Flowtech Shortys vs. Summit Shorties

[89SilverBullet]

alrite... means i ahve a cracked exhasut manifold and not much really behind that im completly redoing my exhasut systehm

gonna go with shorty headers and dont want to spend much.
narrowed it down to
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Flowtech Shorty Emission legal headers which i can get for 202 thru summit.. or some summit racing shorty truck headers which go for 152

whihc is better? any one have either?

then after the headers, puttin on a brand new factory y-pipe i have sititn around, tghats gonn run into a Flowmaster Super 44 off-road series 3''inlet and 2.5 dual outlet, and the duals out the back.

so summit or flowtech?

[BlazinX]

I have teh Flowtechs, no complaints here.

[97gmcextcab]

I have had 3 sets of flowtechs, on 3 different trucks of course. Only thing I can suggest is different gaskets. All of them leaked bad until I changed them. I tightened them often but they just don't seem to be a great gasket.

[BackinBlack]

I had the Summit shorties on my 88 with no complaints. Good for the $$ imo.

[89SilverBullet]

well i went with flotechs.. and so far.. they are great..

totally nite and day from my old exhasut system.
whcih was manifolds were had a crack on one. the gaskets leaked, donuts were shot. flanges on the y-pipe were shot.. went into like a 2'' glass pack..

now i have no leaks.. and that flowmasters sound!

[goldlifter]

any numbers with the shorties?

[89SilverBullet]

no numbers.. just a big smile on my face...

noticed about 1-2 mpg better with the exhastu.. simply b/c i didnt really have anything before.. and im sure if i didnt use my heavy rite foot all the time i would see better....

notived a increase in excelleration... its a stop-light demon... took my buddy who has a 97 2500 w/ a 454.. took him at the lgiths.. and that truck is quick

[wolf396]

I bought the "summit" brand for my old 88 tbi 350 a few years ago and I remember them having a flow-tec emblem welded onto one of the tubes.

[justy]

summit headers are made by a company called pacesetter. There the biggest piece of junk headers I ever tried. Had nothing but egr valve problems. And no low end torque. Tires wouldn't chirp any more through the gears. The stock manifolds had a better sound then these things. You get alot of hesitation on take off.

[wolf396]

not the ones i had. they may have changed since i bought them (this was over 5 years ago).

[chevy 86]

is it correct that you wont get the FULL potential out of headers if you dont port your heads????

[2004RegencyRST]

honestly neither JBA shorties are the way to go if you're getting shorties i mean you can't beat the sound & performance...plus your getting your quality name & a quality part i hope your not just getting these based on their prices...if that's the situation then i would save up and go quality $650/pair JBA



but if i were forced to choose flowtech i suppose...i wouldn't ever go with the magazine brand

[chevy thunder]

I have the summit shorties(pacesetter).haven't had any problems with them, best part about them is how thick the flanges are no leaks even with the gaskets they sent with them.

[Biggreentank]

Are Edelbrock shorties any good? I have some for a TBI engine on ebay but I'm thinking about keeping them.

[GreaseDog]

Originally Posted by 97gmcextcab

I have had 3 sets of flowtechs, on 3 different trucks of course. Only thing I can suggest is different gaskets. All of them leaked bad until I changed them. I tightened them often but they just don't seem to be a great gasket.

Fel Pro exhaust manifold gaskets FTW. i dont buy header gaskets, and none of my trucks have/will have manifolds. started using the exhaust manifold gaskets a few years back, and havent had a bit of problem. been using Flowtech headers for a little over 10 years. the set i just put on my 94 a couple days ago was the FIRST set i've ever had to do anything to in order to get them to fit perfect. ended up dimpling 2 tubes on the passenger header just slightly for bolt clearance. i'd also recomend the 11504 headers from Flowtech, and the 11504Y y-pipe to go along with them. MUCH larger tube than your stocker, and not crimp bent. blows the stocker out of the water!

[GreaseDog]

Originally Posted by 2004RegencyRST

honestly neither JBA shorties are the way to go if you're getting shorties i mean you can't beat the sound & performance...plus your getting your quality name & a quality part i hope your not just getting these based on their prices...if that's the situation then i would save up and go quality $650/pair JBA



but if i were forced to choose flowtech i suppose...i wouldn't ever go with the magazine brand

big advertising, like JBA does in the truck mags, doesnt equal a superior product. like i said in my previous post, i've been running Flowtechs for years without issue. no sense in spending $350 on a set of headers just to restrict them with a stock y pipe. you can buy the Flowtech headers and the higher flowing Y pipe for $285. just doesnt financially make any sense.

as for buying Summit brand stuff... been doing that for years as well. i guarantee that EVERYTHING in the Summit catalog is available someplace else in that catalog with a different brand name on the box, and a higher price. Summit wont put their name on something that is a total piece of crap.

[TEE]

The Edelbrock TiTechs are great and hold up well......

[♠ FeliX ♠]

go with summit shorties

[Hammerdown]

I ordered summit shorties for my 93 350 silverado, a flowtech box of headers arrived. When I installed them, they fit easy and I painted them with the 1200 degree duplicolor and it never burned off. The problem was no gains and the collector leaked like a sieve where there was not much weld in between the four tubes, kind of a toss up on summits or flowtechs.

[GreaseDog]

Originally Posted by wolf396

I bought the "summit" brand for my old 88 tbi 350 a few years ago and I remember them having a flow-tec emblem welded onto one of the tubes.

interesting, none of my Flowtechs have ever had a Flowtech emblem welded to them anywhere. i've got 4 sets right now, and have probably had 6 or 7 other sets.