is this a deal? york with clutch

[Kruznlow69]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=24536963 97

just a thought.... didnt know if the york 10" is the same as the 210, would be goin onto a vortec 5.7 with A/C.

[ur2hi]

if they are new it's a pretty good deal. you can get a 210 at autozone for $85. the local junkyard sells the clutches for $20 with warranty. so you can get cheaper but thats not a bad price for new

[joakwin]

i got my 210 from a junkyard for 30 with the v-belt clutch with a 4 dollar core charge

and im ordering my brackets from onbaordair.com today as soon as they open up
i paid $99 for a serpentine clutch

[Kruznlow69]

hmm. never even thought to call, i have cost accounts at the parts houses... doesn't the air commander use the 9 or 209? with my vortec i dont want a lot of hastle so i would rather use those pre fab air commander brackets? dont know that i will save myself much money though. only thing i thought is that i will have local parts if i need to replace???

what york model # should i search for? (united auto supply) said he sees about 40 yorks and they mostly all start with a 488-(dash)***** 5 digit # any ideas?

[ur2hi]

ask for the compressor out of a 81 ford f100. that will be the 210. the air commander now uses the york 209 from what i hear. they actually used to buy there brackets from onboardair. you will save a few hundred dollars by piecing it together. i wish the brackets werent $175 though. i should have mine in a few months. trying to find a cheaper oil removal filter($75 from onboardair)

[joakwin]

the oil/water filter im gonna run on mine
i got it from lows, i think the brand is campbell or something like that, wut ever that brand wall mart has thats blue

it has 3/8 ports and say 250psi max and it was $30

i ordered my brackets and fittings from onboardair on wednesday
i should have them in by next week

i ordered ke-4000 $35 for non-a/c sbc truck, the other kit for the chevy is alot
and since i have a non-a/c truck i can just install the york their and i should have about the same power as a a/c truck
and the 1/2 fittings $25 and
i asked for new oil ring seals and
they gave them free to me

they just said that they are free but u have to ask for them or u won't get them

and i got a dipstick for the york $5

i paid $75 shipped ups ground

i still need to get a leader hose and the new belt thats a few inches longer

also i sold my stock v-belt clutch for $30 on ebay
so when im done getting it set up
im looking at around $250-350 witch isn't to bad

[thecodeman]

This is a great thread to save some money! keep us updated.

[ReadyMix]

The York 10 is the same as the 210. Just described in a differnet way.
I would like to know how you are going to attach the 210 to your vortec. The air commander brackets will not work since they are designed for the 206 short compressor. If you figure it out let me know so i can rip off you design and get mine to fit

[Kruznlow69]

does anyone make a bracket for the york 210 for a vortec 5.7? custom fabbing one shouldn't be too bad, looked at the online description from easy street... http://airliftcompany.com/easystreet/ezindexframe.htm but this if for the 209 not the 210, i would assume we all want the output of the 210???

hmm i would rather just buy a braket for it but i should be able to fab sumpin up just as easy.. would it be best to run a v-belt and special alternator pulley? or really get creative and make if fit perfect for the serp belt?

[ReadyMix]

I called AirLift a few months ago about the kit and they told me it was a York 206. If it is in fact a 209 then changing the bracket to fit a 210 would be easy.

[joakwin]

doesn't the 209 and the 210 have the same bolt pattern on the side of the case?

i had a 209 and a 210 sitting next to each other last may and the height was the same if i remember right

[Sweet Tea Man]

Originally posted by thecodeman
This is a great thread to save some money! keep us updated.

[ReadyMix]

The difference in the bolt pattern is weather or not it is the SC or HD model. They make 206, 9, 10 HD's but the Air Commander used to use the SC206. SC= Super Compact, HD= Heavy Duty.

As long as the York they are using is a HD version then any HD version will bolt up.

[sparkark]

I talked to a guy @ onboardair and I could have sworn that he told me that they were developing a bracket kit for the vortec motors to mount a 210 York?.?

[Kruznlow69]

Originally posted by sparkark
I talked to a guy @ onboardair and I could have sworn that he told me that they were developing a bracket kit for the vortec motors to mount a 210 York?.?

you would think that someone has to have made sumpin by now.. for the time i'll spend dinking around welding and cutting scraps from the shop i'd like to see if there is a bracket kit made to save time..

to the guys with the kits, is it more reliable or ??? to have a second v rib belt from alt to the compressor? or just put it line with the serp belt?

Originally posted by bbrennan
The difference in the bolt pattern is weather or not it is the SC or HD model. They make 206, 9, 10 HD's but the Air Commander used to use the SC206. SC= Super Compact, HD= Heavy Duty.

As long as the York they are using is a HD version then any HD version will bolt up.

anyone have more info on this? are all york 210's HD's?

[ReadyMix]

There is only one version of the 210. The Super-Compact ("Mini") Models are only the sc206 and sc209. That is where the problem lies with thier bracket kit. It is made for the SC206 which wil also work with the SC209.....but wil not work with and Standard or HD models 206, 209 or 210. The bolt pattern and size of the compressor is completly different.

[Kruznlow69]

ok so the super compact models are (right click, new window)
http://www.onboardair.com/pdf/5.pdf

the reg and HD models are (right click, new window)
http://www.onboardair.com/pdf/4.pdf

so comparing the super compact (SC) is just about an inch narrower between the bolt hole sides and overall height is about 1" shorter than the (HD)..

other shell difference with the (SC) is the 3 vs. 4 bolt holes on the (HD)

last thing i noticed is the clutch mounting holes are spaced diff, (HD) is 4.562" x 3.396" the (SC) is 4" x 3.125"


(HD) + (SC) depths are the same.....

anyone see any others differneces?, from the install pics on easy street's site... http://airliftcompany.com/easystreet...540(26910).pdf it looks like there should be room? (idler pulley not shown, placement in figure 8)

now i do think a v-belt routing would be best (pull belt if emergency on the road) a serp belt would mean dinking around with lengths and in emergency not finding a common belt at a shop?

we would need an adjuster for a v-belt though to tighten it up though.. might help out the bearing in the alt by pulling opposite of the serp belt?

if we use/order/buy the new alt pulley, will it make a difference in spinning slower? (alternator-small(2") pump clutch-bigger (6") vs. just using a larger serp belt and moving the york back a bit to match the serp belt system?

LASTLY*** for us DO IT YOURSELFers if we are making our own brackets, it would be better to use the 210 vs a sc209 if we have the space, correct?

[ReadyMix]

Yeah. the 210 would be better as it moves more air at a lower RPM. I have a welder and torches and all that stuff. Now i am trying to find a HD210 for around $1 at the bone yard. Just so that i have the size and dimensions. Whenever i get the bracket design down i will offer the plans here and might even build a few for the people that don't have the correct tools.

[Kruznlow69]

Originally posted by bbrennan
Yeah. the 210 would be better as it moves more air at a lower RPM. I have a welder and torches and all that stuff. Now i am trying to find a HD210 for around $1 at the bone yard. Just so that i have the size and dimensions. Whenever i get the bracket design down i will offer the plans here and might even build a few for the people that don't have the correct tools.

thats kinda what was goin through my mind as well, so what are you thinking, since we would have to fab up our own brackets, would it be best to just use a longer serp belt? would it even work? save money from buying the different pulley for the alt, gonna do some more research..

[ReadyMix]

I will use a V belt because it will be easier. My plan is to weld another pully to the currect alt. pully for better underdrive. That way teh 210 will put out more air at idle. Mine will be for off road and air tool use so i will never have it on while driving.