The York Thread.

[Low88]

Hmm, after getting tired of seeing millions of threads with miscellanious questions about yorks, im going to compile what i know about it in this thread. Please feel free to add your input, and i hope that making this thread stops people from asking random questions that could be answered from searching. So here are some FAQ's that I will answer as best as I can. Again, please feel free to put your input and experiences in, as i only speak from mine.

Where Can I Find a York Compressor?

Here is a list of Cars:

Quite a bit of Pre 1984 Volvo's had a York 210. This is your best bet.
List of Volvo's with Yorks can be found here.

Other Cars include (stole this list from my roommate who posted it on SSM):

1963-1968 AMERICAN MOTORS AMBASSADOR
1964-1968 AMERICAN MOTORS AMERICAN
1963-1966 AMERICAN MOTORS CLASSIC
1965-1967 AMERICAN MOTORS MARLIN
1967-1968 AMERICAN MOTORS REBEL
1980-1984 AUDI 4000 5 Cylinder 2.2
1984 AUDI 4000S QUATTRO 5 Cylinder 2.2
1987 AUDI COUPE 5 Cylinder 2.3
1981-1987 AUDI COUPE 5 Cylinder 2.2
1964 FORD CUSTOM
1967 FORD CUSTOM 8 Cylinder
1968 FORD CUSTOM 8 Cylinder 6.4
1968-1969 FORD CUSTOM 8 Cylinder 5.0
1968-1969 FORD CUSTOM 8 Cylinder 7.0
1968 FORD CUSTOM 500 8 Cylinder 4.7
1968 FORD CUSTOM 500 8 Cylinder 6.4
1968-1969 FORD CUSTOM 500 8 Cylinder 5.0
1968-1969 FORD CUSTOM 500 8 Cylinder 7.0
1969 FORD FAIRLANE 8 Cylinder 5.8
1958-1970 FORD FAIRLANE
1965-1967 FORD FAIRLANE 8 Cylinder 4.7
1966-1969 FORD FAIRLANE 8 Cylinder 6.4
1968-1969 FORD FAIRLANE 8 Cylinder 5.0
1968-1969 FORD FAIRLANE 8 Cylinder 7.0
1967 FORD FALCON 6 Cylinder 2.8
1967 FORD FALCON 6 Cylinder 3.3
1963-1970 FORD FALCON
1965-1968 FORD FALCON 8 Cylinder 4.7
1968-1970 FORD FALCON 8 Cylinder 5.0
1967 FORD GALAXIE 8 Cylinder
1963-1964 FORD GALAXIE 8 Cylinder
1968 FORD GALAXIE 500 8 Cylinder 6.4
1968-1969 FORD GALAXIE 500 8 Cylinder 5.0
1968-1969 FORD GALAXIE 500 8 Cylinder 7.0
1967 FORD LTD 8 Cylinder
1968 FORD LTD 8 Cylinder 4.7
1968 FORD LTD 8 Cylinder 6.4
1968-1969 FORD LTD 8 Cylinder 5.0
1968-1969 FORD LTD 8 Cylinder 7.0
1970 FORD MAVERICK
1967-1970 FORD MUSTANG
1963 FORD THUNDERBIRD 8 Cylinder 6.7
1963-1968 FORD THUNDERBIRD 8 Cylinder 6.4
1963-1968 FORD THUNDERBIRD 8 Cylinder 7.0
1965-1968 FORD LIGHT TRUCK E SERIES
1963-1969 FORD LIGHT TRUCK F SERIES
1973-1978 INTERNATIONAL SCOUT II 4 Cylinder 3.2
1973-1978 INTERNATIONAL SCOUT II 8 Cylinder 5.0
1975-1978 INTERNATIONAL SCOUT II 8 Cylinder 5.6
1976-1978 INTERNATIONAL SCOUT II 8 Cylinder 5.7
1968 LINCOLN CONTINENTAL 8 Cylinder 7.5
1963-1965 LINCOLN CONTINENTAL 8 Cylinder 7.0
1966-1968 LINCOLN CONTINENTAL 8 Cylinder 7.6
1960-1965 MERCEDES-BENZ 220 6 Cylinder 2.2
1969 MERCEDES-BENZ 230 6 Cylinder 2.3
1969-1970 MERCEDES-BENZ 250 6 Cylinder 2.5
1973-1976 MERCEDES-BENZ 280 6 Cylinder 2.7
1969-1973 MERCEDES-BENZ 220D 4 Cylinder 2.2
1960-1965 MERCEDES-BENZ 220S 6 Cylinder 2.2
1960-1965 MERCEDES-BENZ 220SE 6 Cylinder 2.2
1969 MERCEDES-BENZ 230S 6 Cylinder 2.3
1969 MERCEDES-BENZ 230SL 6 Cylinder 2.3
1970-1972 MERCEDES-BENZ 250C 6 Cylinder 2.8
1966-1967 MERCEDES-BENZ 250S 6 Cylinder 2.5
1966-1967 MERCEDES-BENZ 250SE 6 Cylinder 2.5
1967 MERCEDES-BENZ 250SL 6 Cylinder 2.5
1973-1976 MERCEDES-BENZ 280C 6 Cylinder 2.7
1978-1979 MERCEDES-BENZ 280CE 6 Cylinder 2.7
1969-1971 MERCEDES-BENZ 280S 6 Cylinder 2.8
1975-1976 MERCEDES-BENZ 280S 6 Cylinder 2.7
1977 MERCEDES-BENZ 280SE 6 Cylinder 2.7
1969-1972 MERCEDES-BENZ 280SE 6 Cylinder 2.8
1969-1971 MERCEDES-BENZ 280SEL 6 Cylinder 2.8
1969-1971 MERCEDES-BENZ 280SL 6 Cylinder 2.8
1961-1966 MERCEDES-BENZ 300SE 6 Cylinder 3.0
1963-1965 MERCEDES-BENZ 300SEL 6 Cylinder 3.0
1967 MERCURY COMET 8 Cylinder 6.4
1975 MERCURY COMET 8 Cylinder
1963-1969 MERCURY COMET 6 Cylinder
1964-1967 MERCURY COMET 8 Cylinder 4.7
1968-1969 MERCURY COMET 8 Cylinder
1968 MERCURY COUGAR 6 Cylinder
1967-1969 MERCURY COUGAR 8 Cylinder
1968 MERCURY MONTEGO
1969 MERCURY MONTEGO 6 Cylinder 4.1
1969 MERCURY MONTEGO 8 Cylinder 5.0
1969 MERCURY MONTEGO 8 Cylinder 5.8
1986-1988 VOLKSWAGEN QUANTUM 5 Cylinder 2.2

Where else can I get a york compressor?
You can get a new or remanufactured compressor from Autozone (tell the clerk you need an AC compressor for one of the above applications)
You can also get one from Kilby Enterprises at www.onboardair.com. Expect to pay $100 without clutches for a york new/remanufactured, and do not pay over 50-60 with clutches from a boneyard. My friend got mine for $23 from a junkyard in daytona beach, and shipped it to me for $10. Total investment = $33

[Low88]

I have my compressor, now what do I need to get it mounted and in place?

Brackets:

You need to mount this thing somehow. Decide weather you want to run it off your alternator, in your serpentine belt rotation, or anywhere else (i have seen driveshaft, but not the best idea, lol).
Depeding on what you drive, you may or may not be in luck. Onboard Air and Air Ride Technologies sell brackets for popular applications. Mine was a 1988 4.3L OBS with a 4 groove serpentine setup. There were no
premanufactured brackets for my application, so i was forced to make my own. Remember when making your own brackets, that this thing needs to be solid! I cannot emphisize that enough. When this thing is pumping, there is some serious vibration.

Clutches:

You need to get the proper clutch set for your compressor. You need to decide how you will mount it, and that determines what clutches you will need.
If you want to run your york in your serpentine belt rotation, you will need a serpentine clutch . I have a V-belt clutch on my york, because i run
a Kilby Combo Pully


I have my york mounted, how do i plumb it?

You need to get some way of converting the rotolock thread flanges to NPT so you can run standard fittings off of it. The easiest way to do this is to order these flanges from onboardair. There are also flanges that screw over the exsisting rotolock thread.


Stainless Braided Line:
You NEED ATLEAST 3ft of stainless braided line coming off of the flanges. The air coming out of a york is very hot, and the stainless line helps dissapate the heat. I got 3 ft of stainless line from www.mcmaster.com. Cost = $36.
You can get the stainless line from ART, but i do not know the link.

Check Valve
The air coming out of a york is pressurized... duh. To prevent that pressure from coming back and blowing your york up, you need a check valve. You can get check valves just about anywhere. Try larry @ innovative or jason @ suicidedoors.


Fittings and other crap
I then run a compression fitting to run my DOT air line off of my check valve. This line then goes into a water trap, which goes into your air tank.
You also need an intake filter, because like anything else with a machined surface inside, you need to filter the air before it gets in.




Misc Crap to know about yorks


They spew alot of oil.
Because you are converting what once was a closed system into a open system, oil needs to escape somewhere. There are a few options, you can do the Oil Mod, or you can get an oil seperating unit from onboardair.com.
Read that Oil Mod link, as it is very informative.

Oil and maintence
Because of the oil escaping, you need the oil your compressor. I use 30W non-detergent oil, and a kilby dipstick to check to make sure it is full. A full compressor takes around 14 ounces of oil, and the kilby dipstick has a mark in it for every ounce of oil in the compressor.

Wiring
You wire your compressor is easy. With anything electrical, there are a few ways of doing it. I prefer mine to be manual, so i can control what RPM's my compressor comes on at, so i just wired a fuse inbetween the clutch wire and a switch that I use to turn the compressor on and off.
You can also use a pressure switch if you prefer, but make sure you use a relay. Do not hack wiring.




Here are some of the links that i used to help me with my setup:

http://www.geocities.com/spencerhut/truck/air.htm
http://www.universityofjeep.ca/oba_install_paul.html
http://moose.ca/~slowzuki/slowzuki/t...omp/OilFix.htm
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/york_lube.html
http://www.ccicompressor.com/SrvcManl.htm
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/body/york/
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...art1/york2.htm


Hope this thread helps... Add anything you feel necessary.

[joakwin]

when u order fittings from onboardair, make sure to ask for the o-rings or else they won't ship the o-rings for the fittings, and the o-rings are free but just need to ask for them


i have pictures on my sd site of a tbi with a 210 york ran in the stock place under the hood of the a/c system

my truck is a non-a/c truck from the factory

[Kruznlow69]

great thread for a sticky.. just keep as posts regarding the yorks and setup/conversion to on board air.
mine is a custom bracket we made, uses a 210 and v-belt clutch, the tentioner pulley is jsut a regular idler pulley that is pushed down in a slot. i use the overdrive kilby combo pulley and top rotolock/tube-o fittings from on board air. i also swapped my 105 amp alt to the large case 140 amp which requires a new rear bracket (oe part for trucks with the 140 amp oe alt) to be installed ($5 from gm dealership)
here are some pics..

custom bracket

setup unmounted

setup installed

[Low88]

Yeah, i was thinking this thread would help some people out, but the way it fell to the bottom in about .2 seconds had me disapointed.... sucks when like 90 backspacing threads gets more attention than this. **** it........

[Jonnyonwheels]

Great post, really needs to be a sticky!! I was wondering though, if you're running one of the mini-yorks like a 209 or even a 206 rather than a 210...does the oil fix mod still apply? But only if the compressor came from an a/c setup and wasn't built for on-board air (airride or to run tools) right?

[Low88]

Originally Posted by Jonnyonwheels

Great post, really needs to be a sticky!! I was wondering though, if you're running one of the mini-yorks like a 209 or even a 206 rather than a 210...does the oil fix mod still apply? But only if the compressor came from an a/c setup and wasn't built for on-board air (airride or to run tools) right?

Even if you buy one for onboardair, they were all built with AC as their intended purpose. It is not reccomended to do the oil mod to a brand new york compressor, so i would break it in for a while, and then do it.

As for the mini yorks, i know you can do it on the 209, but not so sure of the 206.

[toostock]

awesome write up!

[joakwin]

i run those campbell oil/water serps, they work great for me, they cost about $20 bucks or so at walmart or home depot-lowes have them in the tool sections,
3/8's ports on it
i run mine at 200psi daily and its been fine so far, i run 2 of them inline with each other


peace

[Kruznlow69]

just looked back and found some old threads that may be helpfull. whe ni get some free time i will go back through them and pick out the good parts..

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...ad.php?t=91011
http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...d.php?t=148711
http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...d.php?t=103590
http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...d.php?t=105899

[dante81_98]

i vote for this to be a sticky.

[Jonnyonwheels]

Another sticky vote here!! Great info!!!

[Dukemaster]

yea thanks for the info on the york 210. Im think about installing one when i get my truck bagged this spring.

[ChopandDrop]

This is why I frequent FSC so much. People like Low88 really help pave the way for people who need help with customizing!! Great job.......sticky this.

[dapolice1]

sticky

[Dukemaster]

I was looking into those steel braided lines and I had a brain storm. When I got my compressor it still had that high low lines on it. My dad was telling me that if I cut the crimped band around the hose he said it would be barbed underneath it. So I hacked those off an what do you know they are. So now im in the process of getting one recrimped with new high temp hose and one end NPT fitting. Its a lot cheaper than buying all of those adaptors and steel braided lines.

[Low88]

yup, NAPA and other places will crimp hoses for you.

[Toolman]

You can also try the places that make or repair hydrolic(sp) hoses. There are a few in Honolulu that do it. I sometimes see the trucks on the freeway going to jobsites to repair equiptment.

[Kruznlow69]

yup had united auto supply make me a hydro hose to go from up front to my tank.. 1/2 NPT swivel fittings.. 210 degree temp regular flow, 250 degree ten minute burst. dont think i will need a leader hose, cant believe that york will be over 200 degrees.. will it?

[Low88]

Originally Posted by Kruznlow69

yup had united auto supply make me a hydro hose to go from up front to my tank.. 1/2 NPT swivel fittings.. 210 degree temp regular flow, 250 degree ten minute burst. dont think i will need a leader hose, cant believe that york will be over 200 degrees.. will it?

You might be suprised. I dont know exact numbers of how hot it gets, but it is up there.