheels just by using a cutout when I had stock piping between my headers and catback 3" exhaust. I think I have the most N/A horsepower for a 96-99 Vortec truck, with stock fuel injection that I have heard of. (not trying to bragg....please chime in if otherwise) I have a throttle body spacer if you want it. You can fab up a very clean cold air intake for under $50 from a diesel shop, then just get headers, program, and full exhaust. Don't get shorty headers, they also give you shorty gains. Good luck!
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97 Silverado ECSB 383, ported vortec heads, LT4 Hot Cam Kit, Vmax Spacer, Ed Wright tuning, Thorley headers,Vig 2800 Converter, Duals w/ X-pipe and Magnaflows - 330.5 RWHP, 381.1 RWTQ unlocked w/ stock poppet injectors- 13.632 @ 98.94 w/ 1.90 60'
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11-21-2003, 06:22 AM
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formerly rcfast
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Fresno, california
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Quote:
Originally posted by vortec stroker
Best mods are Thorley Headers, and Ed Wright programming which is Fastchip ....not superchips. But when you do headers get full dual exhaust also. I gained over 20 hp at the wheels just by using a cutout when I had stock piping between my headers and catback 3" exhaust. I think I have the most N/A horsepower for a 96-99 Vortec truck, with stock fuel injection that I have heard of. (not trying to bragg....please chime in if otherwise) I have a throttle body spacer if you want it. You can fab up a very clean cold air intake for under $50 from a diesel shop, then just get headers, program, and full exhaust. Don't get shorty headers, they also give you shorty gains. Good luck!
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I have a couple questions for you...when u did the cutout where was it on the exhaust system...are you running o2 sims? and how did it affect your low end and where was your hp gained at..i have unboltede my exhaust before and it fealt like crap on the low end but fealt really good mid-top.... and i hope to be up on the hp n/a on my motor soon.. and did u install the cam yourself??
and where did u dyno your truck and do you have any 1/4 times?
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Trying to do thing's a l31 "could never do"
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11-21-2003, 12:48 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Little River, Texas
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Fordsmoker,
Can you tell me which Hedman headers are you using. I'm looking to put some on my 2000 OBS Z71 Tahoe with the 5.7. I'm haven't been able to find the right part number yet.
Thanks,
Jeff
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95 Formula 11.30@122 1.64 60ft
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11-21-2003, 05:48 PM
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formerly fordsmoker
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: houston,tx
Age: 27
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Thupy is your tahoe 2wd or 4wd?Also do you have air injection?I would asume you dont but I am asking just in case.Do you just want the shorty hedders like mine?
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06 Crewcab 2wd 5.3 Wheatley tune using HPTuners,4.10,comp cam,Yank,longtubes,Heads and much more
TXvortec350 AKA Wheatley
03 Tahoe 5.3 Wheatley tune using HPTuners
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11-21-2003, 05:53 PM
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formerly fordsmoker
Join Date: Jan 2003
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OK,if you want the ones I have which are the shoties,if you do not have air injection the part number is 69650,if you have air injection the part number is 69651.Without air it is only about 240.00,and it made a pretty big difference.
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06 Crewcab 2wd 5.3 Wheatley tune using HPTuners,4.10,comp cam,Yank,longtubes,Heads and much more
TXvortec350 AKA Wheatley
03 Tahoe 5.3 Wheatley tune using HPTuners
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11-21-2003, 06:14 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Little River, Texas
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It is 4WD. It doesn't have air injection. I'm trying to decide on shorty or long tubes. My major plans are UPD, LT1 cam, 1.5 roller rockers, headers, 2 1/2 duals with an x-pipe and Borla Xr1s. That is about the extent of the mods planned at the moment. I really just need the torque to tow the Formula at times. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Jeff
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11-21-2003, 06:28 PM
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A Moment In The Life
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Owasso, OK / Norman, OK
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Looks like for now I'm gonna get a UPD intake since I already have a K&N filter and I can get the FSC 10% discount. Anyone know if UPD plans on doing another group sale? Second, I'll put in a tb spacer. After that, I think I'll grab some Hooker ceramic coated headers w/ copper seals. I'd have to get them installed because I dont't really have the patience or tools to do the job easily...plus I'll need a new crossover pipe and cat welded in anyway. As for the dual muffler setup, I think I'm gonna have to go against it because I need low-end torque and horsepower to pull a 20 foot boat if necessary. What do you guys think? Thx for all your input.
PS: Can Anyone post some pics of a UPD install on a 97 5.7 engine? I'd appreciate it.
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97 C1500 Ext. Cab 5.7L, MSD 6A and Blaster Coil using Super Conductor wires, Flowmaster American Thunder catback, Volant Intake. Amsoil 5w-30 synthetic oil, and Wester's 93 Hot Tune.
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11-22-2003, 03:05 PM
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Shrt Rnd Lw 2 D Ground
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I have the UPD intake tube on my truck, I'll try to get a pic sometime today. You should be aware that you only get a tube that goes from your throttle body to the mass airflow sensor. If you have a throttle body spacer the parts that they send won't work correctly with it, you have to do some fabbing. Personally, I think I'd get the volant the next time.
Gerry
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