EPROM Tuning Software

[axisT6]

Originally Posted by stuckatcuse

I love this rush of 94-95 tuners! I need to get the apu1!!!

The APU1 fawkin rawks!!!!!!!

[LOWGREEN1]

Originally Posted by axisT6

The APU1 fawkin rawks!!!!!!!

You gonna make me want to go spend some serious cash... My wife will drive to Spring, TX and kick your butt if I spend that much cash... :kidding: Congrats..

[HaulnA$$]

Originally Posted by axisT6

The APU1 fawkin rawks!!!!!!!

Amen bruthuh! Had mine for about 6 months. It has saved me countless hours of time. Craigs new Ostrich is pretty cool too if you already have a PROM burner and ALDL cable.

[some1else]

OK maybe we could get a group buy going?

[LOWGREEN1]

Hey guys, when I'm trying to data log with tunerproRt do I need a .bin file loaded?? Or do I just need the adl file loaded and that's it? If so where can I find one for a BJYL?

[HaulnA$$]

Originally Posted by LOWGREEN1

Hey guys, when I'm trying to data log with tunerproRt do I need a .bin file loaded?? Or do I just need the adl file loaded and that's it? If so where can I find one for a BJYL?

I have most of the $0D .bins on the web but I dont have a copy of BJYL and BJYL is definetly $0D mask. I just uploaded a copy of BJYM to the Moates FTP site, should work perfect. There is also a couple of $0D .ecu files there as well. You can also find BJYL here ftp://ftp.diy-efi.org/pub/gmecm/bin_...%200E%2031/0D/ The changes from one broadcast code to the next are'nt worth worrying about. They are very very minor. I have never run TunerProRt without a .bin loaded so I am not sure about that but I don't see why you would need a .bin loaded. I also thought of one other thing to check to make the datalogging stuff work. In the Tools menu of TunerProRT in the Preferences tab, make sure you have the interface type in the ALDL tab set to "MAX232" instead of "AutoProm". HTH

[axisT6]

Originally Posted by LOWGREEN1

You gonna make me want to go spend some serious cash... My wife will drive to Spring, TX and kick your butt if I spend that much cash... :kidding: Congrats..

Dude, by looking at your truck, I can tell you have dumped way more then $400 into it(which is what I spent on the APU1, G1 Adapter with 2 chips, and USB card). Tell your wife I am sorry. I don't want her to come down here and me.

[LOWGREEN1]

Originally Posted by axisT6

Dude, by looking at your truck, I can tell you have dumped way more then $400 into it(which is what I spent on the APU1, G1 Adapter with 2 chips, and USB card). Tell your wife I am sorry. I don't want her to come down here and me.

True, but I knew what I was doing on the other things. I'm new to this and to go out and drop $400 on something a know nothing about yet, plus playing around with a brand new motor. She would kill me. Once my warranty runs out on the new motor, then I'm going to look into chip burning. But for now I just want to do some datalogging.

[LOWGREEN1]

Originally Posted by HaulnA$$

I have most of the $0D .bins on the web but I dont have a copy of BJYL and BJYL is definetly $0D mask. I just uploaded a copy of BJYM to the Moates FTP site, should work perfect. There is also a couple of $0D .ecu files there as well. You can also find BJYL here ftp://ftp.diy-efi.org/pub/gmecm/bin_...%200E%2031/0D/ The changes from one broadcast code to the next are'nt worth worrying about. They are very very minor. I have never run TunerProRt without a .bin loaded so I am not sure about that but I don't see why you would need a .bin loaded. I also thought of one other thing to check to make the datalogging stuff work. In the Tools menu of TunerProRT in the Preferences tab, make sure you have the interface type in the ALDL tab set to "MAX232" instead of "AutoProm". HTH

Thanks I will try that out. I'm waiting on another cable right now, but I will try it out as soon as I get my cable. I do have the interface type set to MAX232. After doing some reading over at thirdgen, I going to play with my wifes computer some more. I don't think I had everythig turned off that I was suppose to, and it was competing with the usb port on the computer. I'm not giving up on this, I will get this to work......

[95nProgress]

Does anybody have any Datamaster datalogs they want to share? I just want to see if they look very far off from mine. In particular the idle spark reading, does anybody elses jump around? Or do I have something going on with my ESC module? I have programmed my spark tables around my idle areas, loaded and un-loaded, for a constant 25.5 and it still jumps around. FYI my idle spark map and off idle maps are identical.

Thanks in advance

Brian

[HaulnA$$]

Originally Posted by 95nProgress

Does anybody have any Datamaster datalogs they want to share? I just want to see if they look very far off from mine. In particular the idle spark reading, does anybody elses jump around? Or do I have something going on with my ESC module? I have programmed my spark tables around my idle areas, loaded and un-loaded, for a constant 25.5 and it still jumps around. FYI my idle spark map and off idle maps are identical.

Thanks in advance

Brian

I dont have any web space so I can't post one here but I can e-mail it if you want. My Idle timing is rock solid but my engine is basically stock. I am going to assume that your timing table 5 Kpa above and at all Kpa's below where the engine idles and at 400, 600, and 800 at those same Kpa's are all set the same so that the table is flat at idle, below and slightly above. There are many factors that can make the timing "jump" at idle. The coolant spark table is one, the EGR spark table is another but from the .bin you sent me you've got that covered. Flattening the timing table all around idle should cure the jump. There are some other tables that are not broken out in TunerCat or TunerPro that may also affect an engine with a decent cam such as routines that will pull timing if the desired idle RPM cannot be maintained by the IAC motor but this usually symptomatic of a surging idle and from your datalog, this isn't happening. HTH

[Greenbuggy]

Just dropped some cash on a truck I don't even have running yet!

On my old '72 C10 I had retrofitted it with a TBI off of a 454 and made my own harness using a 1227747 ECM...

Well eventually I sold the engine out of it to a friend and parted out the rest...body was so rusty I didn't consider it a big loss, but I still kept the EFI harness for "someday" and that "someday" just came.

Found an Ochre and dark brown and moss colored '72 Cheyenne/20, 350, TH350, steel bed floor...overall not bad condition, a little rust in the rockers and cab corners but I can deal with that. Going to start by setting up the TBI on it again, but I bought some toys to spice up the power...

moates.net I bought the C1 flash and an Aries Zif socket cost me $21.85

www.xtronics.com I bought the Pocket Programmer II for $163 shipped

Ebay I bought an ALDL probe for $35

Basically my goal is to have 2 programs, one will be a "hellraiser" to go out and really suprise the hondas in the area, and the other will be an "economy" setting for the drive between my home and ames (a 520 mile round trip). The ALDL probe will be to datalog while in either mode and allow me to re-burn and make improvements.

[axisT6]

ITS HERE!!!!!
I got my APU1 Auto Prom Package from Moates along with G1 adapter and chips. SWEEEEEEET!!!!!

HaulnA$$, did you get a TunerPro RT CD with yours, it did you have to get it offline?

[some1else]

Originally Posted by axisT6

ITS HERE!!!!!
I got my APU1 Auto Prom Package from Moates along with G1 adapter and chips. SWEEEEEEET!!!!!

HaulnA$$, did you get a TunerPro RT CD with yours, it did you have to get it offline?

I'm jealous!

[axisT6]

Hey don't be jealous, I still have to figure out how to work all this stuff.

[HaulnA$$]

Originally Posted by axisT6

ITS HERE!!!!!
I got my APU1 Auto Prom Package from Moates along with G1 adapter and chips. SWEEEEEEET!!!!!

HaulnA$$, did you get a TunerPro RT CD with yours, it did you have to get it offline?

I did not get a TunerPro CD with my APU1 but I did get a registration code. I downloaded TunerProRT from the website. I think their thinking is that you may or may not run TunerProRT with the unit as it is also compatible with TunerCatRT so why send a CD. When I got my APU1 there was no .ecu or .ads definitions to be able to use TunerProRT with the $0D mask until myself and a couple of other ambitious nuts developed them. I used TunerCatRT and Datamaster exclusively for the first couple of months until the definitions were finished (well not totally, but usable). Happy tuning! As I have said before, PROM tuning can be very addicting. Don't say I did'nt warn you. LOL

[axisT6]

Originally Posted by HaulnA$$

No problem. I have a definition (.ecu) for the $0D mask and an ALDL datastream definition (.ads) file as well as others if you want copies to try out TunerPro. TunerProRT has a built in scanner/datalogger and was designed for use with the AutoProm realtime emulator (which I use) to emulate/datalog simultaneously, but it will work as a standalone datalogger with a standard ALDL cable. Nice to be able to datalog and edit .bin's with one program, and the best part is it is free.
As for the Edelbrock MPFI, I agree it is not worth the money. You can do better just tuning your stock TBI setup. When I first started Prom tuning, I gained 35 RWHP and a much crisper throttle response and 3 MPG increase from a stock 350 TBI by doing nothing but Prom tuning. JMHO

Will the $0D work with a 305? Also, would you care if I could get .ecu and .ads from you. Better yet, I what else do I need to do? I have the hardware, and I have TunerProRT downloaded. What other files/definitions do I need in order to start datalogging/burning for 95 Chevy 305 TBI with 4L60-E tranny?? Thanks.

[HaulnA$$]

Originally Posted by axisT6

Will the $0D work with a 305? Also, would you care if I could get .ecu and .ads from you. Better yet, I what else do I need to do? I have the hardware, and I have TunerProRT downloaded. What other files/definitions do I need in order to start datalogging/burning for 95 Chevy 305 TBI with 4L60-E tranny?? Thanks.

Yes it will work with the 305. The definitions are public. Go to http://www.moates.net/fileman/index....%20Definitions and download 0D v1_02.zip . This is the .ecu file. Then go to http://www.moates.net/fileman/index....%20Definitions and download 0D A217 Engine v1_0.zip . This is the .ads file for the engine data. The .ads file will have to be modified to work. In the ALDL dump command, change the 57 to 56. Everything else is good and this file is very complete. There is no transmission data .ads yet but it is on my list of things to do. When I finish it I will post it and upload it to share. These are the only files you need to get going. HTH

[axisT6]

Originally Posted by HaulnA$$

Yes it will work with the 305. The definitions are public. Go to http://www.moates.net/fileman/index....%20Definitions and download 0D v1_02.zip . This is the .ecu file. Then go to http://www.moates.net/fileman/index....%20Definitions and download 0D A217 Engine v1_0.zip . This is the .ads file for the engine data. The .ads file will have to be modified to work. In the ALDL dump command, change the 57 to 56. Everything else is good and this file is very complete. There is no transmission data .ads yet but it is on my list of things to do. When I finish it I will post it and upload it to share. These are the only files you need to get going. HTH

HaulnA$$ you rock! Thanks. In fact, I thank everyone on this thread who have answered my questions, and responded to my emails. That includes HaulnA$$, Badburban, and 95nProgress. Thanks for not being stingy, and sharing this info. Go DIY!!!!

[LOWGREEN1]

Hey guys, while I'm waiting on my other ALDL cable to come in, I thought I would ask a few questions. First off, what OS systems are you guys running on your computers. I have heard alot of people have trouble with windows XP not to mention the add trouble of usb. Which is what's on my laptop. I thought about going here http://moates.net/gmecm/software.html and downloading the 98 OS on a boot disk. If I do this and run it on my laptop, it's not going to mess up anything on my (wife's teaching) laptop, is it? I thought about buying an older laptop, but if I can get this one to work I see no need.