04-22-2008, 11:06 PM
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Importance of a proper tune.
Just want to show you'll how important a proper tune can be, especially when working with a OBDI vehicle running speed density. This is a TPI Vortec 305 built up some, but none the less, I picked up over 30 RWHP from fine tweaking on the dyno. I started out at 322 RWHP @ 4,700 from tuning without the dyno. My biggest power gain surprisingly was changing the WOT air/fuel ratio from the mid 12 down to 11.6:1. E10 does some weird things to the Air Fuel Ratio and engine wants. WOT TCC lockup was worth 9 HP, but I lost 8 ft/lbs in the process. Messing with the timing resulted in power loss, so I left it the way I had it.
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1983 G20 Conversion Van, 383 TPI, 10.5:1 compression, Custom Reed Roller cam, Ported 906 Vortecs, Doug Thorley Tri-Y headers, dual 2 1/2" exhaust, 4L60E, 3.08 gears. 7427 PCM in MPFI Mode
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04-23-2008, 12:36 AM
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Re: Importance of a proper tune.
Wow! As usual, very impressive results for a 305. Just curious, which lower intake do you have mated up to the vortec heads to allow TPI?
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04-23-2008, 12:39 AM
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Re: Importance of a proper tune.
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Originally Posted by jim_in_dorris
Wow! As usual, very impressive results for a 305. Just curious, which lower intake do you have mated up to the vortec heads to allow TPI?
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I have one of the ones that SDC chevy sold a while back. I believe it was cast by edelbrock before they started casting their own.
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1983 G20 Conversion Van, 383 TPI, 10.5:1 compression, Custom Reed Roller cam, Ported 906 Vortecs, Doug Thorley Tri-Y headers, dual 2 1/2" exhaust, 4L60E, 3.08 gears. 7427 PCM in MPFI Mode
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04-23-2008, 03:27 PM
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loves Mickie James
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Re: Importance of a proper tune.
Pretty diligent but its no 4.8 liter.
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04-23-2008, 05:11 PM
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Re: Importance of a proper tune.
thats damn stout for the lil engine! interesting about TCC lockup... the dyno really is a nice tool for fine tuning/finalizing things... especially when you are at optimal performance that the engine can make.
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04-23-2008, 05:18 PM
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loves Mickie James
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Re: Importance of a proper tune.
FWIW I've noticed the same thing with my converter. Stock it commands torque converter clutch lockup at 75 mph at WOT. When mine locks it drops the rpms by about 3-400 and it actually accelerates faster. If you have a good converter I imagine the effect would be the opposite but mines a loose slopping pile of crap.
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1999 NBS Silverdo - Phoenix Gold 6.5" components no amp stock HU
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04-24-2008, 06:19 AM
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Re: Importance of a proper tune.
Excellent torqueband & impressive peak numbers. Looks like if you had a little more time with the dyno you could get rid of those AFR fluctuations as well. Makes sense having to lower the ratio for the ethanol. Curious, what size valves are you running in those heads?
BTW, what gear were you pulling these runs on & did you have the converter locked up from the start? If not when did you engage it?
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04-24-2008, 07:38 AM
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Re: Importance of a proper tune.
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Originally Posted by MSlewis
Excellent torqueband & impressive peak numbers. Looks like if you had a little more time with the dyno you could get rid of those AFR fluctuations as well. Makes sense having to lower the ratio for the ethanol. Curious, what size valves are you running in those heads?
BTW, what gear were you pulling these runs on & did you have the converter locked up from the start? If not when did you engage it?
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Werd on the size valves in the heads.
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04-24-2008, 09:59 AM
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Re: Importance of a proper tune.
ya how do you have yours to do that do you jsut set the force tcc lock ..to lovk the converter from the get go like really low mph...or what do you do?
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04-24-2008, 10:35 AM
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Re: Importance of a proper tune.
Crap, that's some pretty fine darn numbers for a 305.
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04-25-2008, 07:33 PM
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loves Mickie James
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Re: Importance of a proper tune.
They are CNC ported 305 vortec castings with 1.94 intake valves and 1.6 exhaust.
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05-23-2008, 11:10 PM
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Re: Importance of a proper tune.
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1983 G20 Conversion Van, 383 TPI, 10.5:1 compression, Custom Reed Roller cam, Ported 906 Vortecs, Doug Thorley Tri-Y headers, dual 2 1/2" exhaust, 4L60E, 3.08 gears. 7427 PCM in MPFI Mode
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